B.S. Hillary bloggers now claiming they have a transcript of Michelle's so-called Whitey comments.

[mythyc]

http://hillbuzz.blogspot.com/2008/06/whats-on-michelle-obama-rant-tape.html

What's on the Michelle Obama Rant Tape?

Here's what's known so far:

The Michelle Obama Rant Tape was filmed between June 26th - July 1st 2004 in Chicago, IL at the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition Conference at Trinity United Church: specifically the Women's Event.

Michelle Obama appeared as a panelist alongside Mrs. Khadijah Farrakhan and Mrs. James Meeks.

Bill Clinton spoke during the Conference, as did Bill Cosby and other speakers, but not at the panel Michelle attended.

Michelle Obama spoke at the Women's Event, but referenced Bill Clinton in her rant --- his presence at the conference was the impetus for her raving, it seems.

For about 30 minutes, Michelle Obama launched into a rant about the evils of America, and how America is to blame for the problems of Africa. Michelle personally blamed President Clinton for the deaths of millions of Africans and said America is responsible for the genocide of the Tutsis and other ethnic groups. She then launched into an attack on "whitey", and talked about solutions to black on black crime in the realm of diverting those actions onto white America. Her rant was fueled by the crowd: they reacted strongly to what she said, so she got more passionate and enraged, and that's when she completely loses it and says things that have made the mouths drop of everyone who's seen this.

The "tape" is a DVD that Trinity United sold on its website, and possibly offered free for download up until March 2008 when Trinity's site was scrubbed and the DVDs were no longer offered for sale.

This outburst happened just one month before the 2004 Democratic Convention, when Barack Obama delivered the keynote address.

UPDATED: It seems really easy for Chicago local media, especially, to determine whether or not this is the right tape of Michelle Obama. All they need to do is pull the tape from this 2004 Conference (particularly the panel Michelle was on), which should be readily available (since this was a very large multi-day event). All a journalist needs to do is watch this tape: if this is not the right one, they'd know immediately and this issue would be debunked. But, logically, this seems to be the most likely source of the tape people have been talking about at NoQuarterUSA.net

love that update at the end. All you gotta do is go pull the tape. Hillary would have done this looooooong ago had she been able.

I'm posting a couple comments on debunking this. It blows me away how much Larry Johnson and his chump brigade have so much information but so little grounds to put it on....

Comment by Blue Intrigue | 2008-06-04 12:05:47

Funny how nobody is picking up on the fact that this event was NOT at Trinity United Church and that there WAS NO panel - just Rev. Jackson’s speech.

Here’s the evolution of the story and you can go back through Larry’s posts to confirm this:

First, it was Michelle Obama speaking from the pulpit at TU; then it was Michelle and Louis Farrakan together at Trinity United; then it was Michelle appearing on a panel with Farrakan’s wife.

First, it was a tape controlled by Karl Rove; now it’s a DVD that apparently anybody can buy from TU’s website, even though TU had nothing to do with the Rainbow/PUSH conference.

Oh, and for good measure let’s smear an 82 year old civil rights activist in the process and play a guilt-by-association game by showing a pic of Michelle with Mrs. Farrakan that also happens to include a black female POW. Anybody who still believes this tape exists needs a course in remedial logic.

Comment by TheTruth | 2008-06-04 09:03:03Exactly

The story has basically been like this…NoQuarters posts something then HillBuzz posts something referencing the NoQuarters post and then NoQuarters posts something referencing the HillBuzz post. It is becoming a huge circular reference with no “facts” or “evidence”. All you have are two bloggers carrying a rumor for something that should be easy to find out. It was a massive public event that had a former President there. There has to be some recording of it at some media outlet in Chicago.

I understand that people here either support Hillary or dislike Obama but at some point don’t you think it is more productive to spend time reporting on stuff that will actually help your cause instead of chasing your tails looking for boogiemen that don’t exist??

[Windy]

1. the media and the obama campaign need to continue to ignore this NUT

His claims are frankly libelous.

He has lost all credibility. You notice that he is not on any television shows as a commentator anymore.

Despicable.

[davepc]

2. Meanwhile...Freeptards wait with baited breath for something that doesn't exist.

[vaberella]

9. Yup. someone on FoxNews said it was coming out Today.

The NQ people say GE. Roger Stone said it was the Clintono people who have the tape. I don't know who has it if it even exists.

