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Yanez Houston Jordan Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:08 PM
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St. Petersburg Times to Hillary: "where were you when we needed you? When the rules and bylaws
committee was stripping away our delegates, you were silent, and some of your top advisers, Harold Ickes, Tina Flournoy, were voting for that penalty."

Link to audio file: http://www.tampabay.com/specials/2008/audio/052108Dems/

This just goes to show that Hillary's "concern" about the MI and FL delegates is really just a selfish interest in her ability to bolster her 2012 campaign by claiming her second place finish in 2008 was that much closer if you count those straw polls which all candidates agreed wouldn't count.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:09 PM
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1. Karma's a bitch, and she makes no exceptions for gender.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:10 PM
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2. hilary had her nose in her inevitability..
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:11 PM
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3. Aw, Damn.... Well, there goes another Talking Point
I'm sure she'll come up with another one.
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:12 PM
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4. She was too busy planning her coronation.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:18 PM
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7. Picking out a crown is no small task, my friend
She'll tell ya, if you just ask.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:37 AM
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24. So many crowns, so little time
Edited on Fri May-23-08 01:38 AM by SoCalDem
Perfectly Appropriate Understated crown


Regal Purple majesty model


the whaddawhopper crown


the McCain Starry Crown


Scranton-gal Sparkle Plenty Model


Kentucky Toad Hollow Crown


This one's just right for the occasion
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:32 AM
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30. ?
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southern_belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:31 AM
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34. Good one, SoCalDem!
:rofl:
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:34 PM
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35. She chose Crown Royal didn't she?
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:13 PM
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5. The MSM needs to take this up
HRC didn't give a rip about all those votes because she was so entitled, she just knew it would be in the bag by February 5th!

Only after her plans didn't work out and her campaign revealed its poor management and strategy, did she care about the people and all votes being counted.

What a despicable, hypocritical witch.

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glitternotgold Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 05:36 AM
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31. The MSM are too busy
being shrills for Obama; to point out the many faces of Hellary!!!
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:17 PM
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6. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Hill
:smoke:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:24 PM
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8. Hillary doesn't give a flying flip about FL or MI
It's all about Hillary.

Al
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:24 PM
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9. Hillary doesn't give a flying flip about FL or MI
It's all about Hillary.

Al
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swishyfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:26 PM
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10. ...but the ladies at the canasta club took the vote seriously!
So there.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:31 PM
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11. Happy to K&R this for her, and her supporters, flaming hypocrisy.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:36 PM
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12. Where Was She on the week that Florida was stripped? Doing this!!!
She was dealing with her Arrested Campaign Fundraiser Norman Hsu 08/27/07
Hsu arrested:

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/08/29/clinton_to_donate_funds_from_h.html


She was doing the Late Show with David Letterman.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/08/31/late_show_with_hillary_clinton.html


She was getting ready for a debate: http://www.bloggernews.net/19725


She was doing another fundraising gala with her movie star friends:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/08/30/clintons_money_troubles.html
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:37 PM
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13. Where was she? Happily talking about how the FL/MI votes "wouldn't count for anything," of course.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:42 PM
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14. Actually she was handling her own fund raising crisis
I searched for the week before and two weeks after..



SHE SAID NOTHING.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:44 PM
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15. She was all for screwing MI and FL when she thought
her Super Tuesday Shock & Awe was going to end the primaries.

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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:48 PM
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16. She lied in the interview.... what else is new?
She lied and said she always said it was wrong from the beginning.


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Yanez Houston Jordan Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 05:10 PM
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17. nice photo
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 05:19 PM
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18. The Burger King Commercials were creepy
But she does look good in that crown and a robe.

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:32 AM
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23. BWAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAH
Fock, that's funny....
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 05:21 PM
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19. Hillary is always self serving.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:00 AM
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20. Great interview!
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:08 AM
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21. She didn't mention a word about it, until she found herself falling behind ...
... and knew a few well-placed declarations for the suffering voters of FLorida might make the FL airwaves in the last few nights before the "no campaigning" election and net her some much-needed votes.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:29 AM
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22. She was obviously very, very busy getting ready for Day One!
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mythyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:45 AM
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25. K&R
I am so sick of this shit. such a lying sack of shit, glad to see someone in the press finally calling her on it....
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:59 AM
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26. She said Florida should count two days before the primary. And she was there when they needed her
on primary night.

Steve
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:02 AM
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27. She needed them on Primary night.......
remember? The fake celebration of a hollow win based on name rec? :shrug:
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:17 AM
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28. Oh please. Florida was a state that favored Clinton. The large elderly population worked in her
favor. Polls taken when they were trying to set up new elections showed the results would have been the same--that's why Obama blocked the new elections. And he was plenty well-known by January 29.

Steve
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:22 AM
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29. Was this before or after
Hillary Clinton's Brown on Black race baiting?

Sergio Bendixen, a Clinton pollster and Hispanic expert, publicly articulated and Hillary agreed that this was an "historical Fact".

“The Hispanic voter—and I want to say this very carefully—has not shown a lot of willingness or affinity to support black candidates.” —Clinton pollster Sergio Bendixen
http://www.rollingstone.com/nationalaffairs/index.php/2008/01/12/clinton-pollster-latinos-too-racist-to-vote-for-obama



Clinton at Root of Racist Stereotyping - Hispanics vs Blackswashingtonpost.com — Where did this come from? "Hispanics traditionally do not like Blacks." Since when? This is a racist, divisive falsehood that the Clinton Campaign has created and nurtured as a 'historical statement' in an attempt to pit the political arena against Obama. First mentioned by a Hillary pollster and then affirmed by Clinton herself. There is no proof.
http://www.digg.com/2008_us_elections/Clinton_at_Root_of_Racist_Stereotyping_Hispanics_vs_Blacks




A few weeks ago, Sergio Bendixen, a Clinton pollster and Hispanic expert, publicly articulated what campaign officials appear to have been whispering for months. In an interview with Ryan Lizza of The New Yorker, Bendixen explained that "the Hispanic voter - and I want to say this very carefully - has not shown a lot of willingness or affinity to support black candidates."

The spin worked. For the last several weeks, it's been on the airwaves (Tucker Carlson, "Hardball," NPR), generally tossed off as if it were conventional wisdom. And it has shown up in sources as far afield as Agence France-Presse and the London Daily Telegraph, which wrote about a "voting bloc traditionally reluctant to support black candidates."

The spin also helped shape the analysis of the Jan. 19 Nevada caucus, in which Clinton won the support of Hispanic voters by a margin of better than 2 to 1. Forget the possibility that Nevada's Hispanic voters may have actually preferred Clinton or, at the very least, had a fondness for her husband; pundits embraced the idea that Hispanic voters simply didn't like the fact that her opponent was black.

But was Bendixen's blanket statement true?

Far from it, and the evidence is overwhelming enough to make you wonder why in the world the Clinton campaign would want to portray Hispanic voters as too unrelentingly racist to vote for Barack Obama.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=713782


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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:14 AM
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32. Did anything change in terms of her nomination prospects, between her support
for the sanctions against Florida and Michigan in 2007 and early 2008 and her opposition to the same sanctions after the first few primaries and caucuses?
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:30 AM
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33. Surely you're not suggesting...
...that Hillary Clinton would change a position solely for the sake of political expedience?
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