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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:34 PM
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ENOUGH. If you don't like Obama, too bad. He is the nominee
You really don't have a choice in this matter anymore. Barack Obama has a majority of pledged delegates. It is impossible for Hillary Clinton to catch up.

Let me say that again. It is impossible. If you don't know the meaning of the word "impossible", here it is:


im·pos·si·ble

–adjective

1. not possible; unable to be, exist, happen, etc.
2. unable to be done, performed, effected, etc.: an impossible assignment.
3. incapable of being true, as a rumor.
4. not to be done, endured, etc., with any degree of reason or propriety: an impossible situation.
5. utterly impracticable: an impossible plan.
6. hopelessly unsuitable, difficult, or objectionable.


She can win every single remaining contest 100% and still not catch up. For those unfamiliar with percentages, a 100% win means every single vote. Literally. Every single vote. Every single person in Puerto Rico, Montana, and South Dakota can vote for Hillary Clinton, and she will not catch up in pledged delegates.

It's over. Done. Finito. Get over it.

Don't like his Rezko ties? He is the nominee.
Don't think he can win the general election? He is the nominee.
Don't like his former pastor? He is the nominee.
Think he has no substance? He is the nominee.
Hate his supporters? He is the nominee.
Think he is sexist? He is the nominee.
Think he is homophobic? He is the nominee.
Don't like his skin color? He is the nominee.
Disagree with his health plan? He is the nominee.
Disagree with his foreign policy? He is the nominee.
Think he has a big ego? He is the nominee.
Hate the way he ran his campaign? He is the nominee.
Dislike his middle name? He is the nominee.

It's him or it's McCain. Pick one:


If you pick McCain, then get out of this forum.

There is nothing left to argue about. You can give me a trillion reasons why Hillary Clinton is better than Barack Obama. I can give you 10 trillion reasons why Kucinich is better than both. It's a moot point. Barack Obama is the Democratic Nominee for President of the United States of America for the year 2008.

There is nothing you can do about it short of finding the nearest wormhole and devising a way to travel through it into another universe where Barack Obama isn't the Democratic nominee. In this universe, you're stuck.

Accept it.

:rant:
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:37 PM
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1. If we don't have a choice what's your problem?
Let the process come to it's natural conclusion.

You're not forcing anybody to do anything before they're ready.

If you're so sure you've won, then stop being a sore winner.
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:38 PM
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2. There's no such thing as 'sore winner'
We're sick of all the sore losers.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:39 PM
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3. It's completely harmless.
No ramifications at all.

:drysarcasm:
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:18 PM
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25. Are you a Democrat with no choice?
Edited on Thu May-22-08 07:18 PM by Life Long Dem
As a Democrat you need to prevent damage to the Democratic party you yourself would rather not see as a Democrat, OR you yourself 'had and have' no intention of staying with the Democratic party in the first place.

With the increasing number of Democrats wanting to boot Clinton out of the convention. By the time she does damage to the party, she is not going to have a party to come back to.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:40 PM
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4. Agree 100%
Now who is the VP? Tweety's show is talking about Hillary (dream ticket), saying Bill is pushing for it, that the Clinton campaign is making it "unofficially known" that she wants the VP? Yikes!!
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:40 PM
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5. It seems like the BO supporters are the ones that can't accept it.
Rant after rant after rant on here vilifying Hillary, Chelsea, Bill. What a bitter bunch of BO supporters.
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polpilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:58 AM
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38. No, just patriotic democrats, intelligently opposed to bombing helpless countries 10K miles away and
tired of lying self-serving sociopaths misleading uneducated, disadvantaged citizens for their own vainglory exploits.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:41 PM
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:46 PM
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9. Now don't pull punches, tell him what you REALLY think.
;)
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:48 PM
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13. Once again you win the nasty award.
I don't think I have ever read a post of yours that didn't tell someone to "fuck off."
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:54 PM
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17. Funny, I was just thinking I hadn't seen one post in which he didn't call someone a "piece of shit."
Or call someone's post "a piece of shit." Same old, same old.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:50 PM
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15. mirror!
is that necessary?
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:43 PM
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7. Damn straight. He won. Learn to cope.
We're tired of the continued attacks and smears, gaming of the system and distraction from the real enemy - John McCain.

She ain't gonna win. Her chances of achieving the nomination are 0%. That's a fact, and if you don't like it, suck it.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:44 PM
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8. Math Was Invented By White Men!!!`
Designed to oppress women and minorities.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:47 PM
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10. Not yet
hate to burst your bubble --and the longer he remains NOT the nominee --the less likely it becomes that he will be the nominee.
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swishyfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:36 PM
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28. But he will be, and your post is exactly backwards
Every second that goes by brings him closer to the final primary votes and closer to becoming nominee.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:53 AM
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30. Not really
If he was actually destined to become our nominee --the SDs would have ALL flocked to him at this point. Time is chipping away at his lead and Clinton can only become stronger.

His failure to take this past a functional draw will lead this fight to the convention.

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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:58 AM
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31. The fourth of June.
The last primaries are the third. The day after, Obama will have the nomination by default, as he will have secured enough delegates through superdelegate endorsements. If you think that Hillary is going to be the nominee, OR if you think this will go all the way through to the convention, then I submit that you are either delusional or stupid (there is no functional difference between wilful ignorance and stupidity, and the image I'm getting is of a small child with her fingers in her ears saying 'la-la-0la-la' at the top of her lungs to drown out the unpleasant facts she doesn't want to hear).
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:47 PM
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11. NO!
He IS NOT! And you know it! Otherwise you would ACT so desperate!







