The Michelle Obama rumor was started by a strong Hillary backer

[thewiseguy]

Since this is DU I am not going to put a link for Larry Johnson's dump.

I am sorry to post this link however which is pretty much when this ugly rumor surfaced back two weeks ago:

http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/e7ba27ab-7e83-4ecb-bef1-7e55cde4f8c3

So it has been 2 weeks since Larry Johnson who is a backer for Hillary has claimed that there is such a damning tape against Michelle Obama. He is using the presence of such a tape as an excuse for Hillary's stay in this race. Would you not think if this was remotely true then this tape would have been released by now?

What is more sad is to see some Hillary supporters on DU, repeat Sean Hannity's talking points or accuse the members of not being concerned about the presence of some mythical tape!

Here is more on Larry Johnson's profile in wikipedia:

2008
In 2008, Johnson has emerged as a staunch supporter of Hillary Clinton and a strong critic of Barack Obama. He has "briefed Senator Clinton" and has dedicated several blog entries to praising her, even writing that "she is gracious, charming, and can laugh at herself."<32><33><34> He claimed on May 8 that "Hillary has more popular votes."<35> On March 30 he wrote that "Hillary has not used invective or insult of any kind against Obama or anyone associated with his campaign. Hillary has fought to eliminate such vile talk from the public arena."<36>
Johnson has devoted several blog entries to examining Obama's past and has concluded that Obama has "Memory Loss", "is lying about significant portions of his life", and is "deliberately deceptive and misleading."<37><38><39> Johnson has asserted that "Obama and his campaign are working hard to obfuscate and cover up".<40>
On May 14, 2008, after Obama appeared to lock up the Democratic nomination, Johnson wrote "Hillary needs to stay in the campaign till the end because by the time August rolls around the damage to Barack will be so significant that rational folks will realize he is unelectable notwithstanding the mess Republicans have made of things. My advice? Patience. Let Barack have his codpiece, 'Mission Accomplished' moment. Like George Bush, he will rue his strutting and preening and declaring premature victory. Reality will intrude."<41>
On May 16, 2008, Johnson reported having contact with three Republican insiders and another unspecified source who claim the existence of a videotape of Michelle Obama, Barack Obama's wife, speaking at the Trinity United Church of Christ and using the term "whitey" on multiple occasions."<42> Johnson reported that the tape would be worth $1 million to anyone who could provide a copy to an unnamed billionaire Republican." <43>

Mods please do not close this thread as I am trying to alarm the members here of this conspiracy against Obama.

[KittyWampus]

1. Johnson isn't really a Hillary backer, IMO. He's doing divide/conquer psy-op

And I will say one more time-

IF some crap comes out I hope the Leftwing blogosphere shoves it so far up Stone's ass it comes out Rove's mouth.

[thewiseguy]

4. You would change your mind if you visited his shit blog

[KittyWampus]

5. It's easy enough to pretend you support Hillary with the ulterior motive of causing dissension

within the Democratic party.

Think about it- it's all the GOP has got.

[thewiseguy]

13. You can even give Hillary money from his freaking blog

He even started supporting Hillary before the primaries started.

[guruoo]

26. Now we understand why you must hate him so.

[thewiseguy]

27. I hate him for good reasons. As for the donation link....

I was supporting my claims that he backs Hillary Clinton. He was backing her before the primaries started.

[guruoo]

54. Backing her before the primaries started? So?

What's your point?

[99th_Monkey]

16. I think you are correct. Witness Rush's "operation chaos" call for violence in the streets of Denver

these people are certainly not "above" planting psyops in the so-called "Hillary supporter" camp,
attempting to sow so much disunity among Dems as to distract from McSame's sorry-ass campaign fuck-ups,
and from McSame's lobbyist issues, etc.

This is the GOP's ONLY chance and they are going for it big-time with Hillbots on the front lines.

un-fucking-believable.

[thewiseguy]

25. Larry Johnson was backing Hillary before the primaries even started

This is no operation chaos material. We here have a Hannity like character who cant see a black man get elected for president.

