Advice: Never post when you're angry

[Cyrano]

So ignoring my own advice, I'm asking what the hell is Hillary doing? She's lost by any measure you want to use.

She seems to be ensuring that her backers will never vote for Obama.

She seems to be more interested in her own ambition than healing the country.

She has (not too subtly) appealed to racists.

She is shredding any hope of Democratic unity.

She has embraced the analysis of Karl Rove of all people.

She is helping to put McCain in the White House.

Please don't accuse me of anti-feminism. A few months back, I would have had no problem seeing her win the primary and the general election. What's turned me off on Hillary is Hillary. Having said this, what in the world are Democrats who are sticking with her thinking???

[Oleladylib]

1. It's really very elementary, Watson!!! She's the better candidate!!

[JVS]

5. As proven by how poorly she manages money and how she loses most contests by large margins

[southern_belle]

26. Wha...???

:rofl:

[Crunchy Frog]

27. In her and your hallucinations maybe.

[nichomachus]

42. And she should remain a candidate

while Obama goes on to be president. Let her keep running until she retires.

[eridani]

49. Doesn't want to increase the Dem registered voter base

Agrees with Repubs and says Dems are wrong all the time. Can't manage money.

[TahitiNut]

54. She has only three campaign themes ... depending on the audience.

(1) Vote for me because I piggy-backed on my husband's experience. (Only the good parts, though.)

(2) Vote for me because I'm a woman. (Hear me lie.)

(3) Vote for me because I represent white Americans. (We work. They don't)


Divisive "identity politics." Even her sycophants look at the race through the narrow lens of "identity politics." When Hillary lies down on the railroad tracks they play Dudley Dorightwing and go looking for Snidely Whiplash (with the dark complexion). The projection is unreal.

[graywarrior]

2. Sadly, I agree with everything you wrote

[PBS Poll-435]

3. Just wait until June 3rd. Let everyone have an opportunity to participate in this historic contest.

What is 12 days going to cost anyone?

[PoliticalAmazon]

28. Do you think she will stop then? Why? n/t

[PBS Poll-435]

31. I don't know exactly what will happen.

But it is silly to be upset before it is appropriate.

[PoliticalAmazon]

34. DNC is making us all patsies for Hillary's goalpost adjustment dance...

by refusing to use their power to stop this destructive farce.

I have no belief that she will end her campaign then, nor that the DNC will put any pressure on her to do so.

[PBS Poll-435]

35. I don't believe that it is the DNC's responsibility to tell her to do anything.

And I don't think there is anything "destructive" going on.

[PoliticalAmazon]

46. She is wasting resources, her own and the Dem Party's, and continuing...

to divide the party.

The only comfort in all of this is that her political career will be over by the time we are able to shove her out of the race.

[PBS Poll-435]

48. I wouldn't be so sure about her being "done."

[PoliticalAmazon]

52. I am. She's trasher the political viability of herself, Bill and Chelsea. And she STILL lost. n/t

[2rth2pwr]

4. You managed to fit in about 90% of the talking points in one post. Pretty good.

[PBS Poll-435]

8. The OP forgot Poland.

A-

[TornadoTN]

11. Question: Will you vote for Obama if he's the nominee?

Seriously, because the OP's points are spot-on. The longer this thing goes and the more bullshit is thrown about by either candidate, the larger the risk of turning the other candidates base away. (Remember, not everyone is 100% do-or-die party line voter, not even a majority of voters)

Or is that the plan now at this stage of the game?

[Swamp Rat]

29. I asked that poster the same question yesterday.

Still waiting for an answer.

[Doityourself]

55. The Poster is still dodging the question I see..lol what a frickin' chicken coward!

[navarth]

13. excuse me, but how can you possibly count Michigan?

Not being a smart ass, I'm curious about how that would be accomplished in a fair manner.

[2rth2pwr]

17. I'm not sure but Obama and Axelrod are willing to.

[navarth]

22. So I hear...but would Senator Clinton's supporters go along with that plan?

What is your opinion?

[2rth2pwr]

23. If she does.

[navarth]

24. I actually do believe that she'll do the right thing when the time comes.

Although some stuff I'm hearing really alarms me.

[hfojvt]

45. looks like you forgot the links to your rebuttals

[berni_mccoy]

6. Hater!

:sarcasm: Get ready for the projections of hatred from the hillbots

[reflection]

It's called a self-fulfilling prophecy

After she finally kneecaps Obama she'll say "See? I told you he couldn't win."

Then 2012 rolls around - lather, rinse, repeat.

[libnnc]

7. right there with ya

makes me hate waaay too much

[TornadoTN]

9. Interesting isn't it?

If this doesn't open people's eyes to the Clinton's and the DLC types, I don't know what would.

The fact that people still hold her as some sort of high paragon of virtue and shining knight is beyond me.

