I just realized--I AM one of those people!

[Erin Elizabeth]

I'm about to go meet a colleague at a STARBUCKS where we will have LATTES and go over a presentation/training we're doing later this summer. We might compare notes on where we went to graduate school and then speak of our support for Obama. She's African-American and I'm white. We're both in our late 30s. SHE DRIVES A FUGGING PRIUS! I BUY ORGANIC MILK! I SUPPORT THE ARTS!

Fear me, I am Latte Drinker.



But wait. I also love a good Frito pie. And the rodeo. God, I love the bull riding. My husband and I own a couple of guns. I'm often barefoot and I love old country music. I've got a great big American flag hanging off a pole on my house.

I'm so confused! What am I? I need the mass media to tell me what I am!!!!

[anonymous171]

1. You're an American.

[XemaSab]

2. An American?

:shrug:

[Tatiana]

3. Good for you. I like low-fat lattes too.

:toast:

[Erin Elizabeth]

5. I think I'll kick it Britney Spears style and get a big ol'

5 million calorie Frappucino, though. Hee.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. watch Nascar too? I know can be so confusing

And I brew my Lattes at home....

(We got a twenty + Espresso machine that makes extremely good coffee)

[Erin Elizabeth]

6. No, no NASCAR. Got nothing against it, just don't find it

interesting. In high school, I covered the high school rodeo circuit for our school newspaper and got hooked.

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. Hubby got me into NASCAR....

and you are right, it can be so confusing... I mean I am barefoot RIGHT NOW! And the Espresso Machine beckons!

Hell, we will have pasta for lunch, and we drive a Hybrid too... and I ride a bike these days

[endarkenment]

7. YOU SUPPORT THE ARTS?

Why do you hate america?

[AspenRose]

8. Nothing like Wolf brand chili for Frito Pies.

And Blue Bell Homemade Vanilla....mmmm, mmmm. :9

You wouldn't happen to have a Nehi on you, would you? A Crush would do in a pinch. ;-)

[pocoloco]

16. R o C cola?

[Recursion]

105. That takes me back. How about Double Cola?

Double Cola and a moon pie. That was some eatin'. Occasionally I'd add canned possum, back in the day.

[AnneD]

27. Try Blue Bell Vanilla and IBC Rootbeer.......

Texas Heaven. I like New Age, experimental-but love old C&W like Johnny Cash, Buck Owens, Merle, Rodger Miller, and Willie. I take my Willie straight up with Canadian Club, Loreen McKinnet with a nice Wheat Bear, and Johnny Cash with Miller.

And if you start talking Neo con crap, I'll be happy to show you my gun collection and ask you to show me your service record (which you probably don't have if you are a true Neo con)while I show you mine (USAR 8 active 2 IRR).

If I like you, we can do dinner. Under our roof, Hindu Indian Hubby is vegetarian, 1/2 Jewish but confirmed Methodist daughter likes raw food and I learn toward Sufism and have the only 'American/Mediterranean' diet. I am sure you will find something you would like. Most of us are musicians so you'll find something you'll like.

I may not have much, but I know I live a richer more interesting life than my parents did and I have no problem taking the best that I find in other cultures. But the thing I insist most strenuously, take your shoes off and leave them at the door please.

[Erin Elizabeth]

63. No, I'm sorry but only a Dr. Pepper float will do.

I'm a Texan, thus I drink Dr. Pepper. :)

[Erin Elizabeth]

64. Oh and I'd get along great with you!

[Erin Elizabeth]

58. Don't tell me, you want to put some peanuts in the bottom

of your Dr. Pepper bottle, right?

[DangerDave921]

10. LOL

Why is your friend African American, but you're just plain old white? Why not European American?

Maybe you can find a spark of romance between the two of you, and then you can REALLY span the gamut of Dem supporters! :)

[Erin Elizabeth]

66. No, she's married to a guy and I'm married to a guy.

I'm Caucasian American, how's that? LOL!

[rusty quoin]

11. I'd never go in Starbucks with those spread fins and all.

[Cant trust em]

12. I'd love to see someone drinking a latte WHILE at a rodeo.

Fun stuff.

[endarkenment]

17. Odd that I see starbucks all over 'those states'.

Why is that?

[Erin Elizabeth]

67. You want me to? I'll go to the Mesquite Rodeo and drink

a big ol' venti latte. Or the Ft. Worth stockyards and do the same.

[Cant trust em]

87. I'll need evidence of this. Bring a camera.

:)

[Erin Elizabeth]

92. No problemo!

[DesertFlower]

13. well statistically i should be a hillary supporter.

i'm a 66 year old white woman with a few years of college. i've never had a latte and i don't like starbucks coffee. i brew my own "chock full o nuts" at home. i do try to eat as much organic food as i can.

i drive a mazda miata and i listen to classic rock.

