Does the Hillary Campaign Condone This?

[Stephanie]

No flames, please. Simple question.



http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/05/cue-the-banjo.html#more


link

[Kittycat]

They had control over the signs during their event

If it was a problem, they would have asked the people not to put them up, or taken them away.

[PoliticalAmazon]

20. Good point. You can bet if someone had a GOBAMA! sign it would have been taken away. n/t

[flpoljunkie]

54. Heres another sad home made sign from one of her WV supporters in Logan yesterday

Peggy Mosley of Bruno, W.Va., holds up a sign commenting on endorsements of Presidential hopeful Barack Obama by Sen. John Rockefeller, D-W.Va., and Rep. Nick Rahall, D-W.Va., at a campaign rally for Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., in Logan, W.Va., Monday, May 12, 2008.
(AP Photo/Michael Browning)

[Kittycat]

58. So sad, and...

Who is Gov Manison?

[JBoy]

84. And who's that "Rock feller"?

[PoliticalAmazon]

103. I don't get why they are "traitors." Because they didn't endorse Hillary? ....

Because they endorsed Obama? Because they endorsed Obama, an African-American?

Just trying to understand the WVa culture and thought processes...

[wvbygod]

151. Because the voters of WV decide not the Senators

The elected officials of WV are expected to endorse the will of the voters.
It is the democratic way. Just like we expect the final result to be decided
by the voters.

Why is this so hard to understand on a democratic message board?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

122. Rockefeller is a traitor for completly different reasons. nt

[grantcart]

93. at an Obama rally no individual signs they give out their own

[Starbucks Anarchist]

1. Hardworking racists right there.

[Emit]

62. no kidding

[NightWatcher]

2. I think some "righties" are using Clinton rallies to get their anti-Obama message out

they know he's going to be the candidate so they are just pissing in the pool

[rucky]

7. Of course they are.

It's the perfect cover!

[Shae]

17. I think so too nt

[JuniperLea]

32. Can you find in the article where it says these were

Clinton rallies? I can't. This could easily be a staged event.

[PoliticalAmazon]

ANOTHER good point! That thought didn't even cross my mind. n/t

[Stephanie]

127. you can't be serious

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5947781&mesg_id=5949708

[Stephanie]

126. They are Clinton rallies

See my post #110 below >

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5947781&mesg_id=5949708

[PoliticalAmazon]

104. Good point. n/t

[YOY]

3. Booknote for the future: So when we say She is "Republican Light"

We're really not talking out of our asses.

[Imagevision]

50. Obama nailed Hillary when he said she would be "Bushlite"...

[BklynChick]

4. I'm sure she would say she doesn't condone it, but her words sure inspired it. I would bet that you

would not have seen those signs had she not said what she said last week.

[subsuelo]

80. What words specifically?

I'm just curious (and an Obama supporter btw)

[BklynChick]

114. when she said "white hard working people" would vote for her, she has the larger coalition, implying

they wouldn't vote for obama because he's black. this gave credence to racism and permission for them to vote AGAINST him as opposed to FOR her.

[LaurenG]

5. Those are some "haters"! nt

[rug]

6. Very doubtful.

[SoxFan]

25. Wrong

Campaigns have control over the signs that are brought into events. If you look at the invitation to a Hillary or Obama event, it will state that signs are not to be brought to the event. When you arrive, there is a gauntlet of secret service, advance staff, and field organizers at the entrance. There is no way that the campaign didn't see this piece of crap.

[rug]

36. That never happened at any Clinton event I attended. Nor did I need an invitation.

You need better than that to lay this sign at her feet.

[SoxFan]

Look, I've been to more events than 99% of DUers

I live in Manchester, NH, so I have friends involved in every major campaign on both sides of the aisle. Obama, Clinton, Richardson, McCain, Giuliani, Gore, Bradley, Lieberman, Kerry, Edwards...been to events for all of them. Unless it is a small-scale house party, the campaigns ALWAYS check for signs as people enter, and usually they have people roaming the crowd swapping out "official" signs for the unofficial ones.

Face it, Hillary's staff is playing a sleazy game by allowing these kncklescuffers to show off these signs.

[rug]

82. And that hasn't been my experience.

Rather than swapping anecdotes, why don't you come up with something more factual about this event before you start calling her sleazy and accusing her of authorizing this sign?

[RaleighNCDUer]

85. He didn't call HER sleazy.

But the event manager? Definitely.

[rug]

87. That's a rare distinction in GDP.

[reflection]

109. Heh, "knucklescuffers".

I'm going to file that one away. Thanks. You can always get at least one daily gem out of DU.

[KSinTX]

64. Due to the size of Obama rallies

Invitations are required and available online, distributed by local outlets. And they use only sanctioned signage - some of which may be hand done. It is all passed out at the rally.