[NorthernSpy]

17. (bated)

With bated breath = while holding ones breath.


With baited breath reminds me of the time this woman insisted on striking up a conversation with me while her mouth was visibly full of chewed up sardines. You could smell them, too. They stayed in her mouth like a chaw of tobacco, only bigger. It was like talking to a bait bucket.


:puke:


/vocab fascist

[TheDebbieDee]

3. Everybody knows that a transcript is like a verbal contract...........

It's not worth the paper it's written on! :rofl:

[thewiseguy]

4. They keep changing their story

If this video was available on the church website then a good number of individuals must have it.

[vaberella]

11. Yup, especially since the Church scandal would have taken care of that

Not to mention if Bill Clinton was there, this was news worthy and any media hound would have it in their archives not just one. And if this is one month before his Senate thing, that would have been a scandal all over Chicago---it doesn't make sense to me.

[vaberella]

5. Wait so if this tape happened one month before his Senate thing...

Why didn't it run during that time and taking him off and creating a complete scandal. Chicago is not made up of ONLY AA people. I think I sense non-sense. And the even they talk about wasn't it July 6, 2004 or so? Tons of people would be there, Bill would be in the room when she made her talk, this was public. Why wasn't it talked about?

[virtualobserver]

10. the very notion that she would say something like that in a public event is so incredibly absurd

[ErinBerin84]

6. oh my god. Now it's kind of getting funny (not that whisper campaigns are funny)

but now the new addition is that she is talking about Bill Clinton? I'm sorry, anyone who believes this is fucking stupid. I'm embarassed for them.

[hokies4ever]

13. FOX News has been pushing this recently

and they look pathetic because of it. :rofl:

[rebel with a cause]

59. They should have came to my university in 2000

and hear the professors talk about Clinton and his lack of action in Africa. Man it was bad. I had thought he was doing okay until then. So, even it I don't believe Michelle did this it would not upset me if she did, because I have heard white people say these same things. :shrug:

edited and unedited :D

[Arrowhead2k1]

7. More desperate nonsense from a bunch of desperate supporters.

Nothing to see here, unless you need a good laugh.

[anonymous171]

8. CIA Larry knows how to start whisper campaigns. Don't even bother talking about it.

[Raksha]

47. Not so long ago, during the Plame investigation,

I considered Larry Johnson a credible source, and linked to his website more than once. Too bad he seems determined to destroy his own credibility like this.

[davepc]

12. This is all shaping up to be BS the more and more comes out.

http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2008_06_01-2008_06_07.shtml#1212598400

Trying to debunk the internet rumors about Michelle Obama.— As many of you know, there has been an ever-shifting intenet rumor launched publicly by an extremely unreliable pro-Clinton blogger, Larry Johnson, that there is a video recording of Michelle Obama saying some intemperate things at Trinity United Church. The way that this story is being spread leads me to think that there is little or nothing to the rumors, which is why I haven’t posted on the issue here until now.

Until today, the rumors have been too vague to be debunked, but they have now become specific enough that the currently most prominent version of the rumor could potentially be determined to be false. A specific conference for the remarks has been specified: the 2004 Rainbow/PUSH Coalition Annual Conference starting on June 26, 2004.

In an attempt to get the information necessary to put this matter to bed, I drove over to the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition National Headquarters, which is in the opposite corner of my Hyde-Park/Kenwood neighborhood. I spoke with Robert (Bobby) Lewis, Director of Studio Services, who apparently handles the recordings of events. He said that the recording of events from 2005 and earlier was farmed out and most or all of the existing recordings (listed on the website) had not been conveyed in-house to the National Headquarters. He said that he did not know if the organization had a recording of the 2004 conference. In response to my more specific question, he said that the one-hour Saturday broadcasts on the 2004 Annual Conference (June 26, 2004, and July 2, 2004), which are listed on the website for purchase, are not available, since they come from the earlier outsourced period.

I was very surprised when he informed me that I was the first person to have contacted them about this matter. Given the furor on the internet, I suspect that many of you are skeptical about this claim, but he really seemed in the dark. He wanted to know the name of the website that had the story about the conference. And at first, he thought I was talking about an event where Barack, not Michelle, had appeared. In manner, he was gracious and he didn’t seem to be particularly guarded or defensive.

