WHY CANT HILLARY WIN OREGON?!?!?!

[The Ghost]

Blue state. Progressive amongst Dems. Enough of this 'Why Cant Obama win Kentucky?' ....

WHY CANT HILLARY WIN OREGON?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!!!!

(Im playing devil's advocate, as we all -should- know that primaries and general elections are completely different animals.)

[Bigleaf]

1. Come on. You must be kidding. That fucking state is is so sexist it's not funny.

:sarcasm:

[Bicoastal]

5. Exactly. Its phallic name is a dead giveaway.

:P

[Doityourself]

19. LMAO! V ery good.

[msallied]

60. L...O...L! Best joke of the night. Well done.

[Renew Deal]

2. Hillary is winning the states we can't win in November.

Obama is winning the states a Democrat must win.

[MonkeyFunk]

28. Like NY, NJ

MA, CA, PA, OH?

[donheld]

65. We can easily win MA, CA, NY, NJ,

And with a little effort we can win PA and OH. Just because Hillary beat Obama
in those states doesn't mean Obama can't win them in the General Election.

[roguevalley]

46. You were truer stating, "Obama is winning the states." I salute your

girl's win in Puerto Rico. Too bad they can't vote in the General Election. Did anyone tell her that?

[writes3000]

3. And it's chock full of those "Hard working, white Americans". Hillary's favorite peeps. n/t

[NightWatcher]

4. progressives dont vote for Hillary. Just old white "Southern-Strategy Dems"

[nonconformist]

17. Dream on. nt

[smalll]

50. Translation: rich people don't vote for Hillary. Just hopelessly down-market losers.

/nt

[Quantess]

66. Oregonians are not rich people.

But maybe you already knew that and I'm missing your point.

[quantass]

53. .

[high density]

6. The mail-in balloting is sexist

Mail-in voting doesn't count.

[Greyskye]

12. They don't have mail-in ballots in Oregon.

They have male-in ballots. The whole state is sexist you know.

[Mme. Defarge]

32. I used to work for

Male-Well Envelope Company in Milwaukie, OR.

[Qutzupalotl]

7. She voted for the war.

Oregonians are sending their kids to fight it.

[populistdriven]

8. Who is Hillary?

Is she that former presidential candidate? Bless her heart.

Remember how competitive of a race it was?

[havocmom]

21. bushmeat, I LOVE this post you keep using! It just works.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[populistdriven]

24. I admit it hides my intense frustration and desire for us to moveon nt

[kenny blankenship]

41. A musical Duff, for one

A tall cool pile o' Swank, for another.
And a be-Sherpaed, Kiwi Sir Edmund who surmounted Everest, for a third.

[pdx_prog]

9. Because we are true liberals

who swing to the left....

[Arugula Latte]

10. You know, seriously, it's interesting, because Oregon is not a wealthy state

It ranks in the middle. It's not particularly well-educated, either. I think it's about middling on that, too, as a whole. There are plenty of rural communities (Portland and Eugene have the only population bases of any note), and many people are struggling (forestry, salmon fishing, etc. are in the crapper). Yet ... We love Obama.

Why? My theory is that the ocean breezes and all the oxygen from the ginormous trees here clear peoples' heads. :hide:

[roguevalley]

48. its the intense beauty, Oregonian. the mountains, deserts and

valleys. we want to give it to our kids. that makes us realists and forward moving.

[msallied]

62. I think it's because there isn't a deep-seated culture of racism out here.

We're a hell of a lot more enlightened. Hell, I even like most of the rednecks here. I grew up in Southwest, OH so trust me when I say I know rednecks. lol

[Shae]

63. I love your theory! nt

[bhikkhu]

69. I'll second that.

And add that the clean air East of the mountains it a tonic against foolish delusions.

[lumpy]

70. Lived for 11 years in the Portland area and never experienced

those ocean breezes but a lot of inversion smog. Have to go to the Oregon coast to get those breezes and to the woods and highlands to clear our heads. I love Oregon tho', wonderful state great people.

[LordJFT]

74. it is pretty well-educated

78% of the voters had college degrees

[Clark2008]

78. I think, quite truthfully, it's that the South has ONLY conservative

talk radio. Seriously, NPR isn't broadcast on stations powerful enough to carry it down the street and, with the exception of some Air America-type shows in Memphis, Atlanta, Austin and a sprinkling of other places - the entire lay of the land down here hears ONLY Limpballs, Insannity, Savage and that other dude - the "libertarian" (Republican who isn't a Thumper)... Neil Boortz.

We really aren't told of Democratic ideals from Democrats. We're told by conservatives how those evvvuuulll libruuuls think. Yeah, right.

