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GaYellowDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:31 AM
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A message from an Edwards supporter to Clinton supporters.
I'm sorry.

I understand.

I get it.

You see, all of us who are Edwards supporters love our candidate. We all would still rather have him as nominee than anyone else. We think he's a wonderful man with an incredible spouse. We think he's a man who has been tested by poverty, by tragedy, and has come through with an incredible amount of compassion and humanity. We think he could teach this country what it is to think of others again. Anyone else, frankly, always felt like a distant second. Anyone else felt like settling.

We Edwards supporters could sit around and talk all day about how our candidate got shortchanged. How unfair it was that the national media always seemed to marginalize him. How his best ideas always seemed to be trumpeted by the "leading" candidates days later. And so forth and so on. But the bottom line, unfortunately, was that our candidate simply didn't get the delegates he needed. So, grudgingly, we came back to the party.

It's a bitter pill to swallow. We understand. You don't think we loved our candidate any less than you love yours, did you? Some of us talked about not coming back. We all eventually did. Some of us even got disappointed a second time after coming back as Clinton supporters. I can guarantee you, though, that virtually all of us Edwards supporters will be back for the general election, because we recognize that the differences among Democratic candidates are very heavily outweighed by the differences between any of our candidates and McCain.

Who amongst you would threaten to vote for George W. Bush again? Or to threaten to stay home and not vote against him? I wouldn't think that of any of you. That's precisely what you're doing when you say you can't vote for Barack Obama, because John McCain has rubberstamped the Bush administration for eight years, and is in too deep to extricate himself (even if he wanted to, which I don't believe for a second). Sure, he might be a little less combative and in your face about it, but make no mistake: the policies will remain identical. Imagine, if you will, that somehow the Republicans had managed to get the two term limit removed and W was running for office again. That is what a McCain candidacy represents.

When you hear people talking about corporate candidates and how the parties aren't different, etc., etc., remember this: the same kind of rhetoric was spread about Gore during the 2000 election by Ralph Nader and the Green Party. I think 99% of you would agree that this country would have been substantially better off had Gore been elected eight years ago, and you can disregard the other 1% as utter fools. In the same respect, this country will be dramatically better off four years from now with Obama at the helm than it would McCain. It would have been dramatically better off with Clinton at the helm than it would McCain.

Here's some advice: take a little time off. Don't watch Hardball or other political shows for a couple of days. Learn how to breathe again. And then come back. We Democrats are passionate, fiery people who battle bitterly amongst ourselves. Person for person, we might obliterate the opposition, but unless we patch up our differences, against a unified opponent we eventually, inevitably, will fall. If you cannot bring yourself to vote for Obama, if you love yourself, if you love your children, if you love your grandchildren, if you love your country, it is your obligation to at least vote against four more years of Bush.

If for no other reason, you need to vote for Obama and leave so little doubt that Republicans cannot risk stealing another presidential election.

And Obama supporters: think of how you would feel had a flood of superdelegates come to Clinton's support. Think of how angry and bitter you would feel. If you care about a unified party, and care about whether we keep McBush out of office in November, you need to stop criticizing Hillary Clinton and her supporters from this moment. Do you think our nominee would turn a single vote away? I don't, but you risk precisely that by going after Hillary. Do you think Obama's message of unification is consistent with mocking or downgrading Hillary or her supporters? Be gracious winners, as you admire your candidate for being, and do your utmost to make a very difficult decision for Hillary Clinton supporters an easier one. As you expect Clinton supporters to swallow their pride and vote for Obama, it has now become your responsibility to swallow your own pride and do the things you need to do such that Hillary supporters can come out of the booth in November happy for having voted Democratic. If you take this as your opportunity to rub it in, any satisfaction you feel will be outweighed by yet another failed Democratic presidential nominee in November. The Democratic Party needs Hillary Clinton and all of her supporters. Recognize it, and act accordingly.

