Bush On Obama: 'Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.'

[kpete]

Bush On Obama/Dem's "Foolish Delusion":
'Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.'

May 15, 2008
Bush suggests Obama wants 'appeasement' of terrorists
Posted: 08:48 AM ET

In a particularly sharp blast from halfway around the world, President Bush suggested Thursday that Sen. Barack Obama and other Democrats are in favor of "appeasement" of terrorists in the same way U.S. leaders appeased Nazis in the run-up to World War II...

"We have heard this foolish delusion before," Bush said in remarks to the Israeli Knesset. "As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American Senator declared: 'Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.' We have an obligation to call this what it is — the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history."

..............

"There are good and decent people who cannot fathom the darkness in these men and try to explain their words away," said Bush. "This is natural. But it is deadly wrong. As witnesses to evil in the past, we carry a solemn responsibility to take these words seriously. Jews and Americans have seen the consequences of disregarding the words of leaders who espouse hatred. And that is a mistake the world must not repeat in the 21st century."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/15/bush-suggests-obama-wants-appeasement-of-terrorists/#more-7138

[zbdent]

1. Maybe grampy Prescott should have been a bit more stern with his business partner ...

[hokies4ever]

2. Who's grandpa Prescott?

As if I need another reason to hate Bush, but please do tell (or link).

[bicentennial_baby]

14. Here you go: "How Bush's grandfather helped the Nazis rise to power"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

[Ganja Ninja]

25. (Snip)

"Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

His business dealings, which continued until his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.

The evidence has also prompted one former US Nazi war crimes prosecutor to argue that the late senator's action should have been grounds for prosecution for giving aid and comfort to the enemy."

So long after the Senator in question made the statement Bush refers to his Grandfather was dealing with and profiting from his relationship with the Nazis.

[keep_it_real]

41. Maybe Jr is trying to make up w/ the Jews for his grandfather

[npincus]

43. apology not accepted

that stupid fuck thinks that all he has to do is shout "Hitler!" and Jews will fall in line like Pavlov's dog? I'll bet B*sh Sr. is wishing he'd pulled out of Barb before planting that crazy seed.

[RaleighNCDUer]

47. Actually he want Israel to be a strong state that encompasses all

of biblical Israel. He's a christian zionist, and he needs Isreal to hang in there until the temple is rebuilt, and Armageddon is launched, which will kill all but 144,000 Jews.

A REAL friend of Israel, that one.

[zbdent]

15. Grampy Prescott (Bush) had plenty of business dealings with Adolph Hitler and

Nazi Germany ... assets frozen when Germany declared war on the US ... Georgie shouldn't throw that stone ...

Of course, "Obama's madrassa (debunked) kindergarten" was fair game for the media, but Bush's lineage was off limits?

[GainesT1958]

19. Dub's grandfather, Sen. Prescott Bush, R-CT...

Who had particularly profitable business dealings with the Third Reich, before AND after the U.S. and Germany were at war...for which he paid a stiff legal price meted out by FDR.

I wondered in another thread whether Dub was in fact quoting his grandfather.

No matter...Dub showed us--and Israel--once again why he is "Mr. 21%", with an anchor!:eyes:

B-)

[rodeodance]

31. You need to learn some history. google is your friend

[knixphan]

34. Bingo!

[SpiralHawk]

3. "Appeasement is, um, evil. Smirk." - Commander AWOL

[midnight]

4. Didn't Bush's family tell him his grandpa did talk to Hilter.

[zbdent]

21. that would have required him to pay attention ... or do some research ...

and we all know that Mr. C-Student pResident was really good at that ...

[harun]

5. Disgusting. Is B*sh's public approval in single digits yet?

[yourguide]

6. Ah bush...

what an evil jackass.


The thing that is frightening is, how many HRC supporters will tout this as brilliant and accurate? They have embraced Fox which is only one step away from embracing this.

[BlueStater]

7. Which senator said that?

I couldn't find anything of the sort in a Google search. Is Chimpboy on the juice again?

[C_U_L8R]

11. Republican Senator William Edgar Borah

a Pat Buchanan style non-interventionist

[islandmkl]

8. this ignorant ass of a president doesn't even know his OWN FAMILY'S FUCKING HISTORY!!

...and assumes (correctly) that most of the rest of the world (us included) don't know, either...

FGB

[leveymg]

29. Thanks for that image - my favorite Clinton, Funkadelic George forever!

And, I agree about our ignorant ass so-called President. He's SO stupid! He probably doesn't even know that Grandpa's bank was seized under the Trading With the Enemy Act. Or, just maybe, he does, which makes him an evil little shit.

[chelsea0011]

9. It's no wonder he is considered the worst President ever.

He had no policy on Israel when he took office and Thomas O'Neils (Sec. of Treasury)book co-authored with Sussman(SP?) said as much. He said Bush came in with a laisse-faire approach of hands off in the Middle East and let them fight out amoung themselves.

[NJmaverick]

10. What asshole bush should have said was- "If only I had talked to Saddam

maybe we wouldn't have fucked up our Country by invading Iraq. Bush belongs in jail!

[last1standing]

12. Wouldn't it be ironic if bush* got Dixie Chicked for this?

n/t

[atreides1]

13. It was a Republican Senator who made that statement

Senator William Borah was affectionately known as the "Lion of Idaho" during his 33 years in the United States Senate. Elected as a Republican in 1907, Borah established himself as a prominent progressive with a fiercely independent spirit. This superb orator who had a knack for courting publicity was once named by Time magazine as the "most famed senator of the century." Despite his leading role in the creation of two constitutional amendments--establishing the graduated income tax and the direct election of Senators--Borah is best remembered for his impact on American foreign policy. In 1917, he was instrumental in the Senate's rejection of American entry into the League of Nations. In January, 1940, Borah suffered a brain hemorrhage and died. His funeral services were held in the Chamber of the United States Senate.


