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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:18 AM
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Hillary lost because she ran a poor campaign and Obama ran a very good one.
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 07:33 AM by Botany
It was not sexism that made her lose it was the fact Mark Penn didn't know how
to count delegates.

Yes, sexism exists but to blame Hillary's loss 100% on it is just plain stupid.
And now for team Hillary to poison the well w/ charges of sexixm strikes me as
being a very poor sport.

She started w/ a very high name recognition, $200 million in the bank, and very
well oiled political machine but Obama beat her fair and square ... time to move on.

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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:31 AM
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1. Governor Dean said there was a lot of sexism.
The Press and the TV pundits hated her. How dare a women try for the highest office that is just for white men. They know that Obama can be handled and there will be a cry of racism but the white guy can win. Obama had a lot of help. They didn't climb all over him. If Hillary were a male she would have been thought of as a great campaigner and all of you would have had lots of praise for the way he handled himself.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:35 AM
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2. Dean ALSO said there had been lots of racism.
Did you miss that part?
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:37 AM
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3. 2 things
1) male or female it makes no difference Hillary ran a very poor campaign.

2) Yes, you can find cases of sexism in the media but the media also "kept her
campaign alive" long after it mathematically over for her.
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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:42 AM
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5. Male or Female - She Lost because of bad, disorganized, short-sighted campaigning
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 07:43 AM by futureliveshere
That is what everyone should say. Not tag gender to it.

edited for typo.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 08:09 AM
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6. I disagree....
...the press and tv pundits, if they do indeed hate her, don't hate her because she's a woman. It's the way she treated them when she assumed she was inevitable, and then when it got ugly for her she started going on all the shows and actually talking to voters.

Another vote for lousy campaign.
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 08:11 AM
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7. LOL..yeah the black guy can be controlled..after all he's only a slave..and we da masters!
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Hola Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:38 PM
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10. If you can't stand the heat...
Yes, there was sexism, but Maggie Tachther and Golda Meir didn't whine.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:40 AM
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4. Hillary ran a "terrible" campaign
I am in Iowa, and we got to see it up close and personal for a very long time..
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 02:09 PM
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8. if hillary can't win the nomination because of "sexism"
how the hell can she win the GE? How 'bout it, hillshills? Inquiring minds want to know.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:30 PM
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9. kick
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