Would they say that about a man?

[BigDaddy44]

Okay, I'll go ahead and say it. This is ridiculous. She lost. Its over. Its done. Yet she refuses to admit it and capitulate.

So what do her defenders say? "Why do you all hate her? Give her time. She's been running for over a year. This has been tough on her. She needs her time and space to figure out what she's going to do."

WHHHAAAATTT????? She was running for President of the United States. Not prom queen. Not Class President. Politics is for the big boys (and girls).... sorry Hillary. I have neither the time or the inclination to let you "get in touch with your feelings as you try to figure out what this means to you."

So back to the title of this thread. Lets say Hillary's name was Joe Jones. Would anyone honestly be sitting around waiting for Joe Jones to "deal with the shattering of a life long dream?" Hell no. We'd be telling him to take it like a man and get in line and realize his day in the sun is over."

There you go. Flame away. But I've had it.

[WeDidIt]

1. If Joe Jones had done this

there would be many epithets thrown his way.

Seriously.

Joe Jones would eb the laughingstock of the world.

[roguevalley]

31. Since all the other nine exited with grace, they wouldn't. Only the

'girl' is acting like a stupid ass. too bad. makes us all look bad.

[Darth_Kitten]

40. Right,and when a man behaves "badly" do ALL men look bad?

:eyes:

No, of course not, different gender, different rules.
Nothing wrong with female ambition. Would you tell a male contender he should have gotten out? No.

[ExPatLeftist]

43. If it was mathematically impossible for him to win since late March...

You bet I would tell teh man to get out of the race - for the good of the party.

The notion that telling her to make way for the person that WILL be the nominee is "sexist" is patently ridiculous, and you have nothing to back it up.

[Darth_Kitten]

46. Read my post again.

n/t

[ExPatLeftist]

48. That is ALWAYS your reply, and your posts contain nothing but drivel even on the second reading

You are obviously a troll because you just post some BS accusations and then when called on it, you simply say, "read my post again"... Well, same baseless bitter shit is there as last time.

You seriously need to study logic and debate, because you make an ass of yourself here every day.

[dsomuah]

51. Didn't they tell Huckabee??

When Huckabee got to the point where it was all but a mathemtical certainty that he wasn't going to win. Before McCain clinched the nomination, people urged him to get out, and told him he was hurting the party by not getting out, and mocked him for saying "I majored in miracles not math"

Apparently we DO tell male contenders to get out.

[Terran]

57. Don't be absurd

"Would you tell a male contender he should have gotten out? No."

Hell yes I would have, given the same circumstances. What foolishness.

[reflection]

58. That's what I've always gleaned from your posts. n/t

[sazemisery]

2. Hillary, please put on your big girl panties and

CONCEDE!

[Pisces]

13. lol!! THey can be red as a sign of defiance.

[BlooInBloo]

3. There's likely some "why are all of you boys picking on the girl?" going on....

Hard to say how much, though.


EDIT: That's why Clinton supporters hate female Obama supporters - it destroys the narrative I mentioned.

[Independent-Voter]

7. Exactly. My wife, mom, and sister can't stand HRC's whining, and have all donated the max to Obama.

[Darth_Kitten]

37. Really, where was this imagined whining?

Maybe your wife, mom, and sister should make their political decisions based on facts, not pettiness.

[Independent-Voter]

50. Please. You're being willfully ignorant if you haven't noticed Veruca's stamping of feet.

I'm half-expecting her to hold a presser, so she can stand in the corner, stomp her feet, and hold her breath until Obama has enough pity on her sorry ass to give her some token ambassadorship.

About time for you to get on the train. It's leaving the station.

[Darth_Kitten]

39. Honestly, you take a fantasized idea, and run with it.

Maybe Clinton supporters hate female Obama supporters (LOL) because insecure women who are always trying desperately to please the men in their lives are really rather grating. :sarcasm:

There, happy now?

[Jersey Devil]

4. Jebus, she's had 3 months to prepare for this

It's not like she was winning until just before the final whistle. Even her campaign says she was thinking about veep a few months ago.

