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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 10:20 PM
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Clinton donor meeting with Dean in Tampa tonight..she needs to stay in "anything can happen."
Edited on Mon May-19-08 10:58 PM by madfloridian
I hate it when any of her supporters or backers talk that way. It sounds like they are "expecting" something to happen about or to Obama. Like hovering vultures.

None of them appear to be saying that much at all. In the video it does sound like there is less anger and vitriol. Fingers crossed. Three people comment, including two Clinton donors...former mayor Sandy Freedman and another Clinton donor, Ana Cruz.

Video.

Summary of Tampa fundraiser

More from an article:

Howard Dean in Tampa Preaches Democratic Unity

TAMPA — Even as top Democrats were trying to unify their party Monday night to begin focusing on November, the unresolved presidential primary continued to loom as Sen. Hillary Clinton planned to return to Florida on the same day Barack Obama is expected to also return to the state.

Clinton’s campaign made plans to be in South Florida on Wednesday, the same day Obama is scheduled to address a crowd of 20,000 at a rally in downtown Tampa. The battle for attention in Florida ran contrary to the message Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean tried to convey Monday to about 50 top Democrats at a private fundraising dinner in downtown Tampa. Dean slipped in and out of the Mise en Place restaurant through a side door to avoid speaking with media that sought to interview him.

Though Dean wasn’t talking to the media, Democrats who attended the meeting said the party leader focused on the need for the party to come together. He also said that the fight over Florida’s delegates will be resolved next week.


I believe really that the Clinton campaign are waiting for "something", you know with the quotations...to happen to Obama. It gives an ominous tone when her supporters say that.

But Auslander, a Clinton supporter, said he is not ready to get behind Obama as long as Clinton remains in the race.

“I understand why she stays in,” he said, “because anything can happen.”

Ana Cruz, a Clinton activist from Tampa invited into the session with Dean, said by attending the meeting she was in no way conceding victory to Obama. Cruz said Clinton should continue to push on. She said the meeting was designed to begin building a strategy for how to proceed regardless of who wins the nomination.


Apparently her Florida donors want her to stay in the race.




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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 10:31 PM
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1. 20,000 expected for Obama Wednesday..bet tickets are gone.
Amazing.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:00 PM
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2. By this morning only a few remained at the Dem office.
Some friends heard they were gone by now.
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ruby slippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:09 PM
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7. I have one but I may not be able to use it now. Got it online.
There is the fundraiser in Maitland, too.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:06 PM
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5. 20, 000 in Tampa! This is interesting, mad..thanks.
"Dean’s visit comes two days before Barack Obama’s first visit to Florida since November. Obama will begin a three-day campaign swing in Florida on Wednesday, including a noon rally at the St. Pete Times Forum and a rare appearance, for a Democratic candidate, before a conservative Cuban-American group in Miami later in the week.

I hope that goes well.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:01 PM
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3. Just force her out. The longer this goes on the more bitter everyone will get.
Better to get it all over with now then to elongate the grieving process.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:04 PM
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4. makes me wonder what kind of...
Edited on Mon May-19-08 11:05 PM by stillcool47
"Catastrophic Event" these people are hoping for...
Sun May 11, 2008
Analysis: Could Clinton land the VP nomination?

Several Clinton associates say there is still a ray of hope among some in her campaign: that a "catastrophic" revelation
about Obama might make it possible for her to win the presidential nomination. But barring that, Hillary and Bill Clinton recognize that her candidacy is being abandoned and rejected by superdelegates whom she once expected to win over and that, even if she were to win the popular vote in combined primary states, she will almost certainly be denied the nomination.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/10/bernstein.clinton/index.html?section=cnn_latest


Clinton campaign on ropes
BY JOHN GUERRIERO
john.guerriero@timesnews.com

Published: May 08. 2008 6:00AM
Murray, who has supported Bill and Hillary Clinton since 1991, said these are tough times for people like him who are in the Clinton camp but want to unify the party.

