"Michelle Obama is fair game"

[Elspeth]

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/05/25/michelle_obama_is_fair_game?mode=PF

Michelle Obama is fair game

By Jeff Jacoby, Globe Columnist | May 25, 2008

ON THE website of the Tennessee Republican Party is a short video in which residents of Nashville talk about the pride they feel for their country. One man, for example, mentions his esteem for the First and Second Amendments. A Vanderbilt graduate student says he was proud when Ronald Reagan told Mikhail Gorbachev to tear down the Berlin Wall - "and I was prouder when it came down." A young professional woman extols the "academic and job opportunities that women have in this country." A police officer named Juan says he is proud of having immigrated to the United States, learned English, and become a citizen of this "land of opportunity and the best country in the world."

The video makes its point by alternating these upbeat comments with clips of Michelle Obama telling two different audiences in February: "For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country." In an understated press release announcing the video, the state GOP welcomed Mrs. Obama to Nashville and remarked: "The Tennessee Republican Party has always been proud of America."

One would have to have skin of microscopic thinness to take offense at so gentle and indirect a critique. No surprise, then, that Barack Obama took offense, reacting as if his bride had been slimed by slurs akin to those that enraged Andrew Jackson when he ran for president. (During the campaign of 1828, supporters of John Quincy Adams maligned Jackson's mother as a "common prostitute" and mocked his adored wife, Rachel, as a "convicted adulteress" and a "strumpet.") In an interview on ABC, Obama growled that Republicans "should lay off my wife," and described the inoffensive Tennessee video as "detestable," "low class," and reflecting "a lack of decency."

If Republicans "think that they're going to try to make Michelle an issue in this campaign," he added ominously, "they should be careful."

Ooh, very fierce. But unless Obama is prepared to emulate Jackson - Old Hickory defended his wife's honor by fighting duels, in one of which he killed a man - he stands no chance of putting his wife's remarks off-limits to criticism. As long as he keeps sending her around the country to campaign on his behalf, everything she says is - and should be - fair game. And unfortunately for Obama and his allegedly sunny politics of hope, what Mrs. Obama seems to say with grim regularity is that America is a scary, bleak, and hopeless place....

[Ian David]

1. Then so is McCain's pill-stealing home-wrecking ex-mistress/2nd wife Trollop McCain. n/t

[lumpy]

24. "then so is McCains... blah blah blah blah... Trollop McCain "

Then so you agree Michelle is fair game ?

[blonndee]

43. yeah, that's EXACTLY what the poster said.

Get a clue.

[me b zola]

79. Wow, sounds like you can't wait to go after the Dem nominee's family

Do you have any personal issues that you would like to tell us about?

[lumpy]

84. For you? No.

You just want to rag me. Right?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Jeff Jacoby is VERY right-wing.

Politically, he's close to loons like Michelle Malkin and Jonah Goldberg. So more than a grain of salt is needed when reading his crap.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jacoby_%28columnist%29

[Elspeth]

5. This is just a taste of what is coming.

If Obama and his crew get their panties in a wad over comments that don't even refer to them, how are they going to deal with more direct hits?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

10. If Michelle Obama is fair game, so is Cindy McCain.

You know, the very, very rich, pill-popping second wife McCain dumped his first wife for.

[Elspeth]

16. But Cindy's not on record saying she wasn't proud of America

You know how these guys do things. All I'm saying is Obama and his followers have got to control their reactions and not freak out at every comment. If Hillary Clinton cannot mention Bobby Kennedy's assassination right before its 40th anniverary without being accused of wanting Obama assassinated, what are the Obama people going to do when the REAL knives come out?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

20. Oh, I think the real knives have already come out.

And Hillary's been helping sharpen them.

[iconicgnom]

93. yah, the Republicans are coming out of the closet

[lumpy]

34. Michelle Obama is just as strident as Hillary.

Michelle's statement that she felt, for the first time, pride in her country is telling. It was, no doubt, because her husband has made a name for himself in politics and therefore she felt pride. Why had she not felt some pride in this country before, not just because her hubby has a chance for the WH?

[mrreowwr_kittty]

37. I dunno, why are you more worried about Cindy McCain being insulted than Michelle Obama?

Not that I think either one should be fair game, I just find it interesting.

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[mrreowwr_kittty]

49. You seem bitter, lumpy. nt

[lumpy]

87. Reluctantly I will give you the satisfaction of a reply.

I know you are most anxious to have one. No, I am not bitter as I have no reason to be bitter about anything. Life has taught me that there is nothing to be gained by being bitter. There is little I can control in life except my own actions. Happy?

