DONNA BRAZILE: Clinton Camp Refused Obama 'Olive Branch'

[Segami]

The Clinton camp can spin the FL & MI compromise in their favor all they want right into la-la land, but the reality to this episode was her REAL intention which reared it's ugly head this weekend for all the world to see. Its time to put this cat out the door and say good night folks, it's been fun. See you in November.


" According to Brazile, the Obama campaign had enough votes to get a fifty-fifty split of the Michigan delegation, a result that would have greatly advantaged the Obama campaign and minimized the delegate gains Clinton garnered from Florida. However, the Obama camp passed on pulling the trigger on that deal in favor of the less favorable 69-59 split that the Michigan delegation was proposing.

Brazile, who was taken aback at the lack of effort made by the Clinton campaign to "cut a deal" or otherwise "come to the uncommitted superdelegates" in the room, said: "He also could have won on a crucial vote on this Michigan proposal to split the delegation 50-50. And rather than cause a ruckus they gave in. He had the votes. and the Clinton campaign never took the olive branch."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/01/dncs-brazile-says-clinton_n_104553.html

[tekisui]

1. Some did. Ickes lead the others over the cliff.

[mzmolly]

3. I wondered as much.

:(

[Segami]

6. Yup. The good ol ' Lemmings 'charge straight over the cliff and they didn't even see it coming.

Sad indeed.

[bluestateguy]

2. It's time for Donna to endorse

I understand that she had to stay neutral because of this committee, but that's over now, and so are the primaries.

[tekisui]

5. Obama has to get 30 in the next to days for SD and MT to put

him over 2118. She will likely be one of the 30.

[harun]

7. She will. She has gone on the record to say if the Super's over

turn the delegate winner she will leave the Democratic party. She isn't the only one.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

14. Count me in, or should I say out.

[Raine]

19. Damned right, they do that & I'm OUT!

[2rth2pwr]

35. This is weird, Obama supporters threaten to not vote and to leave the party,

and there is no clamoring for immediate ts?

[Raine]

48. Hahaha I see "IGNORED" replied to me

don't know or care what you said.

[mckeown1128]

51. You aren't missing much...

just the usual hypocritical BS.

[Eurobabe]

52. me too

we are good judges of character. :toast:

[SoCalDem]

53. Why. that little two-timing Ignored.. he/she/it is on my list too :)

eating MY cheetos & drinking MY Mountain dew with the other cellar-dwellers, and now I find out it's mooching from YOU too :rofl:

[Segami]

13. She will but only after the last elections on Tuesday as she has made it clear that she will wait

until ALL 50 (or 48) states have voted before she endorses. I'm sure we'll see it all come together with the delegates coming out and announcing their support for Obama after Tuesday, if not, ON TUESDAY night when Obama gives his speech.

[GodlessBiker]

18. Today she said, "Wednesday is a new day." She will endorse then.

[Whisp]

4. she doesn't want a branch, she wants the whole orchard.

[harun]

8. And the deed to the farm (n/t)

[Kittycat]

39. No, she wants someone else to be 'responsible' for the farm, because if she destroys the orchard,

she can just walk away and point to the owner as if it's his fault.

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

9. K&R. Great post.!

[LakeSamish706]

10. Now thats a real surprise that they didn't take the olive branch.. NOT...

Having watched the dramatics of the RBC yesterday, with the so-called Clinton supporters in the gallery heckling anything and everything that went Obama's way does not give me much hope of a truce, either on DU or in the Clinton campaign. The reality is going to come soon though, cause I think that the SD's will come out in force for Obama in this next week.

I think once this fracas is over that some of the huge Democratic names better get there asses out on the floor talking about how we divorce ourselves of the DLC and all of it's members from the Democratic party.

[yourguide]

11. It was exactly as I suspected...

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

12. Hillary needs a swift kick in the ass and shown the door. I'm SO sick of her.

[az chela]

22. I think that most people are sick to dead of the whiney hillary

and her husband with the big ego and the bad temper.We need a new day,not the same old same old.Why cant she admit she is a has been????????

[vaberella]

54. Watch out az chela...you might be accused of saying "whitey"

"whiney" = "whitey"----we know how people with too much wax in the ears spin things. ^_^ Good post.

[Adelante]

15. How to make friends and influence people

Whew.

[Condem]

16. Segami. Thanks for the insight.

What were they looking for?

[Segami]

47. Firstly, this was NEVER about Hillary's newly found compassionate fairness to seat Florida

and Michigan delegates, it was always about Hillary RE-DEFINING what the NEW rules will consist of as long as those NEW changed rules favored Hillary to which this NEW strategy began soon after she suffered a humbling defeat to Obama in South Carolina. Afterwards, her husband began rallying the faithful at a rally in Missouri by saying that the campaign was now moving onto Super Tuesday states, and notably, Florida as well. The foundation to change the game rules was being layed in an attempt by the Clintons to seat these delegates later because the contingencies of the moment meant that the decision would favor Hillary. Basically, Hillary's plan all along was to pull a fast one on the other candidates by not taking her name off the ballot. It was an early, conscience strategy by her even though all major candidates (including herself) signed a pledge not to "campaign or participate" in any primary or caucus prior to Feb. 5th except for Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina. The other major candidates adopted what seems like the only reasonable interpretation of the pledge and pulled their names from the ballot. But Hillary didn't, thus guaranteeing her strategy to win outright in Michigan.