She was the one who said she was ready to hit the ground running as president on day one. Now she needs email advice from voters on what to do next?

[cags]

5. I think he'd be forgotten by now... but certain people consider it a hobby to knock on Hill

She out of the picture now no matter what she does... Just get over it and focus on your guy... Unless you just can't control the urge to pay Hillary more attention

[BigDaddy44]

10. Its hurting the party, thats why

There are millions of rabid HRC supports waiting for a cue from their leader. If she stood up and said "Obama's the man", they'd turn and support him on a dime. Instead, now they're just ripe to be picked off.

McCain's going to be like the lounge lizard in an old folk's home, seducing all the 70 and 80 year old female Hillary supporters.

[cags]

17. Anyone who could be picked off by McCain... deserves McCain as a president

[melody]

19. It may well happen, because Hillary is campaigning against Obama and for McCain

If McCain wins, it will be the fault of one person -- Hillary Clinton.

[cags]

21. She is not, and if McCain wins it will be the democrats fault for picking the wrong nominee

[melody]

26. The people still vociferously opposing Obama and supporting Hillary aren't Democrats

They're just GOP in sheep's clothing.

[BigDaddy44]

29. I wouldn't call them GOP in sheep's clothing

I WILL however call them cultists.

[melody]

30. If they don't vote Democrat, they might as well vote GOP

They're doing their work for them.

[LanternWaste]

36. we're the ones hurting the party

"Its hurting the party, thats why"

I think we're the ones hurting the party. We're the ones polluting the discourse. We're the ones that can't read an entire thread without someone denigrating one of the candidates-- regarldess of what the thread is about.

We're the ones acting in a divisive and counterproductive manner. We're the ones sniping at each other. We're the ones prognosticating a loss for the party if our sacred cow candiates gets punctured. We're the ones insulting the candidates and each other.

We're the ones hurting the party-- putting the responsibility of that at someone else's feet is weak... at best. But I do realize that laying the blame elsewhere allows us to justify absolution to ourselves...

[Liberal Veteran]

11. The problem is that her obstinacy is preventing this from moving on.

It's over. She will not be the nominee.

All this threatening to divide the party and holding off on making a decision (one that has already been made) is bullshit.

And the Clintons are playing us for suckers by not gracefully exiting the stage.

[cags]

15. Not if you don't keep feeding into it... The worst thing you could do to Hill is ignore her

[guruoo]

24. So quit giving her publicity, will ya?.

"We have an election to win and it isn't against Hillary Clinton."

[roguevalley]

33. poor hillary. see? this is politics and you can't be a woos.

[DevonRex]

6. I'm with you. I've had it, too. nt

[EFerrari]

8. That's the problem a lot of women have with Clinton.

She's supposed to be a strong, independent fighter and yet, she's always pulling this cr@p. You can't sign up to be a feminist role model and then sunfish along the way.

[americanstranger]

9. Ya pegged it, BigDaddy.

Those same people that claim Obama got special treatment in the primary have all turned on a dime and now tell us that they're unhappy that Clinton is not getting special treatment at the end of the primary.

The true magic of living in Hillaryland is that it makes double standards disappear.

- as

[gblady]

12. thanks...

for echoing the thoughts that have been going through my head all morning....
I am an Obama supporter of the "typical Hillary demographic"...older, feminist...
but...if this were a male candidate, it would be over, PERIOD!

[keep_it_real]

14. When Huckabee lost he hung around forever

And I support Obama.

[JVS]

25. And was A) soundly mocked for it, and B) able to seriously argue that he represented...

a distinct ideological faction of his party (the religious right)

[BigDaddy44]

28. Actually, no

As soon as he was mathematically eliminated, he formally quit. HRC has been mathematically eliminated. But we have to wait "until she comes to grip with it"

[Tatiana]

16. Yep. This campaign continues to play the SEXISM CARD. n/t

[Darth_Kitten]

44. Yawn........

There, there.......

[melody]

18. Exactly -- she needs to suck it up and accept the will of the people

If she doesn't from here, then she isn't on our side at all.