[guruoo]

55. You saying he's a racist?

[Swamp Rat]

9. yep

[mamalone]

2. Ummmmmmmmmm............

You know we have all heard about this ad nauseum. Thanks for the effort, but I don't really think we need to be "alarmed" about it. If it comes out it comes out, and we will all deal with it. personally I think it is just bluff.

[billyoc]

3. Too bad one bad apple has to ruin it for the res--

Oh, I couldn't even get through that sentence!

:rofl:

[NashVegas]

6. You Won't Link to Johnson's Blog But RW Central Is Okay?

Good grief.

[jefferson_dem]

11. Johnson's Blog RW Central

Same fucking thing. Have a look-see for yourself.

[scheming daemons]

17. Johnson *IS* right-wing central.... He's a freeper in disguise... and you bought it....

[Hansel]

24. He's also a filthy mouthed racist pig. He's pretty disgusting. eom

[jbnow]

31. A google search took me to Johnson's Blog once

and I swear I'd never seen such hate in my life. I didn't see pro-Hillary on the couple threads I read, I saw Obama hate. HATE
It wasn't normal insults we see here for Clinton or Obama. It wasn't even like Obama bashing and lies on rw sites. It was calling horrible names and the danger he is and he will never be president and the great thing if he wins nomination is to see the arrogant monster crushed and humiliated. Only much worse

I've seen Johnson's articles in other places since he is seen as credible and they are twisted lies with himself as the source

[jesus_of_suburbia]

7. And it's a lie... pure crap. Michelle would NEVER say that. Don't blame Hillary though.

Keep your eyes on beating McCain.

These lies are disgusting.

[WeDidIt]

8. Larry Johnson is REALLY a NeoCon

and he's found a niche to appeal too in order to divide and conquer.

[AZBlue]

10. If it were true, they'd be showing the video already.

'Nuff said.
Thanks for the info!!

[woolldog]

12. It's highly doubtful.

I just don't hear AAs use the term w---y. That's a term white people think AAs use.

[vaberella]

34. this is the thought that crossed my mind

princeton educated, Harvard husband... there are far different terms used. I find it a bit dubious. And if it was true, I'd be surprised it hasnt' come out.

[Youphemism]

14. Only republicans think black people still use "whitey"

You may as well try to convince people she referred to honkies while getting an afro.

Mr. Hannity, FYI, the term would be "cracka." Your unhipness will be your undoing.

LOL! Whitey. See if you can't get your money back from "The Huggy Bear School of Ebonics."

[KittyWampus]

15. Maybe someone at Trinity has the actual last name of "Whitey".

;)

[Elspeth]

20. His last name is "Ford"

And he played baseball. :)

[whistler162]

51. or Herzog

he also played baseball.

[Elspeth]

57. Ah yes!

Almost forgot.

I love baseball. :)

[Turn CO Blue]

18. LOL! DUzy material for sure!

[stillcool]

19. That was good...

"The Huggy Bear School of Ebonics". :rofl:

[redstate_democrat]

38. That's what is so stupid. I don't think I have ever heard a real black person ever say "whitey".

That is some shit you see in a movie that a white screenwriter wrote thinking black people actually say it. A black person would sooner call a white person "motherfucker", "punk bitch", "punk ass motherfucker" before "whitey" even crosses their mind. And Michelle is just too classy to even go there. Who would be STUPID enough to say something like that? Even J. Wright didn't say "whitey".

It's sort of like, "hey bro man, what's happenin', give me five on the black side, let's boogy on down and get on the town".

Black people don't TALK like that.

GEESH. America really needs to get educated about the average black person. If you're gonna make up lies, at least make them CREDIBLE. You're one size fits all lies out of the old school playbook about politicians won't work on Obama.

[beac]

53. But the free action figure is theirs to keep as a gift just for trying the program!

(and yes, that is an actual Huggy Bear action figure... I went Googling for an photo of HB, never dreaming what the interwebs would deliver... :) )

[chill_wind]

59. Oh maybe it was "why'd he- ....?"

As in something like "why'd he(Bush)let the Katrina victims down?"