All the candidates agreed to these rules including Hillary, but now, with very few options left, she wants the rules changed and is determine to excite a ' lynch mob ' mentality by telling the voters of Florida & Michigan that the DNC is trying to screw the will of people's cast vote. It was no mistake or oversight by Hillary that she left her name on the ballot since it was her plan & intention early on to do this all along. This should come as no surprise, its always about the Clintons to which they believe always come first above all else.

Lets wait and see what Hillary will do within a week after Tuesday's last elections and more probable SD's announcing their support for Obama putting him over the top and handing him the nomination. Will she publicly withdraw and pledge her unwavering support for Obama or will she NOT withdraw and continue her campaign as part of another possible strategy now referred to as the " Briarpatch Strategy "? We'll soon find out the true nature of her strategy and intent with the DNC Rules & Bylaws Committee (RBC).


" By leaning toward implementing a compromise "split the baby" decision tomorrow on how to allocate the Michigan and Florida delegates -- a compromise that nearly all observers see as a setback for Clinton -- the DNC Rules & Bylaws Committee ("RBC"), the Obama campaign and other well-meaning Democrats will actually be throwing Brer Clinton into the briar patch -- giving her exactly the excuse she wants to continue her Quixotic campaign.

..."The rules meeting is a trap. Clinton wants the RBC to give Florida and Michigan not the full votes she is fruitlessly advocating for and which would in any case not translate to a win for her but the half-vote compromise she is publicly advocating against. When the committee does award half-votes, she will have cause to extend her campaign through the summer, guaranteeing a divided Convention and possibly killing Democrats' chances of capturing the Oval Office in November (and of preventing pro-life , pro-Imperial Presidency Republicans from replacing the two remaining Democrats on the nine-member Supreme Court).


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6183354

[JPZenger]

17. k and r nt

[mamalone]

20. Donna Brazile is a beautiful woman...

She has one of the loveliest faces I have ever seen:)

Besides that she is one smart woman. I haven't always like everything she's said, but I sure do agree with most of what she is saying these days.

[quantass]

23. Yea, she has a very nice look to her -- the silver gray w/the face is very interesting to look at

and clearly very intelligent. I didnt realise she is a superdelegate until a month back...i figured she was a news correspondents to the MSM like Rachel Maddow....

and speaking of good looking ladies in the news my favs are:
1) Maria Bartiromo (CNBC)
2) Naamua Delaney (CNN Live stream)
3) Lyla Feng (CNN Weather)
4) Rachel Maddow (something about a cute lez is just hot)
5) Donna Brazile (she's got a great face!)
6) Connie Chung (in her prime)

[mamalone]

25. Well, you've obviously put a lot more thought into this than I have!

;)

[Muttocracy]

43. Brazile was Gore's campaign manager, right? nt

[Raine]

21. Now I wish that Obama had ground them into

the dirt and stomped the life out of them. :grr:

[guruoo]

24. NSFD...

Never Swiftboat a Fellow Democrat

[avenger64]

26. Who needs a branch when you can have the whole tree?

She's leading in the popular vote, and she's polling stronger against McCain in the key swing states FL, OH, and PA. The superdelegates need to come to their senses.

To the convention!

[hendo]

29. Please stop

FL and MI are getting seated and Obama is still winning.

It is time to support the nominee and prepare for Nov.

[Colobo]

30. It's over. Stop.

[avenger64]

31. Not mathematically.

Not until the last vote is counted on the convention floor. The democratic party has to maintain some semblance of fairness and democracy, though they did their best not to yesterday.

I'll stop in August. Denver, baby! To the convention!

[cliffordu]

40. I love it when PIZZA gets delivered before my very eyes!!

[MattBaggins]

46. She is not leading in the popular vote

Claiming she is will not make it so.

[NYC_SKP]

33. You mean her 36 state popular count? Read on...

She leads in pop vote minus 14 states, per this item.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/1/16747/37393/979/526838

Include these estimates for the full 50 states.

[cliffordu]

38. Do you think she'll be able to buy a ticket?

[AZBlue]

27. Yeah, that's the signs of a good politician - sticking your fingers in your ear & refusing

to compromise.
Gawd, she's a nightmare.

[Beacool]

28. Remind me, is Brazille still "uncommitted"?

:eyes:

[NotThisTime]

32. Until Tuesday at 10pm

[Auntie Bush]

34. Wow...look at all the Good Democrats that would leave the party if

the SD do something they don't like. What a bunch of hypocrites! What about the SCJ McCain would pick? Ending the war etc.? Oh that doesn't matter any more. :rofl:

[madfloridian]

36. Kicked and recommended

:hi:

[anamnua]

37. Donna Brazile = Katherine Harris.

Gawd, that smug self-satisfied smirk turns my stomach.

[tnlefty]

44. You're equating her to Katherine Harris???!!!???

The Katherine Harris who knew that Choice Point was stripping African Americans and other democrats from the voting roles in FL?

As I live and breathe I never thought that I would ever see any democrat compared to that conniving, vote suppressing, callous piece of work from FL.

[Major Hogwash]

50. They get a new bus driver every day at Hillary's Bus Company.

They're throwing everyone under the bus these days, except for the drivers.

[JVS]

49. Oh, now she's uppity too? Great

:eyes:

[joeybee12]

41. Yes, Donna Brazile, a homophobic liar...

...who ran a lousy campaign for al Gore...like I believe her.

[anonymous171]

42. Because the Clintons did so much for Gore.

:sarcasm:

[anamnua]

45. Please remember that Brazile's mismanagement of

Gore's campaign cost us the presidency in 2000.