Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

What do you think of an Obama-Bloomberg ticket?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:53 AM
Original message
What do you think of an Obama-Bloomberg ticket?
What do folks think of that possibility?

From CBS News:

If the central doubt about Obama is his lack of experience (and, in particular, executive experience), Bloomberg would provide a degree of reassurance. Picking him would substantiate and reinforce Obama’s message of pragmatism and post-partisanship. And he would go a long way toward mitigating Obama’s problem with Jewish voters, a dilemma brought on by a combination of his association with the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, the nuthouse rumors that he is a closet Muslim, and his willingness to talk to anti-Israel crackpots such as Iran’s Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/05/23/politics/horserace/entry4122871.shtml
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:56 AM
Response to Original message
1. Bad idea. What's he going to bring, New York?
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:43 AM
Response to Reply #1
17. Florida, perhaps
I think he'd be a big help there.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:53 AM
Response to Reply #17
22. I could see that. Better to pick Wexler from Florida, he could run in '16.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:57 AM
Response to Original message
2. not gonna happen and I don't think it's a good ticket (Bloomberg's lack of foreign policy exp. among
other things).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:21 AM
Response to Reply #2
29. What BklynChick said.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
floridablue Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:58 AM
Response to Original message
3. A Republifan w/no National campaign experience
Why do we keep wanting to put Republicans on the ticket? They would bring little, and we don't owe them anything. Find a candidate who involkes party loyalty so they will turn out and vote.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:35 AM
Response to Reply #3
16. I don't want him either, but he never "really" was a
Repubulican.

He was a lifelong Dem. and switched to Repub. to get on the ticket for the mayor's position, and has now
formally become an Independant.

I like him, but I think he would be an awful choice.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:44 AM
Response to Reply #3
18. Bloomberg leaves Republican Party
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DramaOnHwy61 Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:11 AM
Response to Reply #18
27. turncoat. Next please?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:59 AM
Response to Original message
4. I don't
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:00 AM
Response to Original message
5. I think a McCain/Bloomberg ticket is more likely
Let's find a Democrat for the other half of the Democratic ticket.
:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hola Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:12 AM
Response to Reply #5
9. If so
all Dems should rejoice. Bloomberg is very much pro-choice, pro-stem cells, anti-death penalty, anti-gun.

McCain already faces problems from GOP conservatives over these issues - if he's on McCains the ticket, they will sit this one out!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 09:19 AM
Response to Reply #5
40. and a progressive-leaning Democrat -- someone who NEVER supported the IWR while we're at it
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DramaOnHwy61 Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:01 AM
Response to Original message
6. Bad Idea. Think USA not Israel.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:25 AM
Response to Reply #6
12. Please explain ..
This looks pretty anti-Semitic to me. I hope I'm wrong.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DramaOnHwy61 Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:34 AM
Response to Reply #12
15. please explain...
how a US president which puts US interests first could be "anti-Israel" let alone "anti-semitic".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:45 AM
Response to Reply #15
19. What does "Think USA Not Israel" have to do with Bloomberg as a VP choice?
What does that mean?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DramaOnHwy61 Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:56 AM
Response to Reply #19
24. read the OP, and you'll understand. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:10 AM
Response to Reply #24
26. Obama is probably as pro-Israel as Bloomberg
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 07:10 AM by oberliner
Republican spin aside.

Here are Obama's actual words:

As President, I will do everything in my power to help Israel protect itself from these and other threats. I will make sure that Israel can defend itself from any attack, whether it comes from as close as Gaza or as far as Tehran. The defense cooperation between the United States and Israel has been a model of success, and I believe that it can be deepened and it can be strengthened.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:03 AM
Response to Original message
7. Hate it
I don't think Bloomberg brings anything to the ticket.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hola Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:09 AM
Response to Original message
8. Excellent
Excellent choice, Bloomberg is very popular, not just in NYC, but across the nation.

Only problems - (1) Iraq War - Bloomberg originally supported it.
(2) Trade - Very much pro-free trade.

If the election is about Iraq - Bloomberg is not so good a choice
If it's about the Economy - Bloomberg is a good choice
If it's about post-partisanship - Bloomberg is an excellent choice
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:18 AM
Response to Original message
10. Gallup Poll - Jewish Voters: Obama 61%/McCain 32%
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 06:25 AM by Douglas Carpenter


But no I'm sure an Obama/Bloomberg ticket is not going to happen.