"Lord, if only I could have talked with Hitler, all this might have been avoided." Senator William Borah, (1865-1940, Idaho's Progressive Republican "Lion of Idaho"), when he heard that Hitler had invaded Poland. September of 1939

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

26. And the Republicans were against the war. (Before the war)

Isolationism was the word of the day.

[jefferson_dem]

16. Obama's Response -

:patriot:

It is sad that President Bush would use a speech to the Knesset on the 6Oth anniversary of Israel's independence to launch a false political attack. It is time to turn the page on eight years of policies that have strengthened Iran and failed to secure America or our ally Israel. Instead of tough talk and no action, we need to do what Kennedy, Nixon and Reagan did and use all elements of American power - including tough, principled, and direct diplomacy - to pressure countries like Iran and Syria. George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists, and the President's extraordinary politicization of foreign policy and the politics of fear do nothing to secure the American people or our stalwart ally Israel.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Bush_vs_Obama_on_Israel.html

[progressoid]

40. Hmmm...that sounds levelheaded and well reasoned.

Probably went completely over the heads of B* and his 27%.

[Barack_America]

17. Bush on Putin: "I looked the man in the eye. I was able to get a sense of his soul"

Enough said.

[workinclasszero]

18. Hmm... The only tanks rolling across borders lately are

the ones our fascist President sent rolling into Iraq in search of WMD's that never existed.

Americans are sick and tired of Bush's trumped up BS war to enrich Halliburton and the oil companies.

I hope President Obama gets us out of there ASAP. The Iraq dictator is dead, let the Iraqi people determine their own future.

To see what we could have done with all the money wasted in Iraq go here: http://3trillion.org/

To see the horrendous oceans of money thrown down the shithole in Iraq go here: http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home

[zbdent]

20. Also, I guess that Donald Rumsfeld's talk with Saddam Hussein a few months before

Hussein invaded Kuwait ... maybe that didn't go so well ... but he looked so happy in the video clip where he was shaking hands with Saddam ...

[C_U_L8R]

30. Speaking of Rumsfeld... Bush plagiarized his speech

he's what that old facsist Rummy had to say...
"Someone recently recalled one U.S. senator's reaction in September of 1939. Upon hearing that Hitler had invaded Poland to start World War II he exclaimed, "Lord, if only I had talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided." I recount that history, because once again, we face similar challenges in efforts to confront the rising threat of a new type of fascism, with the growing lethality and the increasing availability of weapons, can we truly afford to believe that somehow, some way, vicious extremists can be appeased?"

http://www.defenselink.mil/Speeches/Speech.aspx?SpeechI...

[Tatiana]

22. What a HYPOCRITE and a NATIONAL DISGRACE!

As if his own grandpappy, Prescott Bush, didn't help the Nazis stay in power.

Disgusting. Absolutely revolting.

[dipsydoodle]

23. How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power

Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.
The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

His business dealings, which continued until his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.

The evidence has also prompted one former US Nazi war crimes prosecutor to argue that the late senator's action should have been grounds for prosecution for giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

[calmblueocean]

24. Obama has never said he wants to talk to al Qaeda. What a liar.

And how is it "appeasement" when YOU'RE the invading army occupying a foreign country that never attacked you?

Foolish delusion is right. Bush needs some new meds.

[madrchsod]

27. dumb fuck did`t know it is one of the worse offenses

to bring up anything in relation to the nazi era in the Knesset....

there will be dancing in the streets across the world on nov 5 ......

[nomaco-10]

28. I am very fearful of what this maniacal nutcase....

might do in the next six months. He's got nothing to lose and that makes him even more dangerous.

[blogslut]

32. Not only OMG

But, OMG - Bush steals his speech ideas from right-wing keyboard warriors?:

http://groups.google.com.gy/group/alt.security.terrorism/msg/097a7889c7d1dea6
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22In+blaming+America+first+for+al-Qa%27ida+in+Iraq%27s+presence%22&btnG=Google+Search

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[Zachstar]

35. Looking forward to Bush going to Jail.

Fucking asshole. Trying to destroy support for the next president Abroad. Fuck him!

[slinkerwink]

36. That American Senator was a Republican!!!!!!!!!!!!

William Edgar Borah (http://en.wikipedia.org/...)
"Lord, if I could only have talked with Hitler, all this might have been avoided." —September 1939, upon hearing that Hitler had invaded Poland.

I'm not sure if this more subtle point will surface due to the amazing bluntness of the comment as a whole. We will see. If nothing else it goes to reinforce my belief that no one in the Bush administration thinks the internet exists.

[Window]

37. K/R.

:kick:

[Swamp Rat]

38. Bushler talks to Hitler all the time.

[WeDidIt]

39. I bet Kieth invokes Godwin's Law on his ass tonight. n/t

[nichomachus]

42. Is this man unaware that his family fortune came from the Nazis?

While Prescott's bank was closed under the Trading with the Enemy act, there is evidence that he continued his relationship with some Nazi leaders even after the end of the war.

[Prophet 451]

45. Probably

The disturbing thing I've noticed about Bush and his supporters for some time now is that they genuinely believe their own bullshit. Point this out to a Bushie and they'll instantly dismiss it as a smear, not because they know it's true but because they genuinely believe that. Same with Chimpy's AWOLness, same with anything. They live in their own dream world.

[nichomachus]

46. You're right n/t

[SIMPLYB1980]

44. You know what Shrub all I have to say is this.