[stray cat]

14. The term organic may be why you don't support Hillary

[FlaGranny]

41. Chock Full of Nuts?

Wow. That coffee was the reason I thought coffee was awful! My mom used to drink it and every once in a while I'd try it. Told everyone I hated coffee. Never tried it again for years. Then tried coffee again and liked it. Drank it for a couple of years before I had some Chock Full o Nuts again. Blech! All those years I thought I hated coffee and it was just the brand. LOL. I do like latte too. :-)

[DesertFlower]

43. i'm a former new yorker. we had

chock full o nuts restaurants all over. they served their coffee in addition to hot dogs, and some awesome pies. a great place to pop in for a quick lunch or a snack after shopping.

i tasted starbucks and thought it was bitter. if i can't get chock full o nuts i settle for folgers.

[FlaGranny]

45. I think it's the chicory -

you either like it or you don't. :-)

[DesertFlower]

56. that could be it.

dunkin donuts coffee tastes good too.

[Raksha]

15. Well, my son drives a Volvo...SO THERE!!!

And I get my veggies from a local an organic produce co-op, and drink lattes every chance I get.

Re I'm about to go meet a colleague at a STARBUCKS where we will have LATTES and go over a presentation/training we're doing later this summer. We might compare notes on where we went to graduate school and then speak of our support for Obama. She's African-American and I'm white. We're both in our late 30s. SHE DRIVES A FUGGING PRIUS! I BUY ORGANIC MILK! I SUPPORT THE ARTS!

Fear me, I am Latte Drinker.

[Adelante]

18. It's what you're not

You're not a stereotype - mostly all Obama supporters are not :hug:

[Oak2004]

80. Yeah, that's the problem in a nutshell

Maybe a generation or two ago these stereotypes existed (but I doubt it). Right now, the pure stereotypes are rare creatures indeed. I "ought" to be a Hillary supporter, if you look at some of my attributes, and am a dead-perfect description of an Obama supporter if you look at other attributes. Hell, if you look at me from yet another angle I should probably still be a Repulsivican cheering on McCain -- I still get the occasional GOP mailing, so clearly someone thinks I should be one of them ;)

Those stereotypes don't exist. The people I know can't be easily pidgeonholed. I know poor folks who love their lattes, rich folks who love their PLO-flavored coffee ;) I know liberals with guns and right wingers signed on to promote gun prohibition. Every flavor of music is loved by every flavor of human. And an increasing number of people I know (including my niece and nephews) can't be neatly shoehorned into "white" or "nonwhite" (in fact, only two of the six who make up the next generation of our family are of purely European descent).

That's not to say that there aren't real groups. There are, but they aren't the cute little "microtrend" marketing groups. The real groups, the ones that loom over everything, are classes. It's the owners of the means of production versus the rest of us. Bourgeousie vs us proletarians, petit bourgeousie ("small business owners", for those not up on their class terminology) and lumpenproletariat (a catch-all term for those of us at the bottom who do not work, regardless of whether it's because we have legitimate reasons or we're criminal --apparently we're all parasites you know -- you can't say the thinking of Karl Marx and of the Republicans have nothing in common, can you?? :))

Those real groups -- the ultra-rich versus the rest of us -- are, however, inconvenient groups, when you're ultra-rich or wholly owned by the ultra-rich. And so we hear never ending crap about lattes and NASCAR.

(BTW - though Marx gave us much of the language we have to describe class conflict, I think Marxism fails to provide a useful way to deal with class issues.)

[eridani]

93. Just 'cos you agree with his diagnosis doesn't have to mean you have buy his suggested therapy n/t

--to buy his suggested therapy.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

19. Smile! You're an elitist, too! n/t

[phrigndumass]

20. You're a lumberjack!

And you're okay.

:D

[2rth2pwr]

21. Confused.

[bunnies]

22. Frito pie?

:shrug:

[AspenRose]

25. Yeah, baby

Major staple of Texas Friday Night High School Football Games (along with nachos)

Get a small bag of Frito's.

Slit the bag open.

Pour chili inside.

Add shredded cheese and onions.



PS-In New Mexico I've had it with beans in the (red chile, as opposed to green chile) chili and they put lettuce and tomatoes on it.

[bunnies]

34. wow. Put the stuff right in the bag?!