[SoCalDem]

11. She only WINS when The Rush-bots and racists push her past the finish line

since SC , at least.. before that people voted for her on name recognition.. the same reason they mindlessly pick up Colgate, instead of ACME Tooth Cleaner :)

after SC, the ONLY glimmer of hope she has had is Operation Chaos & appealing to the lowest educated, poorest and racist among us.. What a sad legacy to end the Clinton influence.. Racebaiting, fear and screams of sexism, when she cannot get intelligent, informed people to vote for her..

pathetic:(

[tblue37]

36. Name recognition is also why Lieberman had "Joementum" at the start of the 2004

primary, and why he still defeated Lamont in Connecticut, despite having failed to win the Dem primary. People didn't knwo what he stood for, but they knew his name and that he had been their Senator for some time.

[rucky]

13. She'd win it in the GE

if she were the nominee.

[NeedleCast]

26. Kentukey?

ROFL!

Yeah, right. Dry that out and you can fertilize the lawn.

[rucky]

83. This thread is about Oregon.

Why would a republican state go Hillary when they can have the real thing?

[Zhade]

39. You have no way of knowing that whatsoever.

Happily, Obama will likely (see what I did there?) win it in the GE.

[K Gardner]

14. Why don't we see any PIERCING ANALYSIS on MSM about THIS issue??

[Swamp Rat]

15. Because Bill "did not inhale."

Weed connoisseurs in oregon are still angry. :D

[Zhade]

40. ...

:spray:

Nice!

[nonconformist]

16. Why couldn't Obama win California? Or Massachusetts? nt

[Bicoastal]

22. Why are they polling in favor of Obama NOW?

[Zhade]

45. Because people have woken up to exactly the kind of dishonest person clinton is.

NT!

[gabeana]

44. actually if the election was held now Obama

would win california, don't have the link but sure someone can find it

[TahitiNut]

18. It's perplexing. After all, they DO like Beavers.

:silly: :dunce:

:hide:

[Doityourself]

20. ha ha...you know you're gonna get a sexism charge right..lol

[TahitiNut]

25. (blush) Yeah ... and just because I like beavers, too. (If I recall, that is.)

There has been, however, no time in my life that character, values, intellect, and humor have taken a second place to any of that. No matter how 'active' my libido has been, I just can't regard people as "objects." (Thank god for that "wiring.")

:shrug:

[stevedeshazer]

29. Beavers are roadkill here

Like armadillos in Texas.

[TahitiNut]

33. Better not say that in Corvallis - unless you've got a lot of Ducks to back you.

[stevedeshazer]

38. Okay, I'm out. A Ducks fan.

:)

[TahitiNut]

43. Yeah... my heart's in Eugene, I guess. I love it there.

Great town... great school.

If I had to be in Oregon, and not doing whitewater down the Rogue or whatever, I'd want to be in Eugene.

[roguevalley]

51. if you look really closely, just down from Medford is Central Point.

MY BELOVED HOME TOWN, in the AWESOME ROGUE VALLEY!

[TahitiNut]

54. Kewl! Whitewater AND the Shakepeare Festival! Good times.

:thumbsup: I hear Ashland is a nice college town. (They have municipal fiber-to-the-curb, too.)

[lumpy]

72. Central Point..ah.. do they still produce the best blue cheese?

We used to get it by the wheel and eat it with a fork.

[lumpy]

71. Rogue River, Grants Pass, Gold Beach, Canon Beach

I am homesick for Oregon

[davidpdx]

73. Ha! I'm from that area as well

A big shout out to Jackson and Josephine County for voting for Obama!

I have to say I was pretty sure he'd win Jaokson County, but Josephine County shocked me.

[VotesForWomen]

76. bet you got one of those monkey t-shirts, don't you? you know, just for a joke.

[TahitiNut]

88. No, I've never been a Curious George fan. You?

:eyes:

[TexasObserver]

23. Oregon has too many hard working white people!

[milkyway]

27. Hillary the fighter sent up the white flag on Oregon long ago, only making a token effort there. She

only "fights" in states she knows she will win.

Bizarre strategy for someone so far behind, desperate to reverse the flow of supers, that she would surrender Oregon and settle for a split tonight. She can't catch up in the supers' minds by throwing in the towel on states like North Carolina and Oregon.

[roseBudd]

30. Why can't she close the deal!

[DevonRex]

31. It's 125% black, of course. And they're all black MEN. nt

[Justitia]

55. ROFL!

[Zhade]

34. BECAUSE it's a progressive state.

NT!

[Life Long Dem]

35. Give it a minute.

Hillary come up with something new with framing the KY win around why she should be the nominated candidate.

[cascadiance]

37. Because they're too "secular"!...

Her Fellowship membership hasn't prepared her for that atmosphere...

I recall seeing some statistics earlier that Oregon, of all states in this country has a population with the least amount of people centrally belonging to one religion. There are a lot of different religions and a lot of agnostics and atheists, but it is unique in that there really isn't any one dominant religion in any region that much. And that diversity, in my book, makes it a damn cool state!

