Hillary supporters: Doesn't Obama's sexism make you sick?

[last1standing]

Since it seems it takes hatred to get anyone to read a damned post around here, I've changed the title to reflect the current attitude of DU.

The real question is:
Hillary supporters: If Obama were to begin a new push for the ERA, would you vote Obama in the GE?

I've always been a big fan of the Equal Rights Amendment and was pissed (but not surprised) when it was effectively killed in 1981. However, there is a new version in congress now that does not contain the deadline that doomed the original.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Rights_Amendment
http://www.eracampaign.net/
http://www.4era.org/

If Obama were to make the codification of the new ERA a staple of his run for the presidency, would that make you more, or less, likely to vote for him in November?



Note: I know it's lousy to pull a switch up like this but it's even lousier that honest questions and discussions are pushed out so that a few hatemongers can continue to insult each other and try to damage the Democratic party.

[niyad]

1. has he even hinted at this?

I haven't heard anything from him about the ERA.

[last1standing]

3. Neither candidate has said much about it, unfortunately.

It just struck me that with all the talk of sexism on the board today that I'd like to know if reviving the ERA would help Hillary supporters in voting for Obama in the fall.

[leftofcool]

7. It has been dead so long, I don't know if it can be revived

by any candidate. You will still have the status quo in Congress.........a bunch of old white haired men who don't give a shit, even if Obama does care.

[last1standing]

9. My thinking is that with a large enough majority progressives will have a greater voice.

When Dems were in the minority or at a near tie, it was the centrists who held all the power because they could make or break any bill. However, if we can pick up 4-6 senate seats and a dozen more house seats we will have a strong majority that doesn't need the Lieberman faction to get things done.

I agree it's a small chance, but it's certainly better with a large majority than a small one.

[leftofcool]

2. It would just be pandering

[last1standing]

5. No doubt, but it would still be a great thing to do.

I'd love to see the ERA finally pass.

As a sidenote, can I ask how you voted?

[leftofcool]

8. In my primary, I voted for Hillary

I can not speak for the many groups of women that have sprung up in the last 6 months angry over the sexism in the media or for any one woman but myself, but I could give you a small list of things that Obama could do publically on television that would not only get him my vote in the GE but would also lend him my greatest respect. Unfortunately, those things can't be posted in DU without a bunch of nitwits calling me either a "racist or "not a real democrat" or a multitude of other things Obama supporters like to call Hillary supporters.

[last1standing]

10. You could always PM them to me. I promise to treat your ideas respectfully.

Even if I don't agree with them.

But I was really asking how you voted in this poll. Sorry, I should have been more clear.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

20. What is it you want him to do that would get you called those things?

Maybe there's a reason for it? :shrug:

[book_worm]

4. Oh come on, by November most Hillary supporters will vote for Obama.

[last1standing]

6. Polls don't capture the future, they capture the present.

If they're lucky.

I want to see what the feeling would be today.

[LizW]

11. If Obama

left Michelle, married me, and brought my mother to live with us in the White House, I would vote for him.

I figure those things are about as likely as his beginning a new push for passage of the ERA.

[last1standing]

12. You might be surprised.

If any good comes from the solidarity many feminists have shown with the Hillary campaign, it could be a renewed interest in the ERA.

Perhaps now that so many have made their voices heard, they should channel that into something that will make a difference in their lives.

[last1standing]

13. Strange, I thought there'd be more Hillary supporters interested in equal rights.

I know more than 11 Clinton supporters are reading GD: P right now based on other threads so I would think they'd want to weigh in on something as beneficial as the ERA.

[last1standing]

14. Kicking with new title.

n/t

[BlooInBloo]

16. hahahaha!!!!

[last1standing]

19. I've posted 5 threads in a row that have sunk because the didn't insult anyone.

Do you remember when not too long ago, it was actually against the rules to insult people or create flamebait? Now, flamebait is the only thing that sells here, yet some of us would like to have real discussions pertaining to the primary that isn't allowed in GD.

The real problem with DU now isn't that Clinton supporters are being pushed out, it's that people who want to discuss real issues are.

[BlooInBloo]

21. It's silly season.

[last1standing]

23. Silly season or not, there should be a place for those who want to discuss, not flame.

If anyone has been pushed aside at DU in this primary it's those who prefer rational discussion.

Yet, in a few weeks, all the flamers here will be again posting threads about those stupid freepers and how they can't understand logic. :eyes:

[WeDidIt]

15. Other

I believe Barack Obama always has and always will support equal rights for all people regardless of <insert bogus reason for denying equal rights here>.

[last1standing]

17. I'm sure they both do.

But the question is whether it would help if he highlighted it during the campaign. There's a lot of talk about sexism on the board and I want to know if this would help.

Of course it's a hypothetical, but then 99% of the discussion on this board is hypothetical.

[demokatgurrl]

18. I still can't find evidence of Obama's sexism-

can someone find me an anti-woman speech or article or sexist slur?

[OzarkDem]

22. First, it would show lack of knowledge of women's issues

Second, it would also show a lack of knowledge about how contstitutional amendments work. The president or Congress would have little control over it.

Should the ERA be passed? Of course.

Will it address the problems women face today? No.


Why would we want to take the time to educate a candidate in depth about such important issues, particularly when that candidate has only a slim chance of winning the GE?

Why not support the candidate who has much deeper knowledge of public policy on issues like this one and others; a candidate who is already polling stronger against the opposition and stands a much greater chance of being elected president?

[last1standing]

25. What are today's women's issues that the ERA doesn't address?

And would it not be better to have a president who needs to be brought up to speed, as you say, versus one who actively disagrees with the protections the ERA endorses?

Lastly, while the president has no direct control over legislation until it hits they're desk, they DO have incredible power to influence it. I believe highlighting the new ERA would be a great boon.

[Avalux]

24. I don't think the ERA amendment has anything to do with it.

Women who support Hillary to a fault (refusing to vote for Obama), don't strike me as strong feminists. They are stuck in some sort of vindictive world where they're talking out their man hate on Obama.

If they truly were feminists and cared about women; they would do everything in their power to keep McCain from office since he has promised to appoint ultra-conservative judges to the SC.

[last1standing]

27. That's one of the things I'd like this poll to tell me.

So far, I'm not encouraged by the numbers. While the majority will vote for Obama and are supportive of the ERA, a solid minority would still not support him.

[last1standing]

26. So far 44% of Hillary supporters would not vote for Obama if he highlighted the ERA.

And not one would give him their support for doing so.

I'd love to hear some more Hillary supporters explain their vote in this poll.

Edited to publish correct number. I must be my cold. :blush:

[StevieM]

28. I'm a man and I'm not sure what I will do. I would like Obama to start showing basic human decency

towards others. I think he is a vindictive, manipulative egomaniac. I am terrified at the thought of him being president.

But the Supreme Court is kind of important too.

I don't think it matters much. Obama won't win the GE no matter how I vote.

Steve

[Count Dousiche]

30. Ha! Ha! I'm not sure that's true.

I think Obama has a good chance of winning the GE. And your vote certainly would help.

[Coexist]

29. I voted for the first option

for that woman here who wants to but feels she is betraying Hillary by that act.

This one's for you!