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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:48 PM
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If you demonize those who disagree with you into racists and crazies...
you will never win them over. Just remember that Clinton has won about half the votes and you shouldn't stereotype them all to be crazy and racist. I am sure there are those who are, but it will not be for the good of the party or the GE to lump them all together.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:51 PM
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1. Who was it who said that Obama couldn't win the "White working-class vote"...
...and that there was a "pattern" there?

I personally wouldn't call people I don't know racists, but it's Hillary's own damn fault for bringing it up. Obama DIDN'T.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:52 PM
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3. Point well made.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:03 PM
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12. Agreed
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:54 PM
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6. wow, you have a lot to learn about voting blocs obviously.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:58 PM
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10. Educate me then. Just answer me one question first:
did Obama EVER say that "there were a lot of men out there--hardworking, decent men--who wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton? And there was "a pattern there?"

She tried to scare us into the "black men are unelectable" meme, on the grounds that if you personally aren't racist, you're doomed by the people that ARE. Using the racists as a bargaining chip, essentially. Meanwhile, Obama never made any such "unelectable" argument about women, and yet HE gets labeled sexist.

Bloody unfair.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:52 PM
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2. Exactly what are we supposed to say to people that say Obama is a muslim and...
when corrected they say "I don't believe it".

Please, because ever since I saw a woman from West Virginia say this on video I've been at a loss to actually think what kind of people we are dealing with.

Does truth and logic just not apply anymore?
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:53 PM
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5. just realize that you saw ONE woman on TV (MSM) say one thing
that doesn't apply to 50% of Democrats in every state
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:55 PM
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7. Give them the facts and then let them figure it out, or not
deriding them and yelling at them will not change their minds.

Most, in fact a huge majority, of Hillary supporters will vote for Obama in the fall.

That is pretty much all one can expect from them. Some will get more enthused about Obama, many won't.

But most will vote Democratic. Especially if they are left alone to figure it out on their own.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:53 PM
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4. sexism exists in Kentucky too
Today, I saw a picture of a Kentucky man who was a Clinton supporter with a pin on his hat that said "Miss Bill? Vote for Hill."
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:57 PM
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8. Sadly, that could be my dad. At least the last time we talked about
politics, which was months ago. He doesn't agree with my choice, I don't agree with his, so we stopped chatting about it. x(
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:57 PM
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9. Anyone who voted for Hillary in the primary. But will vote for McCain the GE. Is either a racist or
a dumbass. He shares none of the views of Hillary. Obama does.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:58 PM
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11. Leave us sexist Obama supporters alone
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