[rug]

81. The Clinton rallies I've gone to are far less controlled.

[bvar22]

91. Its easier to control the much smaller crowds at Hillary events.

:evilgrin:

[KSinTX]

95. Much of the infighting, IMHO, is based on two very different sets of facts

With each group of supporters using their own experiences to evaluate those of the other. Truth is, from what I understand, the Clinton campaign has a flawless media control operation while the Obama camp has focused more on the attendees. I've read articles from reporters who said they felt warm and welcomed at the Clinton events, while the Obama team (at least in the beginning) had to focus more on crowd control. Neither was better, just different due to differing need.

[Stephanie]

38. That's what I thought.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

34. Hillary's campaign coordinators control the signage in an indoor event.

Don't kid yourself, rug.

[rug]

46. I've been to both indoor and outdoor events. No one was checking signs,

let alone taking them out of people's hands. We got close enough to have her autograph our sign, and her husband autographed the same sign about a week later. The Secret Service was concerned about safety, not moranic signs. And I think you're attributing more power to her campaign coordinators than they have. I'm sure they wish they could control these events the way you say they can. All you have to do is look at her campaign, with the heckling and the Obama signs, to see they don't have that control.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

49. Amazing that the events I have attended differ so greatly from your experiences.

ALL candidate rallies I have attended in ANY confined space have ALWAYS shunned signage that did not meet their criteria/standards.

[rug]

52. Were they Obama events?

[HCE SuiGeneris]

63. Clinton, Gore, Kerry and Obama events.

[Egnever]

94. so i guess this is a fantasy?

http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/mar/20/clintons-kickoff-for-state/


Clinton's 'kickoff' for state

Doors are to open at 5 p.m. Everyone entering the gym will pass through a metal detector, and purses and bags will be searched. Umbrellas and signs will not be allowed.

[Moochy]

8. I like to imagine the trollish thing with the pink sign in its kitchen...

She took the time to make her sign in her little kitchen, and even double-stroked *AND* underlined the "HUSSIAN" bit.

She looks like she just swallowed the canary too, check out her facial expression.

[Shae]

21. The smirk makes me wonder . . .

could she be related to W?

[YOY]

26. She has that idiot's version of the "I've figured it out and them 'smart' folks haven't yet" looks.

N/t

[Lerkfish]

9. its a strategy that is sad

its bad for two reasons: one: it panders to racists, two: it assumes such pandering is acceptable to everyone else.

[RaleighNCDUer]

86. Why haven't I seen any Hillary supporters commenting that these

are probably republican interlopers who are trying to make Hillary look bad?

[Lerkfish]

89. how do you out them without implicating yourself by association?

[SoonerPride]

10. Simple answer: Yes

Yes, they do

[JimGinPA]

11. The Obama Campaign Does Control The Signs At His Events...

But then, there are many things to admire about his campaign.

[CatsDogsBabies]

12. Doesn't Obama's campaign

say that people cannot bring banners, etc. to his events? Now I know why. Nobody should allow their campaign events to be mouthpieces for something they don't believe in.

[SoxFan]

30. Every major campaign event has the no-sign rule

While I don't care for the rule, it has been a fact of political life since the 2004 cycle.

[Stephanie]

83. That's what I thought. So these signs have the tacit approval of the Clinton campaign.

Shame on her.

[K Gardner]

13. Its THE BASE !!

[yourguide]

14. I love how the zebra print freeper with the pink sign

actually misspelled 'hussein'

[Laughing Mirror]

51. Grab yer shotgun grandaddy, the HUSSIANS are coming!

Brilliant mispelling, don't you think? A candidate for the "moran" crowd.

[Tom Rinaldo]

15. There are racists of every political stripe in America

Racism cuts across political lines. And misguided fears know no political boundaries either. It only stands to reason that white Democrats with racist sentiments would gravitate to a candidate running against Obama. Most likely they would have supported John Edwards over Obama also if he were the only other candidate left in the race now .

[gateley]

19. It's my hope that, if Obama becomes our next President,

people like these will get to 'know' him and see how he's working for the people -- including them.

Much of their racism is fear based, I believe. There's what, like only 5% African Americans in the entire state of Kentucky?

I recall seeing a show years ago on skinheads. One kid (and he was just a kid) said he didn't WANT to hate anybody, but he was shown how blacks were taking all the jobs that should go to white folks, and he was afraid he wouldn't be able to make a good living. Fear.

So hopefully with a President Obama in the WH, these people will learn there's nothing to fear from other races.

And that is my American Dream. :7 :patriot: :hi:

[thewiseguy]

28. Those are just sorry excuses

[gateley]

35. You don't know, unless you're in that person's situation. I feel they

truly believe the fear-inspiring lies.

[thewiseguy]

43. Why do they easily believe these lies?

[gateley]

48. Because that's what they've been taught and told --

Because they don't know any better. Especially in a state with so few blacks, they don't have much of a chance to interact first-hand with them.

When I was growing up, we were taught that unless you were Catholic, you couldn't go to heaven. Period. (I think they've changed that "rule" now, though.) I only began to question and then discount that as I grew older and was EXPOSED to people of other -- or no -- faith. If I'd lived in a State with 95% Catholics and didn't have the opportunity to broaden my horizons, I'd probably go my grave believing it.

Why are you so intolerant?