I have never ever heard of such a thing. Now I *do* feel like an elitist. :blush:

[JuniperLea]

37. In So Cal we called those...

Frito Boats

or

Taco Boats

They were wildly popular in the late 60's and early 70's at the local Little League ball park.

[Debi]

47. Walking tacos - still popular at local sporting events

and school functions :bounce:

[papapi]

39. Do you eat that with a spork?

[AspenRose]

55. I eat mine with a spoon

Gotta get all the chili, you know :-)

[Debi]

28. bunnies, you haven't lived! n/t

[bunnies]

35. Apparently not! :)

:rofl: I havent eaten a frito in 20 years. Do they make organic fritos? :hi:

[Debi]

44. I don't think so - here's a funny blog post about them.

http://www.poprox.us/post.phtml?pk=3830

(but if you ever do take the dive - add some sour cream to the mix! Might as well die happy :7)

[bunnies]

48. lol. Now that was funny.

Sounds like good drunk food! :toast:

[sfam]

23. You sound like a Canadian...

You don't belong in ANY of the MSM pre-defined categories. You must leave our country. NOW.

Or make changes. I used to think I was hard working, but I liked Starbucks too much, so instead I've just become lazier at work. So I can stay. :)

[Erin Elizabeth]

60. ROFL your post cracked me up.

Canadian eh? I'm not one of those hoseheads. My burps are givin' me whiplash.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

24. You are just bitter ...

... that Toyota doesn't make a Prius pickup truck so you can haul your guns and used frito pie tins out to the back 40 for target practice.

Does Birkenstock make cowboy boots?

Yes, you're confused, but enjoy the latte!

:hi:

[Debi]

26. OMG!

It's quite obvious that YOU are an Obamacrat! :kick:

(where do you live that you enjoy the rodeo? I'm a product of Montana but transplanted in Iowa 22 years ago :( - for politics it rocks, for 'things to do outdoors'.....meh).

[Erin Elizabeth]

69. Tejas. but I mostly catch them on TV.

It's about the only thing I'll watch on CMT. Oh, the bull riding. Such majestic animals.

[charlie]

29. A populist who thinks she's better than herself?

Pissed Off American With a Vote is more like it. That's the unexamined demographic who'll soon surprise the shit out of the media bobbleheads.

[Erin Elizabeth]

62. How would I think I was better than myself?

I am myself. I don't think I'm better than other people, if that's what you mean. For some reason that strain of Midwestern thinking (don't think you're so special) seemed to infect my very southern family and that's how we were all raised.

[charlie]

85. T'was a joke

Not a very good one, apparently :)

Salt of the Earth + Elitist = Someone who thinks she's better than herself.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

30. I drink black coffee, smoke Marlboros, love Bach, Tolstoy and Picasso.

Don't like to watch sports, like movies with subtitles, ex (not former) marine, love my wife, been in my share of barfights, drive a pickup, been on strike, got a BA degree, been on foodstamps, and I can hum the Internationale.

64 year old white male who loathes the Clintons.

[Debi]

46. Holy crap! except for the military service and sports info on your list

I thought you were Mr. Debi! :hi:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

57. Well, he certainly didn't miss anything.

Four, long, boring, interminable years, of doing absolutely nothing of benefit to humanity in any sense of the word.

[Debi]

102. Hmmmmm

My husband served in Congress.....although I think he's a hero, others may describe his time there in the same manner.

Nice to meet you all the same! :hi:

[Erin Elizabeth]

72. OMG you and my husband would get along so wonderfully.

He also doesn't ever watch sports, he's a total movie buff (mostly old stuff), he's an Army veteran, been in barfights, etc. We've been married 17 years. He also loathes the Clintons. Well, really Hillary more than Bill, but the shine has gone off Bill in the last year, too.

[flpoljunkie]

31. You sounds like a great American to me!

[barack the house]

32. You're an american not shaped by statistics but by your own free will.

[Heather MC]

33. The only thing that matters are the worse things about, so

being a hybrid driving, latte drinking, 30 something, white woman for Obama
makes you EVIL










:rofl:

[EFerrari]

36. What is a Frito pie? It sounds lethal!

lol

Just wait 'til you start taking your latte with soy milk. Then you'll know we gotcha. :)

[Erin Elizabeth]

73. I have soy milk in the fridge.

The daughter loves that stuff. Especially chocolate soy milk.

[papapi]

38. You are free to do the things you enjoy and STILL vote for Obama. What a CONCEPT!!!

[Shakespeare]

40. Frito pie?!! OMG, are you from Texas, too?

:7

I've had to explain SO many times over the years what a frito pie is. My native Californian SO is mystified by the whole thing.