[gkhouston]

10. She appears to be inhabiting a self-created, self-perpetuating alternate

reality and is unwilling to admit just how small the bubble she exists in has become.

[indimuse]

12. LOL!!

so confused are you...

[NanceGreggs]

14. Agreed.

"What's turned me off Hillary is Hillary."

Her supporters keep asking why people hate her - but when you point to her own behaviour as the cause, they refuse to accept that as being the logical explanation.

[Cyrano]

20. Thanks, Nance. I was probably channeling your thoughts on that.

[wvbygod]

15. Use wisdom rather than anger

If Obama were to quit while he is ahead and let the better candidate Hillary win
the nomination without all this fuss he can come back when is is a little older
and wiser and be a shoe in.

Focus energy on getting that step done and the anger will disappear.

[NashVegas]

16. Obama Supporters Don't Get a Vote on Clinton's Stategy

Sometimes it seems like if you boil down all the anti-Clinton sentiment to one theme, what it comes down to is: she won't do what I want.

[Crunchy Frog]

30. She won't do what's best for the party and the country.

She wants to hand the country over to four years of McCain. The rest of us are certainly free to point that out, and to oppose it, as much as we oppose Nader.

[TahitiNut]

56. We're now used to that in Michigan.

She'd be wise to avoid Southeast Michigan. Even Macomb County.

[havocmom]

18. Point of order: SOME of her backers may not vote for Obama,

but is seems more and more of them are abandoning HRC as she shows her ugly and overpowering obsession to be more than her rational mind can control.

Lots of FORMER HRC supporters here and in various polls are fine with Obama and NOT fine with Hillary these days. She has snapped and most recognize that sad fact.

[undeterred]

41. Some of her "backers" are Republicans

who voted for her because Rush said to.

[havocmom]

44. Yes indeedy. Nothing will GOTV for the GOP as much as the name CLINTON on a GE ballot

They have wanted to vote against a CLINTON again since they failed to convict Bill during their little tempest in a sexpot teapot

[cags]

19. I'm thinking she can win and Obama can't... period. If McCain wins I'll choke. Obama won't beat him

[CanonRay]

25. If McCain beats Obama, many will blame Hillary

I know I will. And what will be her 2012 chances then? Zero.

[Bucky]

39. Good point. Cause NO WAY Republicans could've ever thought up the criticism Hillary thought of.

Wait, no... Now that I think about it, all she did was field test anti-Obama arguments. Which is, you know, exactly what primaries are for.

[cags]

43. I'll blame Obama, cause after all he couldn't win

[eridani]

50. Based on what? She can't manage money and is not interested in

--increasing the Dem voter base. When has she ever disagreed with McCain in public lately? The wingnut faction will be out in force just to vote against her.

[Pisces]

21. I have posted in anger and only have negative vitriol for Clinton, No apologies because she deserves

it.

[ashling]

32. The number of electors that each state gets needs to be

= to the number of votes cast from that state AND divided proportionately according to the percent of the vote.

:eyes:

[Name removed]

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[rock]

36. Why do so many want her to stop?

Her not stopping is not the problem. It's all those that bleating for her to drop out. Peace.

[undeterred]

37. OK NOW I'M ANGRY

She should drop out yesterday.

[Bucky]

38. Shut up! Shut up! Shut the dingdang shoe fuck up right now you monkeyfucker!

I am NOT angry!!!! I totally the fuck resent the fucking fuck out of that fucking insinufuckingation. Grrrrr!

[Lone_Star_Dem]

53. "Shut the dingdang shoe fuck up."

Where the hell did you ever come up with that one? I love it! :rofl:

[TahitiNut]

57. Sounds like a "Wizard of Oz" outtake.

:silly:

[Auntie Bush]

40. If people took your advice...there would be no more anti-Hillary posts..

80-90% of Hillary haters are bitter and angry and running scared of Hillary. BOOOOOOOO! She's coming to get you! Duck! Run for cover!

[Window]

47. Hillary is holding the Democratic Party hostage, and they're suffering from the Stockholm syndrome.

[nvme]

51. It is amazing

The Clinton machine dismantling itself before the country's eyes. $31 million in the red (this must be paid before the convention). So many caucus states slapped in the face cause they are not representative of a democracy. It is her perfume (desperation). Its the black, No its the DNC, maybe the uneducated whites didn't turn out enough, that right its because he is black that he gets special priviledge. Or maybe because her campaign people were too busy lobbying for corporate interest, to realize there was another candidate in the race who was raising shitloads of money. Maybe the upstart was visiting states that she took for granted. Maybe that same upstart utilized those familiar with each states process and signed people to do GOTV. Maybe 51 % of the voters just werent buying what she was selling. It really dont matter other than the fact her monumentally flawed campaign just totally underestimated her opponent. There are no set standards to qualify to be POTUS; Bush is the prime example. So if she cannot run her campaign or at least get competent people to help then why reward her?