[mrreowwr_kittty]

88. Ooookay.....

:scared:

[lumpy]

90. Sorry that you are unhappy that I am not bitter.

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[The Velveteen Ocelot]

47. Are you proud of your country right now?

Iraq, Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo, signing statements, illegal wiretaps, Katrina, corrupt U.S. attorneys, to name just a few embarrassments?

In any event, Michelle has repeatedly explained her remark. Yes, the freepers will harp on it. We know that. At least she never stole drugs from a charity or had an affair with a married guy who dumped his first wife for her.

[lumpy]

62. I have been damn proud of my country . I saw this country

pull together as one to defeat Hitler, I am proud of humanitarian Americans, proud of JFK's programs that were carried out in good faith, proud of those leaders who have given their all to do the right thing for our people, proud of the Americans that care and do something about those that need a helping hand and all things that one can be proud of. I am not proud of people who have lead us down the path of perfidy and go against the law and codes of decency. I hope that if Obama gets the top dog position, that he will give us something to be proud about.
I admit that Obama's wife is not appealing to me. I find her very strident and I felt insulted that she downgraded the very things that I have been a part of; things she should be proud of, not just because Barack is going places.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

65. You do know she clarified her remarks.

She said she meant she was now especially proud. I think maybe as an African-American she was coming from a different place than many of us white people. They might find a little less to be proud of, considering this country's shameful history of slavery and discrimination. In any event, she's not the candidate, is she? And she never did steal drugs from a charity, did she?

[lumpy]

71. She said : for the first time in her adult life she is proud of her

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7WNGjawtP48
country. She clairified her remarks so we can give her a break just like Clinton gets her breaks, right?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

105. Michelle is not the candidate.

And, btw, Obama did graciously accept Hillary's "clarification" of her remarks about RFK's assasination. Hillary, however, did not give him the benefit of the doubt as to his clumsily-phrased reference to "bitter" voters, but instead flogged it relentlessly for political advantage, even though she and everybody else knew what he meant and knew he was absolutely correct.

[ampad]

68. Why should she be proud of your experiences

Your personal experiences are probably nothing like mine. I'm 29yrs, grew up in the early 80's and 90's. When my parents and grandparents settled on a nice piece of land in the Midwest( land that my grandfather worked his ass off for in the tobacco fields of North Carolina to pay for) he was not treated very well. That was in 79, yea my grandfather got a visit from the klan the very night our family settled into our new home. I have dealt with racism most of my life, no I am not proud of my country just for that alone. I'm happy that so many people are able to look at this country and have some sense of pride but for some of us it is not that cut and dry. I'm sure there are some Japanese Americans that are not proud of the way this country treated them, rounding them up like animals and putting them into detention camps. You don't understand how some of us can not be proud and there are times that I cannot understand how some can be proud. Don't expect people to have the same experiences as you. Michelle Obama is older than me so I'm sure the racism was probably worse for her family and her growing up. There are some people who didn't have it so well in this country the American Indian being one group that can say that for sure. Yea Hitler went down in the fight. How did our government treat African Americans they enlisted to help in that fight? From what I can remember they were not allowed GI benefits even though they were willing to give their lives for this country. How ironic for the United States to go fight a war for another country to bring down an evil dictator hell bent on genocide yet America was treating blacks like dog shit. No this country is not the greatest, maybe for some it is but not for all. Michelle Obama doens't have to be proud of anything you might of experienced in this country. You have no idea how it was for her growing up.

[lumpy]

70. You know absolutely nothing of me nor my background,

so there is no need to put this on a personal level. For all you know you might be preaching to the choir. I am well aware of the struggles non-white ethnicities have gone through in this country. I have done my part to work against discriminaton. I abhor it and that includes misogyny, non- black ethnicities (and there is still plenty of that) discrimination against afflicted children, elderly and the mentally infirm. I suggest that you should be proud of the efforts made by the Black movenment leaders and supporters of every color who worked diligently to open the door to fairness and freedom from discrimination. I am glad and happy for the strides that have been made since I was a youngster and know that there will be more to come. I have seen the dramatic changes as far as discrimination has been in the US and I am encouraged that it will cease to be if we remain vigilant.
Sorry if I cannot admire Mrs. Obama. Perhaps I will gain respect for her.

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[JerseygirlCT]

66. I'm not. I'm hoping a new president can help us change that

right now, we've got an awful lot to answer for as a country.