I've forsaken lattes for a nice iced coffee during the summer months. :toast:

[Erin Elizabeth]

68. Heck yes.

We've been here since before it was a state (my mom did years of research to find out that little tidbit).

[DeschutesRiver]

42. I do ALL those things

and I am fifty. An old white woman. Retired lawyer - did some biz in London with dh (lawyer) twice a year. Traveled around. Business owner now of several small ones, work from home with dogs at my sandaled feet. Hike WITH an REI espresso pot in deep snow in the winter; with my high energy dogs during summer. Drink so many lattes that I bought an espresso machine. Learning to mountain bike (bruised and sore, but getting better). Built a small cabin with salvaged materials, solar powered. Drive an old small car with good gas mileage. Create my own organic food from my garden with compost I make, and my own organic beef. Just got coffee roaster and green beans. Piano is my fav instrument to play classical and rock (both of us). Raft. Donate money to things I believe are important. Read anything and so much that the library knew to tell me that a bookmobile comes out my way if it would be more convenient. Could not breath without an internet fix.

I watch jumpers and ride my horses endurance. Own house outside a major metro area; own a small ranch, with many rodeos to attend all summer long. Farthest I went to attend a rodeo was the Cow Palace in San Francisco, best of both worlds. Raise my own beef, ride the fences with aforementioned horses to fix 'em. Put up fences, put up jam. Cut and split wood for the winter. Drive some of my grass fed cattle to market in the Ford with the stock trailer, with country music on board. Own many cowboy hats and dusters. Learned to make bread better than store bought, so bought a wheat grinder. Planted my usual garden, plan to learn to can. Make all food from scratch. Freeze enough of it and farmer's market stuff to last all winter. Finding more time for my other sport, writing. A lot. Almost done building our passive solar home ourselves, with very little outside help, from the ground up. Own guns and am not responsible for any local crime waves. Have subscribed to the New Yorker since I was 15.

Grew up working class, sometimes fairly poor working class. Never had less than 2-3 jobs at a time. First in immediate family to go to college, then law school. Paid for it myself by working through each. Decided I could learn whatever I want, work as hard as I want, and be who I want. Fear me more, I will try anything and am old enough not to care about what others think.

I am even more confused. Who am I? Other than happy that someone like Obama is running for office?

[Debi]

49. You, lady, are awesome!

:hi:

[DeschutesRiver]

61. I rarely hear that!

Usually people aren't as happy for me with my wierd choices as I am.

But my life is sometimes pretty interesting, to put it mildly:)

[Tatiana]

51. Tell me if you wear Birkenstocks first.

Then I can more accurately decide what you are...

:rofl:

[DeschutesRiver]

59. The ones I just ordered from REI today

were Teva Mush Flip Flops; my others are Josef Siebels sandals; now must I fear what that might say about me?:)

NO FEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Erin Elizabeth]

75. Oh I'd love to be your neighbor.

I love to garden and grow my own veggies and herbs. I've got so many cherry tomatoes right now we eat salads every day. And the birds are eating my strawberries, but what the hell, I'm letting them have them.

I'll have about 36 onions to harvest in a few weeks.

[DeschutesRiver]

86. I wish more of my neighbors were like you too!

Don't know how it works for you, but I've found it hard to find people of varied interest sometimes! It was cool to see someone post what you did.

We share the garden with pack rats here (that was a learning curve, too)- I don't want to, but they are very opinionated little buggers:) Here we are at 5k', with a short growing season in the high desert, so it has been a challenge to garden - everything goes in first week or so of June, done by September. Just push everything to grow fast with green manure tea (water + horse manure + time). We had snow on the ground two weeks ago, and there was frost on the ground this morning when we walked the dogs.

I have already salvaged enough free windows and boards to build a greenhouse next year - going to warm it with black painted water barrels and an old woodstove, and revise whatever doesn't work from there. I would love to be harvesting now instead of just being on the verge of planting - well, my tarragon is the only thing that survives the winters all on its own, so it has gone into everything already from bean soups to roasts.

[Erin Elizabeth]

88. Oh I'm in Texas, there's stuff we can grow year-round, but the

summers are brutal.

The things I listed about myself wasn't even scratching the surface, either. I'm a weirdo. I fit into almost every stereotype partially and none completely, LOL!

But really I'm just me. We're all just humans. Not boxes with labels. Good luck with your greenhouse! That sounds awesome!

[DeschutesRiver]

91. I just got done with my election/computer break

and oddly enough, had been watching a show about Texas - one of your big ranches down there, the Pitchfork in Guthrie (I think it was) was just featured on the RFD channel!