It is time for unity. I do not speak of Republican lockstep unity, but of the realization that despite our fierce in-family fighting, the foe outside the walls is much more dangerous, and our differences must take second place to putting the enemy down.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:34 AM
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1. This is a great post. Thank you.
Edited on Wed Jun-04-08 08:35 AM by Midlodemocrat
:thumbsup:

And, I was a Kucinich supporter prior to Edwards. I will vote for the Dem in the GE.
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TeamsterDem Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:34 AM
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2. Brilliant post. I love Edwards and agree
that he got the short end of the stick media-wise. He's a great Dem and I look forward to seeing what he does in the future. Great things I'm sure.
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Vote2008 Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:34 AM
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3. Great post!
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:37 AM
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4. From a former Edwards supporter, I wholeheartedly agree...nt
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:37 AM
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5. i regret both my support and the money i gave to edwards campaign.
i really believed that edwards would have made a good prez -- but when he supported obama -- that all changed for me.

now i don't have a candidate for prez.

however -- i did vote for loni hancock in cali's second primary yesterday.

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Franks Wild Years Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:39 AM
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6. Well, it looks like McCain is your candidate by default.
Enjoy!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:42 AM
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11. no, mcsame is not my candidate.
but cultists would have everyone believe that to be true.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:45 AM
Response to Reply #6
16. Don't say that. A lot of members of the GLBT community
feel betrayed by Obama. Their feelings are very valid and shouldn't be dismissed.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:52 AM
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18. thank you. nt
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weezie1317 Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:55 AM
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20. Fair enough. But do you also know that there are 2 choices here and Obama is by far the better and
by not voting at all, you are in effect voting for McCain? Life will be far worse with McCain as president.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:03 AM
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26. I've been voting for 32 years. Never voted for the Republican, never will.
I think that is a given for people on this site.
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weezie1317 Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:13 AM
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30. Not voting also is voting for McCain this year. That's what I tried to write. ()
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:21 AM
Response to Reply #30
31. Where did I say I wouldn't be voting?
Oh, right. I didn't say that.
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weezie1317 Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:24 AM
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34. You didn't respond to that part of my post, so your post reads that way. ()
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kdpeters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 02:34 AM
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43. It's time for those folks to get over it already.
I feel obligated to except two people from what I'm about to say because I remember well posts by dsc and chovexani actually responding to the situation constructively and quite eloquently that they made an impression on me. Otherwise, most of the reactions, however, I found counterproductive. I had one of my own posts linked from an OP outrage rant calling me out for being a gay person who didn't take offense to the first news about McClurkin emceeing a fund-raiser. I was still supporting Edwards at the time so it couldn't be said that I was being a cultist, but that was more typical of the reactions then and since.

The lopsided criticism Obama gets from some folks and the inexplicably intense hostility reserved for him and him alone strikes me as disingenuous and cynical, political exploitation. Any adult gayfolks who've been involved a while should not have been surprised. Disappointed, betrayed as you said, but not surprised and hardly worse than the other viable candidates' histories. Considering all three as well as Bill Clinton, there's not a one that really stands out significantly better or worse than the others on any substantive issue. They all disappoint, they play safe politics, but they all are mostly positive taking everything into account. It makes no sense that the vitriol is reserved for Obama and Obama alone.

I'm sick of how some here pull out the "I'm-the-authority-because-I'm-gay" trump card on well-meaning others even while turning on fellow GLBTers who have a different perspective. It's hard for this gay man to take the complaints serious by folks who would place their irrational hatred for Obama above GLBT solidarity. It's bad enough putting up with it from fellow GLBTs, but it's downright patronizing and offensive coming from self-anointed "allies" who take license to do the same.

The people harping constantly on McClurkin for the past eight months are selectively impermeable to reason if it requires giving Obama a fair shake even while making excuses for Edwards and the Clintons. Many of these folks you say have valid feelings are usually looking for conflict, not communication and they are the quickest to throw around disparaging epithets -- like xchrom's "cultists" remark above. That's why they are dismissed even by many of us within the GLBT community.