[GoesTo11]

82. Have you heard her horrible speeches?

Actually amazing speeches.

If you just heard the one line looped on MSM out of context, you get the impression they want you to get.

If you hear her give a whole speech, you might be like my Hillary-base type mom who said "Michelle should be president."

[lumpy]

89. My regards to your Mom, however, really, Michelle is hardly

experienced nor qualified to be president. Lovely thought, however. It takes more than speeches to take on that sort of responsiblity. Michelle must do well in the home, however, and there is nothing wrong with that. She implied that by her words directed at Hillary, no doubt, when she said something to the effect that if you can't run your own house and family then how can you run the White House. I assume that she was referring to the fact that Bill Clinton has fooled around. I thought it was a below-the-belt comment. Very Rev. Wright like. I spent 11 years trying to make a marriage work with a husband who was a good man except he couldn't keep it zipped. I stayed with it because of my religious and traditional beliefs. Maybe Hillart Clinton has held those same beliefs. I just hope Michelle Obama never has to eat those words. Really I do. It is heartbreaking.

[GoesTo11]

95. Give the woman another chance.

I think you are just getting sound bites.

Hope you get to hear her speak for real sometime.

Yes, speeches are just speeches, but at the one I saw (in LA) she was better than Barack.

She really is an impressive woman and smashes preconceptions about how a woman - and a first lady - can
take charge.

She does once in a while let something negative slip out. Hope she can outgrow this.

I totally agree that the comment about Hillary running her own house was uncalled for. Hillary did what she could and more than most people would under very hard circumstances. (on edit: Sounds like you did too)

[immoderate]

102. Some of the worst presidents have had the best qualifications and experience.

How do you explain that? :shrug:

--IMM

[lumpy]

107. Worst presidents had best qualifications? Which ones?

I'm curious.

[Celebration]

111. hmmmm

I have had a theory all along that women who have husbands as disrespectful as Bill are the ones voting for Hillary. They relate to her marital difficulties and to her sticking by him. Really they should be doing polling questions like this. Perhaps women in Appalachia are more likely to excuse this behaviour. I don't know!

I would have kicked him out in an instant! This....is.....not......behaviour.....I......relate.......to.

Go Obama!

[mrreowwr_kittty]

36. And Michelle didn't steal drugs from a charity.

Also, if your Queen and her supporters can't handle it when she is called on a stupid gaffe about an assassination, choosing instead to issue a non-apology and blame others for "taking it out of context" then you REALLY wouldn't be able to handle it when the big knives come out in the General.

I mean, did you really think the GOP was going to step aside because it's Hillary's "turn"?

[ampad]

59. LOL, because it's Hillary's turn

The GOP would run the Clinton's out of politics once and for all if she were the nominee. One reason would be that they would not have their secret weapon of sexism to use against the GOP like they do Obama. Nothing would get the rabid conservatives more riled up than a bunch of feminist even the ones in Kentucky would come out to vote against Hillary. They have been fighting this culture war for years now and they would love to finish it off with the Clintons. They thought it was bad in the 90's when Bill was running, sheesh. One thing is for sure is that the GOP would make sure that Clinton and her supporters had genuine sexism issues to cry about none of this petty "sweetie shit" and fake crap that some of them harp about. Yea they could use racism against Obama the only thing is that Obama has not been screaming "racism" every time something doesn't go right with his campaign. Hillary and her supporters have cried wolf too many times for it to actually mean anything during the General election.

[ampad]

38. Oh geesh

I was wondering why your post had the tone of giddiness now I see: You think this should put out the fire of what Hillary said? It doesn't matter because these are two different issues. You expect that type of shit from a right winger not a Democrat. Had McCain or his minions made this statement several times I don't think anyone would be surprised but for that crap to come out of Hillary's mouth is disgusting. Nothing, I mean nothing, you put out here on the DU is going to change people's reaction to what she said. I have friends who have never heard of this board (Hillary fans) who thought her comment was unnecessary and disgusting. The GOP going after Michelle Obama is nothing to be surprised about. I think Obama supporters know what is coming down for Obama once this thing actually takes off. Also what was Hillary's excuse for bringing up RFK several months before the anniversary? You left that part out. Whatever the reason, it was in bad taste and for someone who claims to have so much political experience she should of known better. Also, Michelle Obama did not come out against the GI bill but McCain did so if they want to go after folks patriotism this year then let them. People are not falling for the Okie Doke this year because people are struggling to make ends meet and that includes those in the military. Most people who give a damn about misplaced patriotism are not going to vote for Obama anyways. Obama handled the tacky Hillary with class by making two very professional statements. He cannot help how his supporters react to such tacky statements on message boards.

