For Obama supporters only: Is Sam Nunn an acceptable VP choice

[dsc]

I have seen way too much of Sam Nunn recently to discount the notion that someone is pushing him for VP for Obama. In some respects I see the reasoning. But he is a bigot plain and simple. I am presuming that some Obama people read this site to get some idea of Democratic activist ideas. Please send a message.

Note: acceptable means exactly what it implies. You can live with it. Not your preferred choice, not the best choice, but acceptable.
Note: Hillary supporters do not vote.

[anonymous171]

1. I don't care that much what his VP is, as long as it isn't Lieberman.

[Ian David]

2. What if he picks McCain?

Not that it's very likely.

But WHAT IF?

[dsc]

9. what if he picked David Duke

for many gays Nunn is David Duke

[anonymous171]

11. Point taken.

[Rhiannon12866]

16. Well, that would just be stupid. Lieberman hasn't exactly made friends among the Democrats, lately.

But he'd probably be a sensible choice for McCain...:shrug:

[rpannier]

19. Ed Koch???

[newmajority]

28. Another right wing bigot.

No thanks to him or Nunn.

[tpsbmam]

30. Oh hell.....

you just ruined my night! :puke:

[rpannier]

32. My apologies

But he did say he didn't care as long as it wasn't LIEberman.
And ed 'democrats for scrub' koch immediately came to mind

[PM7nj]

3. No.

But if he is I will still vote for Obama.

[David Dunham]

4. He's too old -- at least 69

[Ian David]

5. If your DREAM Candidate chose your Worst Nightmare for the VP slot, would you still vote for them?

See also:

If your DREAM Candidate chose your Worst Nightmare for the VP slot, would you still vote for them?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5987940

[Rhiannon12866]

20. We all voted for Al Gore...

:shrug:

[Ian David]

46. Yeah, but LIEberman hadn't turned to The Dark Side yet. n/t

[IndianaGreen]

6. Nunn's disgusting opposition to gays in the military disqualifies him for VP

We don't need homophobes like Nunn!

[anonymous171]

8. Economic/Foreign policy conservatives (not neocons) only. No social conservatives.

That is, if he had to choose a conservative at all.

[Rhiannon12866]

18. He'd better pick a conservative to balance the ticket. I mean, he's the most "liberal" member of

the Senate. No, wait! That's Hillary Clinton! No, I was mistaken! It's John Kerry! No, I forgot, it's Ted Kennedy! No, it's John Edwards! I'm confused...:crazy:

Edited for punctuation. Silly me...:blush:

[anonymous171]

34. Why do we always pick the most liberal member of the senate?

You'd think we'd learn by now. :silly:

[Rhiannon12866]

44. I know! But it's kind of a self-fulfilling prophesy...

We pick somebody and that makes them liberal!:scared:

[LostinVA]

7. I'm a Hillary supporter, but absolutely NOT

The man is a raging bigot.

[yardwork]

36. Thank you, Lost! How are you doing?

[TheFarseer]

10. I don't know enough about him

I guess he's conservative or something. Almost anyone with Obama would be acceptable to me though.

[MrSlayer]

12. Not to me.

Wes Clark.

[Rhiannon12866]

13. Not hardly. There are a lot of qualified possibilities out there, but Sam Nunn is not one of them,

and certainly wouldn't do Barak Obama any good... Yikes!x(

[femmocrat]

14. I doubt if it will be Nunn.

I like Richardson, but I think Obama will surprise us.

[saltpoint]

15. Obama gets his own choice but I'd rather he pass on Nunn.

[Thrill]

17. Sam Nunn plus a motivated Black and Young vote= A BLUE GEORGIA

[Perky]

21. he is not an obvious choice and he is not a bad choice.. I am notsure he buys us Georgia.

Sam is loved in GA, but I am not sure that would be enough alone to flip the state unless Bob Barr is the libertarian candidate. That would siphon off enough North Atlanta Republicans to make GA interestersing and probably put it into play.


Losing Georgia would mean we win the election. I am just not sure why ypu would want Sam Nunn more tha Bob Graham who would put Florida in play,

[last1standing]

22. No. Not only does he not draw in voters, he is offensive to me and many other GLBTs.

I would still be compelled to vote for the ticket but my opinion of Obama would definitely suffer greatly as would my enthusiasm.

