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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:38 PM
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A popular vote doesn't land you $31mill in debt. There's nothing popular about that.
And it's not an opinion. People vote with their feet and their wallets.

I really believe that if you re-voted the entire country, her numbers would drop another 20-30%. She got alot of early states before she got so ugly. Now, I doubt she'd keep those numbers if she had to do it over. People really turned against her after the knives came out.

It may be a double standard, but it is unavoidable: People don't like angry, irrational women. And they really don't like them in their government or TV or newspapers. I know it's considered an asset for a man to be tough. I know it's a double standard, but we have a general election to win, and she would have brought out the anti-Hil vote from the republicans. We can't afford her this year.

That's why she's $31 mill in debt.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:40 PM
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1. Another fact MSM fails to acknowledge... She went in debt to get where she is.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:25 PM
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12. Into debt, and writing $11.4m personal checks to buy the nomination
Would she still be out cmpaigning if she hadn't been able to write those checks? Would people have voted for her in the same numbers if she had had to reveal them the day she banked them?
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:41 PM
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2. The committed give their money
at 90$ a piece. The influence peddlers max out.

She has no money because she received most from investment bankers and lobbyists.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:42 PM
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3. Except she's not 31 million in debt.
Another lie on DU that all the Obamabots are propogating.
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:47 PM
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9. True. She's only $19 million in debt, which is ever so much more fiscally responsible.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:42 PM
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4. And still she gave the "nominee" a 35 point drubbing - NT
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:35 PM
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6. the cracker vote. big fucking deal
it's a red state anyway. she wouldn't win it in the GE either. so, your point is?
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:41 PM
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7. I'm sure the state and the region will remember the attitudes
expressed toward them.

And of course, Bill Clinton won KY twice.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:48 PM
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10. You think Appalachian voters care about some anonymous people on a message board?
Wow are you delusional.
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:08 PM
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11. the ones who say they "will not vot for a black man" are the cracker vote
I really don't give a flying fuck what the racists think about it.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:43 PM
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5. Continuous blunders....
The question that the Democratic Party has to start asking itself is ....could she beat McCain making these blunders.

She began her campaign with critical blunders starting with the first Super Tuesday.....not mitigating the fact she might lose and not going after more money at the time.....

Her campaign has been irresponsible in it's management, it's plan and it's chaos. There were other signs...not being able to pay staff....etc..

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blue panther Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:45 PM
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8. Bad logic
The popular vote is not measured by money.
Obama had more money available in PA, for instance. Doesn't mean he won the popular vote there.
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