1. New York is a safe Democratic state anyway

2. This would not help Sen. Obama with small town and midsize city voters

3. It would not help in his effort to carry Western, Southern or Border states.

4. It would only reenforce the "latte drinking" urbane elite image.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:46 AM
Response to Reply #10
21. Could help secure Florida
That might be a critical state.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:21 AM
Response to Original message
11. not much.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:28 AM
Response to Original message
13. I doubt it will happen
and I doubt Bloomberg would accept even if he were offered a chance. The truth is Bloomberg does very little to help Obama.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:33 AM
Response to Original message
14. No, thanks. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:45 AM
Response to Original message
20. i think an ethical conservative,if he or she exists,might be good
obviously no dlc or neocon
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:54 AM
Response to Original message
23. I think not.
I reject the theory that business experience is at all relevant to being president of the republic. Bloomberg re-assures who? Outside of NYC he is unknown. Bloomberg delivers the NYC votes, which are going to go 90% Obama anyway, to Obama. Bloomberg plays about as well to the same yahoos Clinton contends can't vote for the Black man as Obama does: they can't vote for the New York Jew either.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:13 AM
Response to Reply #23
28. I think there are some "Hillary, McCain, Obama" voters
(Voters who (for whatever reason) rank the candidates in the order indicated)

Bloomberg might edge them away from McCain and over to Obama.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 08:25 AM
Response to Reply #28
38. So he brings 100,000 votes to the table?
Obama can do better than that. Clinton would bring more than that herself.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:08 AM
Response to Original message
25. Bloomberg doesnt want the job, he supports any ticket that gets the job done and was leaning Hagel,
But I think the CW right now is Richardson, on a ton of fronts, but most notably about geography and the unusual map Obama is going to run, coupled with foreign and domestic experience, Richardson has solid working relations in washington, so a good blend of old washington and new clean leadership.

Richardson also has the personality to keep up with Obama.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:25 AM
Response to Original message
30. As New York mayors go, I liked John Lindsay. He's no longer with us,
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 07:27 AM by Old Crusoe
and considered in a line that includes Beame, Koch, and Giuliani, Bloomberg isn't that bad, but he only is mayor because he knew the path to the Democratic nomination for that job was blocked.

He made a better Republican than most Republicans, but his constituency was decidedly more liberal than most Republicans' districts, and now he's bolted the GOP to stand as an independent.

He's got lots of money.

He's sincere about public service but is also a big city politician, so you get the mix of expediency with ideology (moderate-or-so).

Obama has scores of great Democrats to choose from who will bring more to the table for both the November election and to governing after it.

Bloomberg isn't "vice presidential," exactly. He strikes me as a top-dog, board room executive-type ppragmatist not given to taking orders.

It's probably odd for Bloomberg, a capable politician, to look out the window and see John McCain, essentially a walking corpse, with the Republican nomination for president.

If Obama wanted to contend for Florida he might do better electorally with Bob Graham than with Bloomberg, as Graham still retains considerable support in the redder counties and would not lose any ground for Obama in the alread-bluer counties.

Bloomberg doesn't help Obama in states with significant Hispanic populations, where Bill Richardson, for example, almost certainly would.

Etc. Too many great Democrats are available to force consideration of Bloomberg for the ticket, IMO. Which isn't to say Obama won't make his decision on his own instincts and preferences; I'm only offering praise for existing and available Democratic choices instead.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:28 AM
Response to Original message
31. Republicans are not eligible.
No thank you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:28 AM
Response to Original message
32. I like Obama-Bloomingdale's
We'd capture women's votes.
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:30 AM
Response to Original message
33. Some of you O people sure do love suggesting a Repuke s for the VP
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 07:31 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
and then have the balls to call us Clinton Dems "repukes".....

amazing
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:39 AM
Response to Original message
34. I think it's a monumentally stupid idea, and that it would never happen in a million years.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:40 AM
Response to Original message
35. Experience has run this country into the ground. Obama's VP will play a large role in DEFINING Obama
Bloomberg would help the GOP define Obama as just another politician and would severely damage the change message. Plus, I think someone like Bloomberg being a heartbeat away from the Presidency would inflame the Middle East. Do we really want to do that?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:43 AM
Response to Original message
36. No. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:51 AM
Response to Original message
37. It's gonna be Webb. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 09:17 AM
Response to Original message
39. The top of the ticket is fine -- but Bloomberg? Lousy realpolitik, even worse in principle
I would be EXTREMELY disappointed in Obama if he were to pick Bloomberg, or ANYONE AS BAD AS BLOOMBERG to be on the ticket.

How about a woman who NEVER supported the Iraq War Resolution?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 09:19 AM
Response to Original message
41. ROFL - Overwhelming Democratic Year.....
And some want to pick a Republican as VP.

Classic.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 01st 2024, 01:11 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC