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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:08 AM
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Bush Compares Obama To Nazi Appeasers
President Bush has said repeatedly that he would not insert himself into the presidential race, but that stance changed dramatically today during his trip to Israel. After likening Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to Osama bin Laden, Bush compared Barack Obama to Nazi appeasers:

"Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along," said Bush, in what White House aides privately acknowledged was a reference to calls by Obama and other Democrats for the U.S. president to sit down for talks with leaders like Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

"We have heard this foolish delusion before," Bush said in remarks to the Israeli Knesset. "As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American Senator declared: 'Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.' We have an obligation to call this what it is -- the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history."

Obama himself quickly responded to the comparison, calling it a false attack and listing past presidents who didn't think that diplomacy was such a bad idea:

"It is sad that President Bush would use a speech to the Knesset on the 6Oth anniversary of Israel's independence to launch a false political attack. It is time to turn the page on eight years of policies that have strengthened Iran and failed to secure America or our ally Israel."

"Instead of tough talk and no action, we need to do what Kennedy, Nixon and Reagan did and use all elements of American power -- including tough, principled, and direct diplomacy -- to pressure countries like Iran and Syria. George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists, and the President's extraordinary politicization of foreign policy and the politics of fear do nothing to secure the American people or our stalwart ally Israel."

It was only yesterday that Secretary of Defense Robert Gates argued that United States needed to engage with Iran:

"We need to figure out a way to develop some leverage . . . and then sit down and talk with them," Gates said. "If there is going to be a discussion, then they need something, too. We can't go to a discussion and be completely the demander, with them not feeling that they need anything from us."

UPDATE: What are the odds? Sen. Lieberman sides with Bush on this one:

"President Bush got it exactly right today when he warned about the threat of Iran and its terrorist proxies like Hamas and Hezbollah. It is imperative that we reject the flawed and naïve thinking that denies or dismisses the words of extremists and terrorists when they shout "Death to America" and "Death to Israel," and that holds that--if only we were to sit down and negotiate with these killers--they would cease to threaten us. It is critical to our national security that our commander-in-chief is able to distinguish between America's friends and America's enemies, and not confuse the two."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/15/bush-compares-obama-to-na_n_101859.html
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:10 AM
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1. Bushler has been asking Hitler for advice again.


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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:18 AM
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2. Bush has some nerve...but his family knows a little something about
Nazi appeasers don't they? They had one who worked directly with him if memory serves right.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:19 AM
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3. Bush's knowledge of history is severely impeded by lack of brain-cells.
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:20 AM
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4. Bush is the most unpopular president since Hoover (another Rep.). All he has to do is open his mouth
... and speak to leave no doubt that the man is a complete idiot with no ethics.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:20 AM
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5. can we deport Lieberman
To Isreal?
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:37 AM
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11. You really think they want him?
:evilgrin:
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:24 AM
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6. I expect nothing less from that vile little man.
The GOP is terrified of Obama (and Democrats in general) so Bush decides to badmouth him in a foreign country. I guess the question is - is anyone listening?

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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:29 AM
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7. There's a second issue that goes along with that...
...and that's the fact that McCain is NOT a popular candidate.

I had a conversation with a fundie-slash-evangelical friend yesterday. His head nearly exploded when he told me about this:

McCain accepts questionable invitation

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Election2008/Default.aspx?id=111524

John McCain is generating outrage among a border watch organization for accepting an invitation to a controversial Hispanic group.

Al Garza, national executive director of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, is expressing outrage over Senator McCain's (R-Arizona) planned attendance to the annual convention of the National Council of La Raza. Garza claims the group espouses the re-conquering of the southwestern United States for assimilation back into Mexico.

"They have one thing in mind, and that is the re-conquering of the United States," he maintains. "Although they are attempting to dupe the United States American citizen to believe that this is in fact an American movement of Hispanic descent to educate and inspire Hispanics," Garza notes.

Garza says in fact the issue has nothing to do with Hispanic Americans at all. "If you notice very carefully, they are catering not to the Hispanic per se, although they're using the term Hispanic," he continues. "They're in fact catering to illegal immigrants who want open borders."

He believes McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee for president, is not serving the best interests of American citizens by accepting an invitation from La Raza.


So McCain carries his own baggage among "the base," and no amount of Obama attacks is going to change that.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:37 AM
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12. Along the same lines -
Conservatives are very upset with McCain's pro-environment stance; they don't like it one bit he's been giving speeches about it. So yes - the GOP has major internal problems.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:31 AM
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8. Did he call him, "Barack Prescott Obama"? Or maybe "Barack Reagan Obama"?
Edited on Thu May-15-08 09:43 AM by IanDB1







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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:33 AM
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9. I think Bush really needs to listen to Robert Gates' daily briefing,
and not worry about how much is a brazilian.

:grr:
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:34 AM
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10. I think this was totally calculated
Edited on Thu May-15-08 09:34 AM by Annces
They want to make people afraid of voting for Obama. McCain will protect them from all the bad people.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:10 AM
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13. Obama answered immediately and Kerry was just on MSNBC
whacking * six ways till Sunday. People will not buy this neocon schtick. * is stupid if he thinks that at a 20something approval rating anyone will take him seriously.
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