"The sense is, absent some catastrophic event that would take place in this campaign, it's going to be very difficult to see a path to victory for Hillary given what happened" Tuesday, Murray said.

http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080508/NEWS02/805080437



CBSNews.com Reports: N.Y. Senator Now Faces Nearly Impossible Odds To Capturing Democratic Nomination
May 7, 2008

Clinton's Path To Victory Slipping Away
There is one scenario which does work for Clinton and that’s a massive movement of superdelegates leaving Obama and supporting her. The party leaders could do that, but it would take some unforeseen development in the race between now and the convention for them to do so. Obama, in some way, would have to be rendered so unelectable that the party rejects him at the convention. That’s not much to hang a hat on but it’s starting to look like her best option.

And even that might not be a viable option, said Joe Trippi. “Even if the catastrophic thing existed or happened, if she were perceived to have caused it, I think it would end her campaign too,” Trippi said. I don’t think there’s any way now for her to gain the nomination. She’s at the point now where if she tries to make a case against Obama, it will actually speed up superdelegates joining his cause just to shut the campaign down.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/05/07/politics/main4078586.shtml
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:07 PM
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6. They live in a bushit bubble where reality
need not apply.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:09 PM
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8. What a bunch of sad people.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:09 PM
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9. I'M TEACHING AT 11AM!!! I CAN'T GO TO THE RALLY!
DAMN!
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:17 PM
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10. Who is Hillary?
Is she that former presidential candidate? Bless her heart.

Remember how competitive of a race it was?
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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:29 PM
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14. Right. The feisty one.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:19 PM
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11. They thought their candidate was inevitable. Thats the what it is
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ruby slippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:22 PM
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12. funny that she just decided to come to Florida....on our local
news, the anchor had an email out to the candidates and just as he was going on air he said he had "just received" an email from the Clinton campaign that they would be in Florida. He is trying to get them to come to NE Florida. He said that the "Obama handlers" had told him that Obama was not coming here at this time. But, this is McCain country anyway, and Hillary had been here during the time that she promised not to campaign here. While it wasn't official campaigning, she did hold a fundraiser as I was asked if I wanted to go. I chose not to. But, anyway, I bet she comes to NE Florida to grab votes before Obama gets here.

OBAMA staffers, you NEED to get him HERE!!!!!
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:22 PM
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13. Anything CAN happen...
and by "anything," I mean that Obama will, by this time tomorrow night, clinch the majority of pledged delegates and Hillary will be left to plead to any remaining SDs to commit to her campaign....a campaign that has lost in every single metric in the primaries and, for good measure, is $30+ million in debt.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:31 PM
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16. It's the other way around.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:34 PM
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17. You are the 5th person here today who said Obama can't win the GE
I so very much resent that. I don't know how it flies here at DU.

It is just plain ridiculous to say it.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:45 PM
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18. "Ding dong, the witch it dead"
Someone tell Hillary to click her heels and go back to the Senate. :rofl:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:46 PM
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19. You have to "win" the primary to get the nomination. It's called "The Rules"
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:40 AM
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20. As far as I can tell, tickets for Obama nearly gone.
And the media shows the Clinton supporters still swearing allegiance to the death for her.

Let the party die, let McCain win....I think they will go to their graves for her even though she is losing.

No wonder Dean slipped out through a back door after the meeting.

He must have felt like he were talking to the wind.

Hillary is not losing because she is a woman, she is losing because she has run a terrible campaign based on divisiveness and anger.

She is losing because she listened to the Mark Penns and Howard Wolfsons of the world and used their ugly tactics.

She does not care if she destroys our party. Nor does Bill Clinton care. It is all about them.

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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:44 AM
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21. Anything can frigging happen to *her* too
I hate this crap. :eyes:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:49 AM
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22. It is geared to anger us. And divide.
She is losing because she has been running a nasty campaign.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:50 AM
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23. All she needs to do is suspend her campaign, she keeps her delegates and if "something" happens
she can always jump into the race again.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:06 PM
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24. Lordy, just saw that Ana Cruz on local TV.
She said it is not over until it is over.

No wonder Dean left by the side door. In the video she was one saying they were sitting face to face.

Not over until it is over. Wow.

She is a Clinton surrogate here.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:07 PM
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25. Obama rally sold out completely earlier according to news.
Huge arena.
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