I have no idea what you mean by "Obama people" but you know we can always turn this around. How would Hillary people behave if she were to magically win this nomination when they cannot handle folks saying one bad word about the 28yr old Chelsea Clinton? They behave as if she is a fucking baby. I mean come on for gods sake. You had people on this board bitching and moaning because Obama called some woman sweetie, Obama gave Hillary the finger, Obama snubbed Hillary, the media is focusing their cameras on Hillary's giant ass. Did you miss all those post or something? Yet you want to compare apples to oranges with this assassination statement? Please.

[Catherina]

51. Let's put it this way. There are no rules when it comes to fighting against Republicans

We'll do what it takes.

[AllentownJake]

Same way

We've been dealing with the crap coming from other democrats...which has been just as bad.

[Elspeth]

17. Oh no....the primary stuff has in NO way prepared you guys for what's coming

I remember the Clinton years well. Obama may be protected from some things because even the GOP is scared of being accused of outright racism, but, trust me, the worst is yet to come.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

32. And what prescient knowledge do you have that you don't seem to think

anyone else has?

Some of us have been around politics for a very, very long time. I remember the Clinton years, too. I also remember the Nixon years. Yes, of course they'll fight dirty. Big whoop. Tell us something new.

[AllentownJake]

33. We did what the RW has been trying to do

for 16 years and that is beat the Clintons. I'm pretty sure we are going to be ok.

[lumpy]

40. You can say that again.. Of course the Republicans want

Clinton out of the picture, they know Clinton has a better chance of beating the Republicans than Obama does.

[AllentownJake]

45. I think the GOP

thinks they'll make mince meat over anyone we nominate and really has no preference. Both have their negatives.

The GOP was attacking both equally till it became apparent that Obama was the probable nominee.

[lumpy]

73. The GOP knows that Clinton has more DC experience , knows

the ropes, more influence and foreign experience and she would be harder to beat than Obama and consequently she would be more of a threat in the WH in that position. Why do you suppose the right wing pundits and media has been knocking her so severily? The GOP knows they can really turn up the heat if Obama gets the nom.

[blonndee]

60. Yeah, that's why all the repuke talk-show hosts are shilling for Clinton.

Because they think SHE has a better chance.

[lumpy]

74. What talk show hosts specificaly ?

?

[blonndee]

50. BAM!!

Spot fucking ON, Jake.

That's why the Clintons have been so nasty and desperate. They're finally getting defeated by a truly superior opponent who represents not the "vast right-wing conspiracy" but constituents of their own party who have had ENOUGH. That says a whole fucking lot.

[AllentownJake]

53. Please

We've been fighting the belief that our candidate is a Muslim Terrorist since he announced.

The Hillary supporters whine about how's she been treated how about having to deal with that.

[blonndee]

56. No shit.

This victim mentality crap is so ridiculous. I can't believe any thinking person can't see it for what it is...more Clinton politicking and BS. The stakes have been in favor for Clinton from the get-go. American Democrats have rejected her "inevitable" coronation and she's in denial. She can't see why SHE is completely unacceptable to so many, and THAT is her fatal flaw.

[AllentownJake]

57. That

and she surrounds herself with incompetent losers.

[Catherina]

52. EXCELLENT retort!

:applause:

[AllentownJake]

55. People

who haven't been involved in defending Obama the past 6 months don't know what we've been fighting.

He's a secret Muslim Terrorist. How the fuck can it get worse than that.

[Catherina]

61. It can't. I'm all pumped up waiting for them now

Like Bush said "Bring it on".

I still have a printed stack of Clinton Surrogate and friend Roger C. Altman's trash about Obama being a secret Muslim terrorist. We're ready. Bring it on. Eight years of bottled-up rage won't be pretty. The Republicans know they've lost. Half their base is so discouraged they're either not voting or voting for Obama and they're not writing checks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xaeopola8eA but still pumped up and ready. Bring it on war lovers.

[kid a]

27. Thanks - lets discuss how to combat this RW smear!! You rock for bringing it up early!

[DJ13]

3. See, thats why Hillary would be the better nominee!

oh......wait......never mind.......

[Duke Newcombe]

4. They. REALLY. Don't. Wanna. Go. Down. This. Road.

The Republicans will pay dearly for this.

Duke

[Elspeth]

8. And how are they going to pay?

And with whose army?