As I write this, I am aware that it seems unlikely that Barack Obama’s campaign would not have scoped this out with Rainbow/PUSH long ago. Either the Obama campaign neglected to do so, or Rainbow/PUSH picked the right person to persuade outsiders that no inquiries were made, or — more likely — there was nothing to scope out.

I suggested to Mr. Lewis that he try to find a copy, since he was likely to get inquiries. He said that he planned to get on it right away, since I was probably only the first of many more requests.

I hope that if Rainbow/PUSH locates a copy they release it as soon as possible to prevent this rumor from snowballing. In its limbo state, this rumor does damage to all three candidates, as well as to the political process.

Given the tenor of comments I have seen elsewhere on this rumor, I have not turned on comments. If it proves to be false (or true), I will then post with open comments. Until then, the most civil discussion I’ve seen is here.

By the way, the Rainbow/PUSH Headquarters are just a few blocks from Barack Obama’s house and a few blocks from Louis Farrakhan’s house. When I drove past Obama’s house on the way home, there was an Obama for President sign on the front lawn of the house next door to the Obamas’s, but none visible on the Obamas’s house.

[ellacott]

20. I'll be following this blogger

Hopefully he will get the tapes

[HamdenRice]

14. One of them traced the "transcript" to a joke on Kos!

Talk about bullshit becoming a circularly quoted "fact."


Not sure if this blogger is banned from linking here, so I'll just mention his name -- Joseph Cannon.

He was pissed off the other day when the "transcript" turned out to be traceable to a joke on Kos:

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2008/5/18/21402/9994/259#c259

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

The truth is she was talking about President Bush. I was there at Trinity and this is what she said:

Why'd he cut folks off medicaid?
Why'd he let New Orleans drown?
Why'd he do nothing about Jena?
Why'd he put us in Iraq for no reason?

Unfortunately, Pat Buchanan was in the audience <Me: ie, this is a joke!> that day and you know how paranoid Ole' Pat is around black people. He swears up and down this is what he heard her say:

Whitey cut folks off medicaid!
Whitey let New Orleans drown!
Whitey do nothin' 'bout Jena!
Whitey put us in Iraq for no reason!

[Blue Diadem]

15. Beckel apparently brought it up on Faux

I was reading Hillary's blog and ran across a link to Democrats against Obama where I also found the same BS.

Remind me not to do that again..

[Thrill]

16. LOL! If there was a tape, It would of been released by now. When Hillary needed it the most

[leftofcool]

18. You think the GOP wants to help Hillary?

They are the ones alleged to have a copy.

[Mike L]

21. The GOP would wait until late in the GE to release it, if it exists.

Knowing that Michelle is a radical activist, I believe there is something big out there.

[ellacott]

23. She's a radical activist?

[Mike L]

28. How long did she belong to Trinity church? em

[ErinBerin84]

30. lol

great evidence! :)


Will you be leaving the board next week?

[ellacott]

32. So only radical activists go to Trinity?

[Mike L]

41. That's a reasonable conclusion.........

http://www.writehillaryin.com/uploads/obama3.pdf

[FVZA_Colonel]

43. No, it really isn't.

[ellacott]

46. There is no way that I'm clicking that link

And it really is a very ignorant conclusion and if that a conclusion that you've come with then that says a lot about you. Basically, you don't know what you are talking about.

[Mike L]

50. It's a very logical conclusion when you add Rev. Wright, Father Pfleger,

and Louis Farrakhan to the mix.

[ellacott]

51. It's a very short sighted conclusion based on news clips

The sad thing is that people don't know how to do their own research.

[Mike L]

53. The congregation was clapping and agreeing to the outrageous comments

in those video clips. Trinity gave Louis Farrakhan a Lifetime Achievement Award......

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qn-ipVJcq1U

You have been brainwashed if you can't see the culture that the Obamas were immersed in.

[ellacott]

61. You have been brainwashed because you refuse to do your own research

You let those clips tell you what to think.

[FVZA_Colonel]

42. So the many thousands of people who go to TUC are all radical activists then?

[FVZA_Colonel]

26. How is she radical?

And how is there anything to this other than bullshit internet speculation?

[smiley_glad_hands]

31. Won't have to put up with you too much longer. eom

[WeDidIt]

36. Point to Michelle Obama's radical activism or you are a liar

I'm calling you out on that statement.

And I take it personally.

Michelle Obama is a family friend.