And remember, you made an old woman realize again that there are other "wierdos" like me out there:) I wrote a novel in my post, and also just scratched the surface. When I was a kid, I remember wishing I could fit in better, feel things a bit more shallowly, be like other people and follow the leader, and not be so damned different. Think inside the box only, and not freak people out so much by asking "how come we do it this way, why not that way" all the time. Now, being this way is a dream come true:)

Here's hoping you have an awesome growing season, and no substantial drought or wildfires (in this part of Oregon, we live with those concerns too). Take care, live well and happy down there!

[dems_rightnow]

50. Uneducated Elitist

As near as I can tell. ;-)

[Erin Elizabeth]

76. I have a master's degree.

Or is this a joke I'm not getting. That's very possible. LOL!

[dems_rightnow]

81. Yeah, it was a joke.

Sorry if it put you off.

[Erin Elizabeth]

83. It didn't put me off. I'm really hard to offend.

Very thick skin. I just felt silly that I didn't get it. Sorry! :wave:

[hfojvt]

52. by Rodeo, I assume you are talking about the drive - Row-day-O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X12WQ-PiQk8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjL7W6IIPtQ&feature=related

Either that, by "support the arts" you mean "the George Strait tour". Seems a little schizo. :crazy:

[Erin Elizabeth]

79. Never been to the Row-Day-O one, LOL.

[rniel]

53. Cowboys like latte too

n/m

[Vinca]

54. What the hell is a Frito pie???? nt

[dems_rightnow]

65. A bed of Fritos, then

cover them with chili and cheese.

[Vinca]

98. Ohhhhh . . . that sounds good - and one more way to stretch the chili. nt

[proud patriot]

70. LOL

I hate stereotypes , and I don't fit into a box either. :patriot:

[TBF]

71. Well if you're at the rodeo clearly you're here in Houston.

I can't stand the blasted thing but they do love their rodeo here (I am a northern transplant so I drink my lattes quietly and try not to draw attention to myself!).

Good on you for defying sterotypes though. I get sick of people trying to put labels on everyone.

ETA - I just read more of the thread. Dr. Pepper and frito pie? You are definitely a Texan!

[Erin Elizabeth]

78. Nope.

There are several rodeos in my area, made up of two big cities right next to each other and we're to your north and just to the west a bit. Any guesses?

;)

[TBF]

82. Y'all have a rodeo up there in the country?

Heh. Just messin' with you. Despite being a Yankee I've been filled in on the great rivalry.

[Erin Elizabeth]

84. LOL

The Mesquite Rodeo is one of the biggest. And there's a big one in Ft. Worth. And then several smaller ones all over the place.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

101. San Antonio and Austin?

Or is it further north?
:rofl:
Are the rodeos in the western of the two cities? Seems like more of a "rodeo place" than the eastern burg.
:hi:

[JustAnotherGen]

74. This is the best!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[RichardRay]

77. Erin - seek help.

There are good drugs to treat that kind of aberrance. I know this as I live in Wyoming, go to the rodeo, drink latte's, own a hand gun and a shotgun (not just a long gun, a freaking hand gun:-), and am saving up for a Prius (as soon as they have a 4WD model with at least a foot of ground clearance).

[quaker bill]

89. No lattes here

but I have a graduate education and a job that puts me squarely into the Obama demo. Worse yet, in my spare time, I am an artist.

[YDogg]

90. Frito Pie, bay-beeeeeeeee!

:thumbsup:

[Cha]

94. The m$$m will label you and

compartmentalize in their attempt to brainwash the masses.

I don't like latte but I like Obama..

hilary has reason to fear me as I am one of those high information voters.

[badgerpup]

95. Frito pie sounds GOOD...

Could you PM me how you build one? :hi:

I had to look up the difference between latte and cappuccino. With latte you just heat the milk you add to your espresso, but with cappuccino you have to have it frothed...and you can put cinnamon in if you want.

I like cappuccino, so I fall through the cracks...:shrug:

[Califooyah Operative]

96. OMG.

You're dangerous. hehe

[Swamp Rat]

97. Crawfish pie eater here.

:9

[4themind]

99. I might be considered one of those

"well-educated", young, male, african americans, so I guess I fit the MSM's portrayal of his demographic, lol

[mloutre]

100. Bless your heart, darlin', you're just All-American. And I am, too.

[NatBurner]

103. frito pie has all four food groups

u have your
meat: chili
dairy: processed nacho-style cheese
grain: corn chips
veggies: jalapenos (if u use MY recipe)

so-

kick for a balanced diet :)

[Schema Thing]

104. lol, you ARE confused

frito-pie and lattes? that's a recipe for loneliness.


:P