With Obama beating Hillary by 30,000 in MT. She can no longer claim she won the popular vote

[Thrill]

The media better call her on it

[NJmaverick]

1. Good point

Although she is going into hiding and her staff is being fired. There will not be a whole lot of people to carry her message.

[Thrill]

3. Shes keeping her supporters angry by saying it. And its not true. Even with her math now

not counting caucus states

[papau]

6. MSNBC had her up by 3000 prior to DS/MT - now down by 17000 - but then add in Mich

[WA98296]

2. I was wondering where this ended up. What was the spread in SD?

[Thrill]

4. She won there by 10,000. Net 20,000 for Obama. Popular vote win

[papau]

7. She needs Mich to be counted to claim popular vote win

[pdxmom]

5. You forget that Montana doesn't count. Hillary declared South Dakota

as the end of the race.

[WA98296]

8. Ah crap!

[WA98296]

9. Great, thanks for bringing this up. We need to make sure the press GETS it.

[JVS]

10. Wooo hooo! Another bit of Hillary BS gone!

[mohc]

11. Unfortunately, the way she is counting it she is in the lead

First, its nice that Clinton is finally including caucus votes, because without them she could not be claiming 18 million voters. With all primaries and caucuses, including Florida and Michigan, Clinton ended up with 18,013,981 votes (with the Montana polls not closed yet, she actually did not have 18 million at the time she gave her speech). Obama has 17,829,810 if you give him no votes in Michigan, which gives Clinton a narrow lead. If you count uncommitted for Obama he moves to 18,067,978, ahead of Clinton. Even reducing this to the percentage of uncommitted that said they would vote for Obama if he were on the ballot in the exit poll, Obama maintains his lead. Clinton surrogates keep saying that the uncommitted votes need to be honored as uncommitted, as that is what the rule says. But you can not have it both ways, either rules should matter or you should focus on the true will of the voter. If you side with rules, Florida and Michigan should not count at all and Obama has a large lead, if you side with voter will Obama maintains a narrower lead.

[Window]

12. Ah, Clinton math.

[calmblueocean]

13. K&Red for truth

It will be interesting if she keeps clinging to this lie, and whether the media calls her on it.

[grace0418]

14. She couldn't honestly say that before either.

Clinton math.