[chascarrillo]

47. Exactly. I doubt that even a lot of Georgia folk remember who he is.

[cloudythescribbler]

23. I'd still vote for Obama ANYWAY, but YUCK! how about Barbara Boxer, or another popular female ...

and NOT Hillary?

[goclark]

43. I'm with you on Boxer

[Clear Blue Sky]

24. Nunn has good military experience.

Wasn't he head of the armed services committee for a long time?

[woolldog]

25. I've cooled on the idea of him

since he's so old.

[invictus]

26. No, Sam Nunn is too conservative. I want someone who represents the future, not the past. n/t

[mucifer]

27. some other icky stuff

here's what wikipedia says:

During his tenure in the U.S. Senate, Senator Nunn served as chairman of the powerful U.S. Senate Committee on Armed Services and the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations. He also served on the Intelligence and Small Business Committees. His legislative achievements include the landmark Department of Defense Reorganization Act, drafted with the late Senator Barry Goldwater, and the Nunn-Lugar Cooperative Threat Reduction Program,<2> which provides assistance to Russia and the former Soviet republics for securing and destroying their excess nuclear, biological and chemical weapons. To date, the Nunn-Lugar Cooperative Threat Reduction program has deactivated more than 5,900 nuclear warheads. He was supposedly a top choice to be Secretary of Defense or State in 1992 and 1996 and in a prospective Gore cabinet in 2000.

Overall, Nunn was a moderate-to-conservative Democrat<5> who often broke with his party on a host of social and economic issues. He strongly opposed the budget bill of 1993, which included provisions to raise taxes in order to reduce the deficit. He was also vehement in his opposition to President Bill Clinton's proposal to allow homosexuals to serve openly in the military.<6><7> He voted in favor of school prayer, capping punitive damage awards, amending the U.S. Constitution to require a balanced budget, and limiting death penalty appeals. On certain issues like abortion, the environment, gun control, and affirmative action, Nunn took a more moderate line. He consistently voted in favor of increased immigration.<8> One of his most controversial votes was his vote against the Gulf War. <9>


ok some of the stuff was good the antigulf war stuff and the securing loose nukes but the death penalty and environment and affirmative action crap oy vey!

[ecdab]

29. Nunn isn't a pick I would like - but it ain't all about me.

[elfin]

31. Too old, among other reasons

Graham is better - also Dodd - to add "experience", "gravitas" etc. etc.

I still really like Dodd.

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[yardwork]

35. No, Nunn is unacceptable. Much too conservative and bigoted.

Many better VP choices for Obama than Nunn.

[MediaBabe]

37. Cause we don't want any Hillary supporter's opinions

For Obama supporters only. Isn't it a little late in the day to be silencing half the Democratic Party? When exactly does the unity thing begin?

[Renew Deal]

38. I don't know why his name is out there.

I've been seing it, but I don't know where it's coming from.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

39. Hard "no."

[Rowdyboy]

40. If the Democratic party picks Obama I will support him....if Obama picks Nunn....

I will reluctantly support them. What matters to me more than anything else is who picks the next 4 justices to the supreme court, in other words, the next president. If Obama is my partys pick, I really don't give a shit who he wants as vp-one is about as good as another. Sam Nunn is a good man, far closer to me than any Republican. Do I want him as a leader? Hell no. Would he be better than Bush? Obviosuly....

[dsc]

49. and if something happens to Obama

then Nunn makes those choices.

[Douglas Carpenter]

41. Sen. Nunn is a very strong skeptic of American policy toward Iran and he is someone who very much

understands the limitations of military power.

He has a sophisticated understanding of the Middle East and I would find him very much a pragmatist and realist on foreign policy; perhaps in an old-style conservative sort of way -- but this is a lot safer than the mad men of the neoconservative movement and their equivalents in the Democratic Party.

On social issues, well yes that's another matter.

[graycem]

42. I doubt very seriously

that he is even being considered, and if he is, I would at that point probably question Obama's judgment. There are way too many superior choices, Hillary for starters.

[Rhiannon12866]

45. I agree. And Senator Obama has already proven himself to be a very smart guy...

I'd question his judgment, too. But I think he's already thought this through, and I would bet that Nunn is not on his list...:crazy:

[FredScuttle]

48. Sam Nunn? Why don't we consider "Scoop" Jackson while we're at it?

Oh right....he's dead