Got that one from the freep discussion. They're always thinking ahead: They are fully expecting to be debunked.
Even THEY know the media messenger (Roger Stone) has no MSM cred and is regarded anywhere but Fox as... political sleaze.

[polmaven]

21. Eeeewww!

i clicked on the link but couldn't read the story 'cause right there on the top was a big picture of a smiling FRED THOMPSON! I didn't know he did that...It's been a while since i've seen anything that made my eyes HURT that much....

Thanks wiseguy....eeeewwwww!

[jgraz]

22. Like Jerry Brown's drug parties in 92

Whisper, whisper, whisper.

[guruoo]

23. "On July 23, 2005, when Johnson spoke to the nation on behalf of Democrats..."

in the party's weekly radio address, he said that he believes a letter of recommendation from Republican Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) helped to "open doors" for him at the CIA.<2> A registered Republican who supported President Bush in 2000, in his Democratic Radio Address broadcast on July 23, 2005, Johnson criticized the Bush administration for their role in the outing of CIA operative Valerie Plame.<3> In addition to his differences with Republicans in the Plame matter, Johnson is also an outspoken opponent of the Iraq War<4> He was also featured in the 2004 political documentary Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism.<5> Since Robert Novak's controversial disclosure of Valerie Plame as a CIA operative in July 2003, Johnson has contributed to public discourse on intelligence matters, often sparking further controversy. He has been interviewed by both the mass media and the alternative media and published commentary on the Plame affair, the controversy concerning Mary McCarthy, and the resignation of Porter Goss as Director of Central Intelligence."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_C._Johnson

[Connie_Corleone]

28. If this "alleged" video is what I think it is, then these idiots are going to look like damn fools.

We'll know at 9am tomorrow.

[thewiseguy]

29. The rumor has been out for 2 weeks. There is nothing.

[Phoonzang]

30. What do you think it is?

[FVZA_Colonel]

32. Personally, I'd imagine that if it's even close, she's saying "why'd he" instead of whitey.

eom.

[Connie_Corleone]

37. That's what I'm hearing.

She says "Why'd he" NOT Whitey. She was referring to Bush and his failed policies in Iraq, Katrina, etc.

on edit: Besides, black people don't use the term "whitey" anymore. That's so 70's.

[Teaser]

40. Is that something she actually said?

I'd like to see that speech, if so.

[ErinBerin84]

42. oh my god, haha.

Why'd he-gate!

[vaberella]

39. oh shoot...

Now that I could believe. Crap...we'd have to hear the full tape. That's like all those youtube tapes where you can't tell or those songs where you sing all the wrong words. And the acoustics aren't always that good.

But what really got me, is that this congregation has White members. Even the Catholic Priest and Rev. Wright have never used "whitey"----it doesn't make sense that Michelle Obama would use it even if she was racist, which I don't believe is the case.

[Connie_Corleone]

44. I know. It's crazy!

So Michelle is just going to rant against "Whitey" with white members in the church listening??

Rightwingers and desperate Hillary supporters are smoking some strong shit to believe that.

[vaberella]

33. I'd also like to know what you think it is....

[vaberella]

35. Okay huge question...

when is this alleged "whitey" tape comnig out?

I read Monday on one site, on here a poster said "three days" and then I read August in another, also read October. Do we have a day?

Or is this like the claims that Obama is involved in some gay murder scandal.

[thewiseguy]

36. When you have a rumor then the specifics are made up.

There is no such tape. Even Roger Stone does not know who has it. Even Larry Johnson does not know who has this tape.

This is all bullshit started by a Hillary backer to justify her stay in the race.

[KittyWampus]

43. at least with Santa Claus, we have a set date.

[vaberella]

45. Good point.

Why even start it? To get the tongues wagging I guess.

I guess we have three dates to wonder about this alleged tape.

