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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:04 PM
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Likely Clinton win in W. Virginia won't derail Obama
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Hillary Clinton's expected victory in West Virginia Tuesday is unlikely to derail Sen. Barack Obama's path to the Democratic nomination, but it could renew questions about his ability to draw the support of white, blue-collar voters.

As polling places across West Virginia opened at 6:30 a.m., Clinton had a 40-point lead, according to an average of the most recent public opinion polls, and she is expected to be in Charleston, West Virginia, Tuesday night to celebrate what should be her large margin of victory.



With a relatively large percentage of older voters and blue-collar workers, a dearth of upscale voters and a tiny African-American population, West Virginia appears to be a perfect demographic fit for Clinton.

But even a landslide victory in tiny West Virginia, would bring only 28 delegates to Clinton. That may be too little, too late to keep Clinton in the hunt for the nomination.



She trails Obama in delegates won, states won and the popular vote so far this primary season. Clinton also now trails Obama when it comes to the support of superdelegates, and her campaign is $20 million in the red.

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http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/13/wv.primary/
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:05 PM
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1. Not unless WV is offering a 20 million dollar prize to the winner
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:07 PM
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2. 20 mil in debt - can you imagine??
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:09 PM
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3. Positively "Bushian"
:rofl:
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:09 PM
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4. This is a good point as Obama supporters scoff at the WV results.
" but it could renew questions about his ability to draw the support of white, blue-collar voters."
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:11 PM
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5. your name suits you.
:P

:hi:

*teasing*
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:04 PM
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6. No it doesn't.
That's like asking why the Lakers can't make three pointers when they are leading by 20 points with 1 minute left in the game - IT DOESN'T MATTER.

I...T I...S O...V...E...R

Time to unite and defeat the real opponent of Hillary - JOHN MCCAIN.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:09 PM
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7. Hillary memo..
Edited on Tue May-13-08 01:10 PM by indimuse
Hillary's Memo on Why West Virginia Matters
By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Tue May 13, 2008 at 12:29:05 PM EST
Tags: Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, 2008 (all tags) Share This:
The Hillary Clinton campaign sent out a memo today on why West Virginia's primary matters.

Shorter version: Obama may not have spent much time in West Virginia but he threw an awful lot of resources at it.

Some quotes below, but the link takes you to the full memo.


"Given the attempts by our opponent and some in the media to declare this race over, any significant increase in voter turnout, coupled with a decisive Clinton victory, would send a strong message that Democrats remain excited and energized by Hillary's candidacy,"

...."In the face of grim poll numbers, the Obama campaign has attempted to dismiss today's outcome despite the fact that Sen. Obama has outspent us on advertising, has more staff in the state, and more than double the number of offices. He has also benefited from the support of the most high-profile endorsers in West Virginia-Sen. Jay Rockefeller and Congressman Nick Rahall. By every measure, the Obama campaign has waged an aggressive campaign in the Mountain State."

It adds some facts on West Virginia:

The Mountain State is used to picking winners. Every nominee has carried the state's primary since 1976, and no Democrat has won the White House without winning West Virginia since 1916.

Democrats carried West Virginia in 1992 and 1996, but lost the state-and the White House--in 2000 and 2004. Hillary has predicted victory against Sen. McCain in West Virginia based on the strength of her economic message.

And closes with:

Sen. Clinton has already won Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida and Michigan. With a win in West Virginia, Sen. Clinton will have once again proven her greater ability to win in the key swing states.
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shagsak Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:36 PM
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8. my two scents...
"Given the attempts by our opponent and some in the media to declare this race over.."
When did he ever say that? Please provide a link. As far as I know he just has way more delegates and the popular vote, that doesn't mean he'll win, look at president bush.

"Democrats carried West Virginia in 1992 and 1996"
Not in the primaries, you're thinking about the general. THIS ISN'T THE GENERAL.

"Hillary has predicted victory against Sen. McCain in West Virginia based on the strength of her economic message."
Opinion as fact? Since when does she predict the future?

"Sen. Clinton has already won Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida and Michigan"
Didn't she sign an agreement that FL and MI wouldn't count after they broke the rules? Funny how they all of a sudden are very important to her.


Welcome back to the spin machine. Enjoy your stay.


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