[AllentownJake]

12. Ask Hillary Clinton

[Elspeth]

14. That answer makes absolutely no sense.

Are you going to take out your anger at the GOP on Hillary Clinton?

[AllentownJake]

15. You asked whose army and what we'll do

My answer was ask Hillary Clinton how effective we are.

[Elspeth]

21. What exactly have you done to Hillary Clinton?

You Jake3463.

[AllentownJake]

26. Me personally nothing

I've knocked on doors and got Obama's message out.

However everytime a lie has been spread about Obama and his wife I think the campaign has effectively rebutted her and exposed her for who she really is.

I firmly believe the same will be done to McCain.

[Elspeth]

30. That's what I thought.

:)

[lumpy]

86. Anger knows no bounds with some people. It sometime

rattles the brain and causes people to lose the ability to come forth with rational thought. This forum has created a lot of angry people who search rabidly to find some thing to be angry about.

[lumpy]

85. That is so asinine it's insane, Jake. It is almost laughable.

But then, if the shoe fits wear it.

[Duke Newcombe]

McCain and the GOP don't want Cindy McCain pulled into this.

That's what I meant. That's why they must be careful.

Duke

[MadMaddie]

13. Michelle Obama is not a Nancy Reagan, or a * wife.....

The more they attack her the more it will backfire on them...they really don't want scrutiny on Cindy McCain do they?

[BeatleBoot]

22. New to the Game?

Buckle up.

[Duke Newcombe]

31. No...just wondering if the R's know how stupid a mistake they're making...

...then again, let them learn the hard way. Oppo research is a bitch.

Duke

[Catherina]

54. If they do, those of us who have been holding back out of respect

for differing opinions among fellow Democrats during the Primaries will have no reason to hold back. Bring it on.


"I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go to war."
George W. Bush on sacrifice. Houston Chronicle, January 2002

[AllentownJake]

6. Fine John

So is your millionaire heiress wife and the way you left your first wife who stood by waiting for your return from Vietnam dutifully only to be uncermoniously dumped after she had a car accident and wasn't as pretty anymore.

Oh by the way the fact that your wife committed a federal crime by stealing from a charity is also something we may talk about if you want to go down that path.

[lumpy]

91. Uh.... I don't think John hangs around DU.

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[tularetom]

7. After 8 years of republican mismanagement and criminality

America is indeed getting to be a "scary bleak and hopeless place".

WTF does this assbite think people are supporting Obama for.

[DemVet]

9. Hey, that was my title.

[anonymous171]

11. He can just fund democratic challengers to their seats.

[BeatleBoot]

18. Why would anyone think she wasn't fair game?

The Dems are gearing up to demonize Cindy McCain.

Go ask Pat, Nancy, Rosalyn, Babs, Hillary and Pickles...

WTF?

[DemVet]

29. Another

thread on this topic.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6057592&mesg_id=6057592

[northzax]

19. of course she is

it's rich for the Obama campaign, which has directly criticized Bill Clinto , to complain about attacking a candidate's spouse for something said while campaigning.

[DemVet]

28. ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6057592&mesg_id=6057592

[WeDidIt]

23. There's a good reason they should be careful

because that opens up the spigots for Cindy McCain, and that will get much nastier than they could ever get with Michelle Obama (hint: drug use, business deals, and much much more)

[kid a]

25. Thanks Elspeth!!! Now lets work together below>>>for the best way to defend and win in NOV!! =)

[JohnnyLib2]

35. Let's just face it--we passed "fair" in this game long ago.

I want and will work for a Democratic administration. But, I'm not looking forward to the GE, considering all that has happened so far. :shrug:

[Skittles]

39. anyone who campains opens themselves to criticism

but the real word here is "fair" - they hit very low with Ms. Obama while ignoring Ms. McCain - there's no "fairness" here whatsoever

[blonndee]

41. Okay, then so is fraud-making, criminal drug addict Cindy McCain.

I hate this shit, but if that's how it has to be...

[anonymous171]

42. I'm all for it. I also think Obama should find a way to politically damage the TNGOP.

Maybe fund challengers for their elected officials or something. I don't know. Just make them pay.

[barb162]

44. When a person campaigns, that person is fair game .

[Underscoring facts]

46. Agree, but

She's not fair game for misleading accusations such as the one that accuses her of not being proud of America.