Someone who would completely dismiss John Edwards for his Obama endorsement is just being childish. At this point, anyone who can't jump onboard to support the Democratic because they're still sore over the McClurkin incident -- especially someone living in San Francisco, California who already lives in full equality recognized both legally and socially -- is a short-sighted, selfish, single-issue narcissist who should sign up to serve in Iraq if he can't think of any urgent issue to motivate him to work his ass off our candidate.

Seriously. It's time to get over the McClurkin incident and move on.
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KSinTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:37 AM
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53. I applaud your for your voice of reason
I understand that there are a number of reasons someone becomes a single-issue voter and that because of moral convictions one may be rendered incapable of voting for someone because of a candidate's record or stated position. But what is being held over Obama's head on the gay front seems based on an incident, not a position. It is akin to saying one could not vote for Edwards on his poverty initiatives because he gets expensive haircuts. It is to suggest that he could not possibly understand the troubles of the poor because he is not - a position that would eliminate easily 90 percent, if not all, of legislators today.
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kdpeters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 12:11 PM
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55. I guess you can call me a single issue voter on Iraq at this point
I understand that there are a number of reasons someone becomes a single-issue voter and that because of moral convictions one may be rendered incapable of voting for someone because of a candidate's record or stated position.


I can see that as well even including GLBT issues. For me, war trumps all. There is nothing more crucial or more urgent having greater impact for more people than the consequences of war.

what is being held over Obama's head on the gay front seems based on an incident, not a position.

That's a good point and a good way of stating it. It seems pretty clear what the motivation has been to hold it over Obama's head for eight months, but it's time to put an end to it. We have a nominee and need to take our country back now.
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ExPatLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:00 AM
Response to Reply #16
49. Please tell us how Obama "betrayed" you. n/t
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GaYellowDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:45 AM
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15. This is precisely what I am warning against.
You are vitally important. Your vote is vitally important. My point is that you do have a candidate for president. I don't care whether you call him Obama or Anyone But Four More Years of Bush. It is better that you hold your nose and vote for a Democrat than be stabbed in the heart because you didn't vote against a Republican.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:39 AM
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7. You know I wish everybody would just STOP telling people
how to feel.

In 2003-04 I supported Wes Clark, he dropped out, I was crushed for weeks. But I voted for Kerry.

This time, I supported Joe Biden until he dropped out in Jan. 2008. I switched my support to Obama. Am I happy? Yes I am thrilled.

Let people feel how they feel, it's part of the process. All these threads telling people to calm down, get over it, stop being mean are just irritating. DU is a message board, if you don't like what you see then TURN OFF YOUR COMPUTER AND DO SOMETHING ELSE.

:rant:
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:39 AM
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8. You know, reading through the first 2 pages of GDP this morning,
I'm not finding bitter threads by Clinton supporters. I'm finding an over-the-top hate fest by Obama supporters, who, not satisfied with winning, feel the need to burn all their bridges with almost half the party who voted for Clinton.

I don't disagree with your post, but it seems like it's addressed to the wrong camp.

As someone who didn't support either of them, I'm not celebrating or mourning. What cannot be changed must be endured, and I've got lots of practice enduring political disappointments.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:45 AM
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14. Vicious in Victory, the hallmark of the Obama campaign.
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XtraProudDem Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:02 AM
Response to Reply #14
24. I'm trying really hard...
...to stop putting people on my ignore list.

PLEASE stop posting this in every thread.
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 06:09 AM
Response to Reply #24
48. too late for me
whoever that one is, all is see is ignore...

:)