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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:55 PM
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18. I think you should include more photos in your posts.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:01 PM
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20. oh..put a fork in IT!
;)
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:45 AM
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36. At least she quit posting the racist Obama pic after she was getting deleted. n/t
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:27 PM
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26. Any desperation comes from Obama vs. McSame, and not Clinton
Here we are, trying to gather as much of the Democratic party together to prevent Clinton from damaging our very own party.

I don't know where your going, but Clinton is not going to have a party to come back to.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:48 PM
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12. Hillary has some supers that are obstensibly for Obama that will break 4 her when the time is right
Impossible may not be the word that applies here.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:53 PM
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16. Did you get that from the Psychic Friends Network?
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:49 PM
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14. I'll go with "highly improbable"
June 3 is when it will approach "impossibility".
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:56 PM
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19. Dude, it isn't up to you who stays and who goes. Switch to decaf.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:02 PM
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21. I like Obama.
I know he will be the nominee. I still like Hillary better.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:05 PM
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22. I like your attitude. Wish there was more of it around GDP.
Not that I "know" he will be the nominee. Life turns on a dime.

:hi:
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:06 PM
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23. Well, there's a winning argument. NOT. Sheesh....
are you trying to make SURE that Hillary supporters don't support Obama?

If I was a Hillary supporter, I would be insulted by your "my way or the highway" approach.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:12 PM
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24. K&R, BUT ...
You obviously don't understand that tomorrow morning (or maybe the next day, or the next), all of the delegates who are pledged to Obama are going to suddenly change their minds and come out for Hillary. The SDs, as well, will all go to her side, en masse.

This change in the tide will be prompted by all of the delegates suddenly realizing that the candidate who came into the primary process with every possible advantage and STILL COULDN'T WIN the nomination is our best chance in November.

They will also acknowledge that sexism has been rampant throughout the process (which is, of course, the ONLY explanation for why Hill is losing), but will also recognize the fact that said sexism will suddenly disappear in the GE.

The final nail in Obama's campaign coffin will be the result of delegates finally realizing that someone who has brought a huge amount of new Democrats into the tent, someone who is able to raise funds at a startling pace, and someone who fills arenas while his opponent can barely fill high school gymnasiums is just NOT the kind of Democratic nominee we need.

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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 08:22 PM
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29. Nance, that cracked me up!
:thumbsup:
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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:48 AM
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33. I wish they could put Nance in a bottle and sell her.
I'd stock up for my home and buy it for all my friends too.


:loveya:
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:29 PM
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27. Excellent post, K & R.
:thumbsup:
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:46 AM
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32. Good luck with that, lol.
I'm not sure what you hope to accomplish by telling people that don't like Obama "Too bad," but unless you want to further alienate those Democrats, I think you're hurting your cause.

:popcorn:
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:57 AM
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34. It's him or it's McCain. Pick one
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:12 AM
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35. he hasn't yet been nominated.
and, our party doesn't yet have a platform.

For many voters, there is still time to express to these candidates their views on the issues and concerns which are important to them. There is no other vehicle for those who haven't yet voted which is as important as their vote, no matter that you and others have decided their input is irrelevant.

Sen. Obama looks to be well on his way to the nomination, but it is a slap in the face, a baring of your ass at our democratic process to demand allegiance from voters who have had absolutely no say in a race where the leading candidate has yet to achieve that nomination by actual votes cast alone.

I've never understood why some Americans (mostly pundits and pollsters) are content to declare a winner in an election in which neither candidate has yet 'won' according to the rules governing the process. Perhaps you and others would like to run our democracy by purchased polls and pundits, but the rules of our Democratic primary indicate that, in this situation, where neither candidate has enough delegates to nominate, The winner will be determined by the votes of the superdelegates. When enough of them publicly declare for a candidate in numbers which allow that candidate to reach the required amount to nominate, then we'll be able to declare a winner in this race. Not before.

In the meantime, the candidates will campaign and the rest of the voters will vote. All of the lecturing, handwringing, and animus won't change that.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:47 AM
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37. Take it easy with this stuff, brah.
Let's see what the RBC decides on May 31st before you continue to antagonize Clinton people.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:34 PM
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39. They can quit acting like petulant children.
Edited on Fri May-23-08 01:58 PM by Spider Jerusalem
The RBC won't seam FL and MI as is; they may seat them with a 50% penalty, no SD's, and the uncommitted from Michigan for Obama (the 50% penalty is the one in the rules, so this is what I expect); this is a situation that doesn't help Clinton at all. She won't be the nominee, and if they're 'antagonised' by that fact, that's too goddamned bad.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:40 PM
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40. My day isn't complete...
Without your daily dose of condescension and bullying.

Unless you have dual citizenship, you are the one person in this thread I can say with certainty who won't be voting for Obama in November, eh? We can mind our own affairs here in the states just fine, thanks!

We all know Obama has it wrapped up, so why do you post threads like this every day with such anger, smugness, and urgency? That's not the behavior of a mature, confident candidate supporter. Haven't had much reason to expect more from the Obama Patrol, though.
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