[LibraLiz1973]

58. Yes, she is fair game.

So is Cindy McCain.
So was Laura Bush.
So was Hillary Clinton.
So is Bill Clinton.
So was Nancy Reagan.
So was Barbara Bush

Any spouse or (now) adult child is fair game. Which is why Huckabee's animal torturing son was fair game.
And why Laura Bush killing (?) her ex boyfriend was fair game.
It's a (nasty at times) part of the process- but it IS a part of the process.

I, for one, am SHOCKED (literally shocked, I tell you) that no one is doing more with what a P.O.S. Cindy McCain is.
They could spend WEEKS in Michelle's closet and find nothing as significant as they would find in 2 minutes digging through McCain's purse.

And just think... I'm only referring to some of Cindy's skeletons that AREN'T buried.
THINK about the ones that are.

Scary.

[Elspeth]

63. I'm more interested in the kinds of attacks the GOP are preparing.

This is one of them and is just the tip of the iceberg.

[Hippo_Tron]

69. I don't agree that adult children are fair game automatically

I think they have to actively campaign for their parents before they open themselves up to that. And by that I don't just mean posing for photos or making an ad talking about how wonderful their dad or mom is. I'm talking about taking stances on policy and going around making speeches for their parents.

Chelsea Clinton right now is a good example of this. Chelsea Clinton during her father's administration is a good example of someone who should have been left alone even when she was 18.

[LibraLiz1973]

101. The Bush twins were fair game though

And I really think the Huckabee kid was too.


I agree about Chelsea- some of the press were merciless. Being called ugly in Newspapers, Magazines and on TV in her awkward teen years must have been AWFUL.

[Hippo_Tron]

103. The Bush twins were fair game when they spoke at the convention and campaigned for daddy in '04

But I think they should have been off limits during the beginning of the first term.

[LibraLiz1973]

110. I don't remember really thinking about them one way or the other

until 2004- that was when you saw what an AWESOME :sarcasm: job at parenting the Bushies were doing

[Hippo_Tron]

112. I thought trashing them in the press for underage drinking and fake IDs in 2001 was low

I drank under age and so do most college kids. And yes lots of them use fake IDs too. The United States is the only industrialized nation where you have to be 21 to drink and it's such an impractical law that nearly everyone breaks it. Fortunately for us, our parents aren't politicians and we have the luxury of a private life without reporters writing about it.

When they campaigned for daddy in 2004 it became a different matter because they voluntarily chose to enter the political crossfire. That's when it's perfectly acceptable to ask them why they aren't serving in Iraq if they support their father's war. But I think that they should have a right to be left alone until they decide to forfeit that right by campaigning for their father.

[jesus_of_suburbia]

64. She's not. I haven't heard anything from her yet that makes her "fair game".

I think she'll make a wonderful first lady.

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[Neshanic]

72. Somebody needs a makeover. Or an Oprah appearance.

[saltpoint]

75. I think Michelle Obama is not only extremely intelligent among

intelligent successful people but infinitely smarter than any Republican alive.

I'm not worried about her defending herself against the Pukes.

FOX News is a problem for any liberal / progressive person or idea, but we know to expect a torrent of disinformation from them, and the Limbaughs and Hannitys, etc.

In the court of public opinion, I think a hell of a lot of voters look at Michelle Obama and are genuinely and understandably impressed.

[Cha]

76. I'm not worred, either..Crusoe

Thanks.

[saltpoint]

78. Hey there, zidzi. Good to see you.

:hi: :dem:

[Cha]

81. Hey, Crusoe!

:hi:

[mountainvue]

77. And you expected what from the

Republicans? This is only the begining.

[Neshanic]

80. They have no idea. This will make the Kerry stuff look like playtime.

[mountainvue]

83. Don't I know it. Kerry is a seasoned pro.

I don't know how Obama will handle it.

[iconicgnom]

92. Another Republican OP.

I think it's spelled _t_r_o_l_l_

It sure isn't helpful for Dems.

[lostmonkey]

96. That was a stupid thing for her to say....

Not that she needs to be a flag-draped cheerleader, obviously. It's even refreshing that she said what she did.

But I think it makes her look pretty naive all the same.

[HuffleClaw]

99. getting 'offended' is one of the few things the obama campaign is good at n/t

[GoesTo11]

100. That and winning.

[iconicgnom]

104. project much?

[yardwork]

106. Your posting name is lovely. Elspeth. A beautiful old-fashioned woman's name.

Did you know that another newish DUer with a similarly lovely old-fashioned woman's name as a posting name posted this exact same subject line?

Wonders never cease. I declare.

[joeybee12]

108. If Cindy McCain is fair game, then so is Michelle...

...you can't have your cake and eat it, too.