[DeschutesRiver]

20. No, they wouldn't

I don't recall them saying this about Al Gore. And Hillary has known the numbers for WEEKS, so there has been plenty of time to reflect and prepare.

She is embarassing the f**k out of me, as an old independent retired woman lawyer. Suck it up, you legend-in-your-own-mind, I am sick to death of your lack of fortitude. Just shut up about "what does Hillary want" - what freaking laughingstock she is turning into right now.

[tulsakatz]

22. well, plus this has been coming for a few months now........

..so you gotta wonder why she needs so much time to absorb the shock!!

True, she didn't believe it but that was her choice...there was still time to see it coming. Any reasonable person would have realized by now that she might not get to be President......

[PaulaFarrell]

23. It's just Clinton

Picture any other woman in the same position and there would not be the same tolerance. I guess it's due to her having been first lady or whatever - in spite of the US being a so-called democracy, people still tend to treat presidents and their families as some kind of royalty, and I think that's what's going on here, nothing explicitly to do with her being a woman.

[Window]

27. No flames here. I'm in complete agreement. Hillary has no respect for Obama...none.

Even while she was throwing her kitchen sink, he was gracious and gentlemanly and continues to be so to this day. She knows (and he knows) he cannot attack her because she would cry SEXISM and/or REVERSE RACISM. Yet, she can say and do anything she wants.

:banghead:

[WA98296]

32. I'm a woman and I agree. A man would not have been afforded such latitude. It does

the women's movement no good.

[Darth_Kitten]

42. LOL.......a man wouldn't have been criticized to this extent......

Women given latitude, where? Get real.

The women's movement is really not suffering, dear. Not that you really seem to care anyways. Gee, lots of men around this world with insufferable attitudes towards women, are they harming the "men's" movement? :eyes:

[Hugabear]

52. That is absolute BULLSHIT and you know it

Remember when Mike Huckabee refused to bow out of the GOP race long after everyone else knew it was a lost cause? Remember how much ridicule he received?

[krkaufman]

34. Most importantly, in my view, is that Tuesday night's circumstances were not unexpected.

She'd had since February 5th to begin realizing that her campaign approach had failed, and everyone has long known that Obama would win the majority of pledged delegates and then, at some point, overall delegates.

But, thankfully, it may be coming to an end on Saturday; though the nature of the "end" is certainly an open question.

[Darth_Kitten]

35. Oh, your life is only too tragic.......

No, Hillary wasn't running for Prom Queen, but then again Obama wasn't running for fraternity president either?

Again, the U.S. has to get OVER it's hatred of strong, ambitious women. It's becoming a world wide joke.

[greguganus]

41. She acted strong for votes. Then she cried for votes. Cybil Clinton. n/t

[Darth_Kitten]

45. Sybil?

:eyes:

[ExPatLeftist]

47. Actually, Hillary Clinton is becoming the world-wide joke.

I have heard this view on Hillary Clinton from people in many countries, and no one has said anything approaching your tripe about "hatred of strong, ambitious women".

Tell me, since when do you speak for the entire world? And do you have any evidence about this accusation?

Thought not.

[Orsino]

38. I don't know what exactly's been going on in the Clinton campaign...

...so I won't judge too harshly, I hope. But she's known for months that she might have to concede, and shouldn't still have to be planning her exit now. Whatever's occurring at this moment, I suspect that it's negotiation with the Obama camp over some point or other.

[seaglass]

49. How long after John Edwards last loss did he take to suspend

his campaign? How many were jumping down his ass to hurry up and get out?

[Hugabear]

53. If it were John Edwards instead of Hillary in this position, he'd be getting the same treatment

But it's not, and we're talking about Hillary, so enough with the hypotheticals.

[chascarrillo]

54. He dropped out less than 24 hours later.

The Florida primary was Jan 29. He suspended his campaign on Jan 30.

[seaglass]

55. If you were an Edwards supporter you know his real loss was

on 1/26 in South Carolina.

[chascarrillo]

56. No argument here. So, when was Clinton's real loss?