[rebel with a cause]

60. If you really know her and talk to her

tell her that SI send her family their love. Well, my family does. I haven't met her, only Barack. But I would love to see her and tell her how some of us people down here feel about her. She is something else. and I mean that in a good way.

[jeffrey_X]

37. uh...YES!

they would rather face her than Obama. where have you been?

[vaberella]

38. Beckel did say that it will come out today which contradicts what's on NQ which is that it comes out

during the GE.

[vaberella]

39. double post.

[FVZA_Colonel]

19. They said it would be out on Monday. They then said they needed three more days.

If it's not out by midnight, Hawaiian time on Thursday then it is simply bull shit.

[vaberella]

48. Hawaiian time?! LOL is eastern. :D

[FVZA_Colonel]

57. I decided to be generous.

[Igel]

22. The entire thing is an irritation.

If the recording exists, then it's true that it exists, and no amount of pointing out inconsistencies in claims prior to its appearance makes a whit of difference.

The only reason to be upset at the suggestion it exists is that you are afraid that (a) the simple minded will assume it exists, and that's bad, or (b) you think it might exist, and that's bad.

If it doesn't exist, raising a hue and cry about it also is a distraction. It draws people's attention to the claims, providing free publicity. And, again, dwelling on inconsistencies looks like you're trying to convince yourself it doesn't exist, etc., etc.

It's an irrelevancy until the recording is produced, and a serious fact if and when it's produced.

[vaberella]

40. ultimately what it does is mess with people's votes

[billyoc]

24. Just wait, you'll see, and then you'll all feel stupid for not believing!

[Junkdrawer]

25. If true, Bill probably heard about the comments the day they occurred....

Bill Clinton spoke during the Conference, as did Bill Cosby and other speakers, but not at the panel Michelle attended.

....

For about 30 minutes, Michelle Obama launched into a rant about the evils of America, and how America is to blame for the problems of Africa. Michelle personally blamed President Clinton for the deaths of millions of Africans and said America is responsible for the genocide of the Tutsis and other ethnic groups. She then launched into an attack on "whitey", and talked about solutions to black on black crime in the realm of diverting those actions onto white America. Her rant was fueled by the crowd: they reacted strongly to what she said, so she got more passionate and enraged, and that's when she completely loses it and says things that have made the mouths drop of everyone who's seen this.

....



Whether he has a copy of the DVD is another question...

[vaberella]

44. Exactly. But then they say it's a conference he wasn't there for but I'm like why wouldn't Hillary

be there and be aware of what she said and it was during the time of Obama's Senatorial either inauguration or run; yet this tape didn't surface then. Where is it?

[Jersey Devil]

27. Well, heck, if they want the video I have it right here in my post

http://youtube.com/watch?v=f5fKvAyvH5o

[vaberella]

49. I've got your number JD---you won't get me again.

[2rth2pwr]

29. What's untruthful about what she is purported to say?

[smiley_glad_hands]

33. What exactly are you talking about? eom

[Jersey Devil]

35. Hmm? How do you prove a negative?

[Clark2008]

34. What's the big deal>

Whitey Whitney was one of the Beav's best friends. Can't get much more wholesome than that!



;)

[spanone]

45. it's only just begun

[jesus_of_suburbia]

52. This is B.S. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Michelle wouldn't say this

It's a lie to put doubt into our heads. To make us think Michelle is racist.

[vaberella]

54. This is an update to the article DAVEPC posted, link below

http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2008_06_01-2008_06_07.shtml#1212598400


UPDATE: There are some anomalies in the story so far: according to the rumors, the Rainbow/Push conference was supposed to be held at Trinity United, yet schedules posted at Hillbuzz and elsewhere do not show the event as taking place at the church. Further, the schedule shows Michelle Obama as a "Special Guest," not a speaker. Last, if it wasn't at the church, why would the DVD have been on sale there? I remain highly skeptical that this story will amount to anything.

[FredScuttle]

55. Why can't she leave old Yankee pitchers alone?

[kwenu]

56. Once again, this is BULLSHIT from closet racists including the geniuses who keep reposting it.

I have a really hard time believing Michelle Obama would say something like that. And she DAMN SURE wouldn't do it a a conference or convention. That's effin insane.

If they claim they have video put the video up. Don't retread the lie to be a transcript. Hell we all can make up a transcript.

Stop posting this kind of useless shit.

[mod mom]

58. Let me guess Larry Johnson transcribed "Why'd he" as "whitey"

:mad: