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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:45 PM
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Hillary Clinton declares open warfare.
What does she want?

Who the fuck cares what she wants?

She is the most divisive egocentric lunatic on the face of the planet.

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:48 PM
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1. Yup! She could care less...
about the Democratic Party. She is going for "The Third Way". "Scorched Earth". I hope Obama is altering his speech right now.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:48 PM
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2. It's all about Hill!
The media continues to let this circus go on and on. Anyone who is still in her camp is an enabler of an ego maniac and if you think she gives one damn about any of us you are kidding yourself. ONE WORD.....BOSNIA!!!!!!!!!!
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:48 PM
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3. Her supporters in that room are once again shouting "DENVER! DENVER! DENVER!" n/t
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:48 PM
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4. What in the FUCK is she doing??!! What a miserable, loathesome human being.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:53 PM
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20. Oh, don't you know? We should give Hillary a pass on whatever she wants to do....
BAH. I've had it with appeasers. Didn't like it when the French did it, and don't like the Hillary appeasers much more.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:14 PM
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38. Ok. Seriously. Did we watch the same speech?
I swear I'm stone cold sober and on pure air right now. I thought her speech was uncharistically gracious compared to previous speeches. As one human being judging another, I :hide: gave her an A- for effort.

I admit I was vacuuming at the time but what did I miss?

I think we need to not judge her by Obama's barometer of graciousness. Maybe too I was expecting such nonesense from her that I didn't get offended at what she said. I found it insipid, pandering and very manipulative of her supporters but no more loathesome than what other politicians have said or done.

Help me out here before I make a fool of myself gicing her a slight pass. FYI, my brother died in Iraq and that's the main reason I loathe her and other politicians who voted for this war. My emotional fury is very deep but politically, I don't understand the outcry against her tonight. It seemed more to me that BOTHBarack and Hillary have already started the tenuous, difficult path to healing these bitter Primary divisions and that we should support them, even if it looked like baby steps. Honestly my friend, when I listened to Hillary, I thought those were more than baby steps. Help me out here before I make a fool of myself if I missed something. Maybe I'm just too tired of fighting with people I know are on the same side tp see things properly.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:22 PM
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39. Dearest Catherina.. I envy you your ability to focus on the superbly wonderful
thing that happened tonight and not be consumed by what some of us see as Hillary's great downfall. Her last fatal mistake.

Tonight was an historic night which should have belonged to Barack Obama. She could have begun to unify the party, instead, she did not even acknowledge he won; she asked her supporters to send in suggestions; she basically threatened to form a coalition government; she had no grace, no dignity; she is inflaming her supporters and continuing to divide the party. Articles will be out tomorrow; books will be written about this.. and about her one, singular, selfish act.

Given your tragic history, and I am so sorry about your brother, I can understand why you are ready to heal.. ready to see the best in everyone and everything. I envy you that. Please don't let OUR outrage here spoil the elation YOU feel tonight.

I don't want that. Barack wouldn't want that. Each of us has to fight a different fight, until we're each ready to lay down our arms.

I suppose Hillary is no different.

Hugs to you.. try to stay away from here for awhile.. it won't get better until she has bowed out.

:hug: Much love to you :hi:

KG
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:33 PM
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40. Thank you my friend
:hug:

I'm going to watch her speech again.

I think I'm just so ecstatic that Obama won that I'm not looking at the small stuff. All the trolls in the world won't ruin this moment for me now that the significance of his win is really beginning to hit me. Tonight belongs to Obama and to us. None of them can take it away.

I swore when my brother died that I'd work against EVERY politician who ever enabled this war so we had a private moment tonight where I celebrated with him and all the past and future victims whose lives are so cheap to politicians.

Tonight still belongs to us and to Obama. Michelle is probably giving him mad kisses right now, celebrating with great champagne.

Her coalition government will fail as epically as her inevitability. I kind of feel sorry for her and won't ever forgive her campaign for the tactics they used, Bill especially.

Thank you for your wonderful answer. I'm going to go soon and do some more private celebrating.

This one's for T. We beat em. We really beat em

:hug:
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:48 PM
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5. Nonsense.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:49 PM
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6. To hell with her. Unite behind the nominee of the Democratic Party for 2008.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:49 PM
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7. NOT YET... not yet...
she hasn't yet, this is a vanilla flavor speech for this type so far
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:49 PM
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8. She's inviting the media to rip her apart for this.
It's all part of the founding myth. Unless she redeems herself quickly, that's the only thing that makes sense.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:49 PM
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OH my god.....
THIS WOMAN IS A FUCKING LUNATIC.
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panAmerican Donating Member (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:49 PM
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9. HRC: "I will be making no decisions tonight"
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:51 PM
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14. "Come to my website and help out any way you can"...
jeez.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:50 PM
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10. AH, FUCK "where do we go from here"....
HOME, Hillary..you go HOME.

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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:50 PM
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11. Obama should have walked out and made the networks cut from her speech when he realized she was
going to try to say she should win over the nominee. ONce you have a nominee you don't say shit like that. I hope the remaining supers jump to Obama and make her ass look stupid.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 12:05 AM
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41. I didn't hear her say that.
Where did she say that?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:50 PM
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And begs for money.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:50 PM
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12. She's now begging for more money to keep her campaign going.
Fuck that.
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:50 PM
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13. My husband just stormed out of the house. This is unbelievable!
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:52 PM
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19. My family is freaking too...
can't believe she is doing this. Kind of feels like 2000, and 2004.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:51 PM
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15. what an ass
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:52 PM
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16. Where are those posters admonishing us to leave poor Hillary alone?....
As I've said before, you don't use the kumbaya strategy with someone who is trying to steal an election.
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chiffon Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:52 PM
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17. Reminds me of a California wildfire. It just burns and burns.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:52 PM
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18. FUCKING &*%#@!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO TO HELL HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :grr: :nuke: :nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke:
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:53 PM
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21. To force her way onto the ticket through blackmail. Pick me or we're going to Denver!
Obama will lose this campaign. The Clintons will see to it...
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:54 PM
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22. Time for every single SD to tell her to go
Crush her.
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KaptBunnyPants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:57 PM
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26. Every SD that doesn't support Obama by tomorrow supports this.
Every single last damn one.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:54 PM
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23. Selfish, selfish, selfish
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:54 PM
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24. Hillary supporters take note, she declared war on the Democratic party
and she is going to get the war SHE asked for. No whining about poor hillary abused!
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:55 PM
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25. Olbermann sez that building has no cell phone coverage
And ponders if anyone in the hall knew that Obama became the presumptive nominee 54 minutes ago.

Not that they'd care. :eyes:
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:58 PM
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27. I now "officially" loathe her....
She could have ended this with grace and dignity but, no, she is going to do her "best" to create havoc and continue to disgrace herself and her legacy. Once I get over my disgust, I suspect I will move to pity her but NOT yet.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 09:21 PM
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28. Kicking this thread.
:dem:
Go away, Hillary.....just fucking GO AWAY!
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Clear Blue Sky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 09:22 PM
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29. It's always been about her.
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 09:49 PM
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30. I'm pissed at her. But after watching Obama handle himself today,
I have much faith in our nominee's ability to dispose of his narcissist problem. The way he flipped McCain's attack on his lack of experience around in that speech was masterful, and I trust he can flip Clinton's temper tantrum's back at her too.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 09:57 PM
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31. 'Twas a thing of beauty, wasn't it?
Can't wait for the first debate!!:toast:
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:00 PM
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33. I'm sorry, but what was that word you just used?
You've bought yourself a pizza pie
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:02 PM
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34. If she can't make any decisions tonight,
Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 10:02 PM by Arrowhead2k1
how were we supposed to trust her with making decisive decisions as POTUS?! Is this her idea of leadership? Let her supporters scream DENVER! DENVER! DENVER! as if that truly is an option?

I didn't think it was possible, but I lost even more respect for her tonight. Earlier I was open to the idea of having her as VP. Now just FUCK IT! Anyone but Clinton for VEEP!
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 12:08 AM
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42. WTF is she hoping to gain by "waiting"
She has a narcissistic personality disorder...and refuses to let go of her grip on a lost nomination.

I'm baffled at her motives and think she totally blew it tonight.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:03 PM
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35. Millionaires love money and she wants her $20,000,000 back.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:03 PM
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36. You nailed it: I look at her supporters just around here, and discover I don't give a DAMN what she
wants, or thinks she's entitled to.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:05 PM
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37. There is no precedent in American history for this interpretation (eom)

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