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Eric Condon Donating Member (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:20 PM
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40. Not like Zellary supporters, whom I'm sure would've been the very picture of gracious victory. nt
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:40 AM
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9. K&R
with much admiration for your well phrased message
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:42 AM
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10. K/R.
:kick:
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:43 AM
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12. I voted for Edwards in the Primary but moved quickly toObama
Great Post A good call for unity....K&R...Hope every one here reads it.....
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:44 AM
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13. Stop criticizing Hillary? Can a pig stop oinking?
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:06 AM
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27. Apparently not...
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quickesst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:16 AM
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50. "Stop criticizing Hillary? Can a pig stop oinking?"
The two do seem to go hand in hand. Why would one stop using that which has been the wind beneath the wings of support for Obama. Without Clinton hatred, they would be lost. Thanks.
quickesst
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:37 AM
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52. Can a DINO stop acting like a republican?
When she starts giving respect, perhaps she'll get some in return.
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griffi94 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:49 AM
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17. well said
except for the fact that neither edwards or his supporters, of which i was one, have had to deal with the level of absolute blind hatred that hillary has, and by extension, her supporters. i've said it before and i'll say it again now. it's the same mind set the neocons had. it's not enough that their candidate won the nomination, they feel some need to continue to attack even after they've won.
i can't support the politics of "we won so fuck you" imho that's just replacing rw hate with lw hate. i realize that a majority of obama supporters aren't like that, but that's probably a cold comfort for hillarys supporters here who keep getting dumped on.
i wonder how the obama supporters will feel if he should lose the ge. will they be willing to accept responsibility for any part their behavior may have played in his defeat, or will they all pile on the clintons again.
from my experience blind hatred of all things clinton is an ugly rw trait, and it's not anymore attractive coming from the left.



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GaYellowDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:54 AM
Response to Reply #17
19. Which is why I said this:
and I don't mind repeating it for emphasis to Obama supporters:

it has now become your responsibility to swallow your own pride and do the things you need to do such that Hillary supporters can come out of the booth in November happy for having voted Democratic. If you take this as your opportunity to rub it in, any satisfaction you feel will be outweighed by yet another failed Democratic presidential nominee in November. The Democratic Party needs Hillary Clinton and all of her supporters. Recognize it, and act accordingly.

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griffi94 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:02 AM
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25. i think that's about right
now let me ask you something. do you think the obama supporters here will stop attacking hillarys supporters, and stop with the inflamed anti-hillary rhetoric, or will they continue to pile on and slag hillarys supporters until there are none left here at du.
i've already seen one thread calling for a purge. the funny thing is the only ones i see bringing up hillary is the obama group.

i hope that your op is heeded, but i have to tell you that at this point i'm not optimistic.
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GaYellowDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:10 AM
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28. It really doesn't matter, and let me explain that...
I can't stop a single person from either side from fighting or being vicious. I think the fighting is a bad thing for our party, and at this point, I think what weakens us helps the Republicans, and hence, is bad for America. I can't stop the fighting. All I can do is ask. It doesn't matter that what I say can't stop anyone or everyone. It only matters that I ask.

Edmund Burke said, "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle." Viewed against Republicans and their coterie of representatives like McCain, Bush, Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, O'Reilly, Malkin, and on and on, I view the great majority of this board on either side as the good. I hope we all have the sense to associate.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 12:19 AM
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42. they will always, always, ALWAYS hate Hillary
like the neocons, they will ALWAYS find something to blame her for and hate her for - ALWAYS
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weezie1317 Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:56 AM
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21. Beautifully said! ()
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:57 AM
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22. Well, I'll just say that not everyone thinks like you do...
...but they should. Well put! :patriot:
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:00 AM
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23. Absolutely brilliant post. Thank you. nt
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:13 AM
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29. wonderful post, every single paragraph
:applause:
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:44 AM
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32. Kick the positive posts, let the negative ones sink into oblivion
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Left coast liberal Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:49 AM
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33. Well said and right on the money! Thanks.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:44 AM
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35. Kick'n for the right attitude. n/t
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 12:05 PM
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36. This line is especially important.
I hope everyone reads it and REMEMBERS it.

"The Democratic Party needs Hillary Clinton and all of her supporters. Recognize it, and act accordingly."

Thanks for this post and understanding and expressing how we Hillary supporters feel.
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 12:45 PM
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37. As a one time edwards supporter I somewhat disagree with you
we shouldn't have to bring them around, they should have the wisdom and graciousness to bring themselves around.

I'm always hearing about over the top "hillary-hate" but I very rarely see anything that truly qualifies. I see frustration with her supporters blindness, and anger at her arrogant selfishness, but I very rarely see anything from Obama supporters that is outsized in response to her campaigns own excesses.