And I would submit, with that sort of demographics, I'm guessing that it correlates very highly to many Oregonians thinking for themselves a lot moreso than other states, which I'm sure is something that Hillary's campaign hates, since they are used to having followers that like to be told what to do...

[ClayZ]

42. K and R

[roseBudd]

47. IT IS EXTREMELY WORRISOME!!!!!!

[Reader Rabbit]

49. 'Cause we saw her drink dat crap beer in Pennsylvania.

That shit don't play in Beervana. :beer:

:P

[polticalpout]

57. The most microbrews per square mile than any else in the world, correct?

Lucky bastards, we have a pissweiser brewery here.

[Reader Rabbit]

84. Yup! Mmmmmmm, beer!

If you've got time off this summer, why not come out to the Oregon Brew Fest?

It's malt and hop-a-licious! :9

[The Ghost]

52. Kick.

And hes winning WHITE WOMEN and WHITE WORKING CLASS VOTES in Oregon, per MSNBC. In a DEM state.

Thats all!

[Beacool]

56. It's the demographics.

Very liberal, plenty of latte drinkers or should I say Kool-Aid drinkers? Same as WA.


:shrug:

[ampad]

68. WA is a great state

And I'm sure Oregon is just as great. I have lived in many states and I have to say WA is the most beautiful thus far. I have also meet the most open, intelligent liberals who care deeply about this country. There are tons of activist in Seattle Washington, one of the best cities this country has.

I just love how some of you Hillary supporters insult entire Liberal states as kool-aid drinkers and elitist just because those people were smart enough to see through Hillary's bullshit. I guess you Hill supporters have your priorities all in a quirk: pandering to the racist why liberals and activist are the kool-aid drinking, educated, elitist. Sine when did being liberal and enjoying a latte become a no no but being racist and dumb are all admirable traits? I believe that if more Americans were latte drinkers we would have a president Kerry instead of dumb ass Bush. Maybe Hillary should of had a latte the day she decided to vote for the Iraq war cause we all know it's the lattes that are making people smart. :eyes:

[Cha]

58. Oregon is way too smart for

hilary's racist pandering lies.

[graycem]

59. Because.. it's full of

"liberals" and Pennsyginialtucky is full of "conservative" Democrats. I think I read a supporter say that somewhere around this place. B-)

[Bensthename]

61. Too many educated voters their. She never does well with them.

Those bastards.

[mistertrickster]

64. Good question! Why can't she clinch the deal with educated liberals? nt

[Writer]

67. Honestly? Because she doesn't scrapbook.

:P

[VotesForWomen]

75. well, if anyone who won't vote for O is a racist, maybe anybody who won't vote for hill is a sexist.

just sayin.

[ima_sinnic]

86. right!! Oregon is FULL OF SEXISTS!

or could it be, they're wise to her shit and don't want another cycle of the same old same old Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton war mongering corporate greed-head backroom deal politics?

[datopbanana]

77. TOO MANY WHITE PEOPLE!

[indimuse]

79. HOW much MORE $$$ did BO spend ther?

And still his #'s went DOWN! HIllary Kicked his ass the last few and you know it Obama LOSER!

[me b zola]

80. Yeah, Obama raises more $$ from real people than Hillary

Could it be because more real people support Obama? :think:

[indimuse]

81. and she's STILL kicking his ASS!

[me b zola]

87. In what universe?

Your candidate, who had the advantage of a strong political machine in place for 20 years and all of the priceless name recognition, not only lost the nomination, but now in fits of sour grapes is intent on destroying the Democratic nominee.

You know, as a Democrat I'm mad as hell that for the past 7 years we have been forced to live in an alternate reality that bush* & company created. Remember how if you listened to the media you would have thought that everyone was a conservative evangelical and anyone who wasn't hated the baby Jesus and the US? How only Democratic women were in favor of reproductive rights, how everyone in the military supported bush* and his illegal & immoral war? How liberal was a dirty word and anti-American? Remember that f*cked-up alternate reality that the gop had created through smoke & mirrors?

If you remember, you should be ashamed for participating in creating Hillary's alternate reality. I am a feminist who is mad as hell that Hillary and her surrogates believe that they are speaking for me. She lost the nomination, yet she and her supporters persist in creating some bizzar-o world where she is still viable. Her goal is nothing more at this point than to tear down the Democratic nominee.

Don't try to peddle Hillary's crap to me.

[datopbanana]

82. What a delusional post/poster

His poll average was +10. He won +16. That is UP not down.

[ima_sinnic]

85. and she didn't spend $$ there because --?

BECAUSE NOBODY IS CONTRIBUTING TO HER CAMPAIGN!! SHE'S BANKRUPT!!!

if she were "kicking Obama's ass," wouldn't people be sending in the campaign dollars!
THEY'D BE VOTING FOR HER!

too bad, so sad, your corrupt widdle fake "democrat" has LOST.