If I don't hear anything by Thursday on it, then I figure it's a bust and won't worry my head on it in August or October. At that point Hillary would/shoudl be endorsing Obama so if it doesn't come out in the next three days or this week...it's a fraud or Hillary will look like a fool when endorsing Obama and this is true.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's untrue already, but I never know what sort of surprises await us until Nov. Ever since Huckabee, Clinton, and Trotta spouted their non-sense, I've been nervous.

[redstate_democrat]

47. This is a ploy to chill the superdelegates. Hillary NEEDS to teh superdelegates

to chill to give her time. She doesn't want to be thoroughly embarassed on Tuesday and doesn't want a ball to drop. She needs to time and circulating a false rumor to make the superdelegates wait is what she is doing. Who cares if the "evidence" never comes forth because she will be achieving her goal of making them wait in the meantime. She is HOPING something real comes out. She is hoping that the superdelegates "wake up".

Never gonna happen.

[newmajority]

41. Larry Johnson is a Bush Crime Family terrorist thug.

Hillbots, you really gotta ask yourselves.... Do you WANT friends like him??

[blogslut]

46. Death Squad Larry?

Quelle surprise.

After all, he's probably the one that started the madrassas rumor:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/11/193122/161/713/513899

I wouldn't worry about old Flowbee. After, it's not like he can distinguish one brown person from another.

[thewiseguy]

49. He should be thrown in jail for his accusations and smear campaign

[casus belli]

48. The Golden question: Why would the leaker use this never was to push the story...

...instead of a more common outlet like Hannity or Drudge, etc? The answer: because it will be easy to throw this away if it doesn't stick without permanently damaging one of their star players. They can just say "we were mislead by this guy, he claimed his sources were airtight" and essentially wash their hands of it. Not so if they use one of their star hitters to leak something they know has no legs.

The most insidious part of all this, is that they know the rumor itself is good enough to fool a couple percent of people or better into spreading the BS (even if it's disproven) ala the bogus Muslim charges that STILL circulate to this day among low information voters.

[vaberella]

50. I agree, apparently 74% of the US population believes

Obama is Muslim.

What kills me, is that who benefited from and used it when she knew the truth and even attended mass with Obama? Hillary Clinton. Damnit, that woman annoys me. I'm sorry to say I'm starting to think that some of the Hillary supporters are coming out of the calculated hate-filled implications that Hillary herself has used to her advantage in order to get rid of another candidate.

[beac]

56. Yes, the Muslim with the unacceptable church... LOL.

Soon we'll be hearing he's sacrificing live chickens while wearing a PETA sweatshirt.

Ridiculous.


How can so many of our fellow Americans be so dumb?

[yodermon]

52. Larry johnson has been a HUGE disappointment to me.

He was so awesome during the Plame affair, trial etc; he defended Valerie Plame before Congress; he's gone on Keith's show to skewer bushco countless times... and now, this filth on his blog? It is quite troubling, puzzling and strange. Joe Wilson to a lesser extent - his articles have at least remained basically civil - but the two are definitely in the same camp, and it does make one wonder just what the hell is going on.

[vaberella]

58. Well we're supposed to hear in about 9 hours...

If nothing in 9 hours then we should hear something within 63 hours. Then if nothing, we have 2 months, then if nothing another 2 months. Ugh!! These idiots aren't even organizing their "explosive" release properly....does this hint of another badly run campaign...dare I even bother connecting the two?

[papapi]

60. Larry Johnson has rocks in his head.

If anything like this truly exists, it would have come out long ago, probably during her 'proud of my country' gaffe. They're firing blanks.

[vaberella]

61. That's true...

Or even during her whole "assasination" gaffe. Or any of his. Why wait until the nominee is selected? They could have taken him out, so to speak, months ago. This rumor has beeen circulating for a month. So even if they got it a month ago and they were verifying sources, when the whole Michigan/Florida thing went to the DNC---they could have come with this news and stopped all that stuff from counting and send it all toe Obama. Also any delegates left would go straight to Obama. End it there. This is just not adding up with so many loopholes.