What I see from Hillary supporters is a variation on "you forced me to take my ball and go home"
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 02:45 PM
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38. happy to reccommend.
great post.

I was for kucinich, then edwards, then grudgingly Obama, then increasingly admiring of Obama, then firmly Obama.

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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:16 PM
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39. I was first and foremost an EDWARDS supporter. I understand and I have moved on.
It is time. Well past time, actually.
:kick:
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:55 PM
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41. Former Edwards supporter checking in. eom
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vanboggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 03:45 AM
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44. Another avid Edwards supporter feels the same
Thank you for this post GAyellowdog. I echo your sentiments.

When Edwards dropped out I could no longer see a good outcome, and for the first time in my long life I no longer cared about a Presidential election. I dropped out of politics. I quit following Congress on C-Span, even limited myself to non-political forums on DU. I stopped watching K.O. and TDS. I announced to friends and family that I had sworn off politics and didn't care who won because the remaining candidates were all alike. I was wrong and I got past that.

Then I healed a little and said that though I was very disappointed with the remaining candidates, I'd still drag myself to the polls in November to vote for the "D".

Now it has been a few months. Do I still think Edwards was the right choice, yes. But I am starting to don my anti-Bush t-shirts. I even occasionally catch a news show, though I'm not as rabid about it as I was before JRE stepped down. It gets easier.

Will I be phone banking, putting up Obama signs, donating cash and talking him up to everyone I know? I won't say never, but probably not. But to those on the fence, I will be pointing out the differences between Obama and McCain and stressing Obama's strengths as much as I can.

With Obama our country may have a chance...with McCain we're done. That's a fact, and we have to accept it and deal with it.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 04:19 AM
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45. Now that's a post.
I like Democrats like you. A lot.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 04:35 AM
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46. I've said all along that I intended to vote for the nominee
because I'm a loyal Democrat -- most certainly not because I like Obama.

I also voted for Edwards in my primary in California.

But please quit with the "We Edwards supporters..." meme.

You don't speak for me GaYellowDawg. You speak for yourself.
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GaYellowDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 06:06 AM
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47. Well, good for you.
There were a lot of general commonalities in how Edwards supporters felt during the campaign and after it ceased. Many of them were expressed right here. Given that, I feel pretty confident about my ability to speak for more than just myself. Oh well. The next time I try to put up a positive post, I'll be sure to parenthetically exclude you.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:31 AM
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51. A needed superdelegate reform
One of the things I find incredible about how long this primary has gone on is that, in retrospect, Edwards (my first choice), Biden and the others all dropped out when they did. The lead that Obama and Clinton had on them is nothing compared to the lead Obama has on Clinton now, in terms of the percentage of remaining delegates she would have to claim to get the nomination.

I supported Edwards as a southern, liberal Democrat. I thought that there wasn't much difference between Obama and Clinton at the time, and, in terms of policy, there still isn't. Still, I decided for Obama for a lot of reasons a couple of weeks after Edwards dropped out. This race has shown that policy positions are not the only things that matter, that the means take on a new significance when there's agreement about the ends.

I do think that one of the reason Edwards, Biden, Richardson and the others dropped out when they did is that Clinton had such a lead among superdelegates early on. Next time around, I think that there should be an absolute prohibition on superdelegates declaring before all the votes are in. From some of the posts I've seen here, I hope that this is one of the things we Democrats can agree upon as we move forward and put this ugliness behind us.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:50 AM
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54. I second this post
When Edwards dropped out, I spent about a week, saying, "fuck it, I'm outta here!" I didn't ever consider voting for the other guy but I did consider not voting. And then I went through a bit of time on the fence, knowing I would vote for either of the other candidates but not really giving a damn. All that was after my heart got broken by Gore declining to run in the first place! Ouch times two this time.

Give yourself time because it hurts like hell, but don't take too much time, because McSame is going to be so easily and quickly taken down, you might miss the fun. We've had tons of pain in the primary, please don't miss out on the fun!
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