[thewiseguy]

74. Why am I so intolerant? Sorry if I cant tolerate bigotry and racism.

Didnt know I had to cut excuses for such behavior.

[gateley]

79. I can't tolerate bigotry and racism either --

but I'd rather see hope that some people could be enlightened by becoming informed, rather than just writing them off.

[Tom Rinaldo]

42. That is the great bonus upside to an Obama presidency if we reach it

Some people will go to their grave remaining hard core racists, but many others change over time as they get exposed more to people of other races and cultures.

[Shae]

16. Of course they do . . .

What better way to perpetuate the myth that Obama is a Muslim for the benefit of people who fear that sort of thing?

[slinkerwink]

18. If Obama can control signs at his own rallies, why can't Clinton?

[TBF]

45. Obviously because she doesn't want to - this is what's left of her supporters. Pathetic.

[judasdisney]

134. "He SAYS he's not a Muslim. I take him at his word" .... bleccch.

[democrattotheend]

22. I'm sure they don't

I have a friend who works on the Clinton campaign, and she said when they encountered people in North Carolina who said that Obama was a Muslim they would correct them. Clinton may have used racially divisive language last week and at a couple other points this season, but I don't think she or her staff condones this.

[KSinTX]

70. I'm with you on that

It's not a winning strategy and if nothing else, Sen. Clinton does wish to win. If nothing else, she's smarter than that. There may be some chuckleheads locally that think that's fun but they're not looking at the big picture ON HER BEHALF.

[mmonk]

23. I wouldn't know.

I'm sure though that there are people showing up to present discord who might not really support her.

[NatBurner]

24. i'm about as Black as it gets

(figuratively, that is; i'm really a pleasant, snicker-bar brown)

but i feel sorry for these people.

seeing this kind of shit doesn't even make me angry anymore-

no hate, just pity

they really need some black friends

[redqueen]

39. What a lovely way to look at this.

I need to (re-)adopt your attitude.

[SwampG8r]

53. mmmmmmm snickers yummy

[NatBurner]

55. lol do u know me or something?

that looks JUST LIKE ME

[Erin Elizabeth]

147. Man, you're making me hungry!

[Erin Elizabeth]

148. Man, you're making me hungry!

[TahitiNut]

78. Like Stephen Colbert, huh?

:rofl:

[NatBurner]

112. colbert's Black?

I KNEW IT!

with that louisiana geechee name, he could be a very pale mulatto :)

[TahitiNut]

116. Not as far as I know ... but he parodies the "black friend" schtick.

:shrug:

[NatBurner]

141. u just HAD to add that "as far as i know", didn't u?

now everybody's gonna think colbert's a muslim :/

i need to watch his show more tho, cuz i missed the Black Friend bit

thx for explaining it

[Egnever]

90. yes they do

ignorance is bliss?

[helderheid]

27. brings back memories

[JuniperLea]

29. I can't find where these were taken... not in either article

What am I missing? Are these from a Hillary rally? If so, the articles aren't saying so.

[Stephanie]

69. The second is from a Hillary campaign rally yesterday in Logan, WV >

Supporters of Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., hold a sign during a campaign rally in Logan, W.Va., Monday, May 12, 2008.
(AP Photo/Elise Amendola)
LINK


The first is from a Bill Clinton rally in Pennsylvania >

Bill Clinton Campaigns For Hillary In Pennsylvania
KITTANNING, PA - APRIL 16: A supporter listens as former President Bill Clinton speaks to a crowd gathered at Kittanning Senior High School April 16, 2008 in Kittanning, Pennsylvania. Clinton is campaigning in an effort to bolster rural support for Hillary Clinton's primary race in Pennsylvania. (Photo by Jeff Swensen/Getty Images)
link

[BlooInBloo]

31. Uh yah? That's their base.

[RiverStone]

33. I find is strange that there are such things a Democratic racists

How can a party that represents the values of compassion and inclusiveness also have folks that wave racist bullshit like that?

Makes me wonder what their true motives are. :shrug:

[loyalsister]

125. Democratic values

What the Democratic party represents to you may be different from what it means to others.
I have parted ways with Democrats on many iddues. If I were to may the point of disagreement a qualifying point, then I would exclude many people.

I have decided that, I should go ahead and take for granted that a person can believe that it is okay to force a woman to carry a child to birth and still legitimately identify him\herself as a Democrat.
Or, that a person can believe that this war is a good idea and still legitimately identify him\herself as Democrat.

There are often wide gulfs of disagreement for me. However, I think that I should find agreement and try to see if there is a way to find more common ground if necessary. It may be that it is not.

What is needed is the vote for the Democrat on the basis of agreed upon Democratic ideals.

[MonkeyFunk]

37. No, but it won't matter

you guys already believe that she printed the signs herself.

You're going to judge Clinton by something a supporter did. No amount of logic will change that. You guys are convinced she's evil, and determined to destroy her, and drive off half the party in the attempt.

If I judged Obama by his supporters here, I'd think he was a major-league asshole.

[redqueen]

40. Hyperbole much?

Does it help in some way?

[pdx_prog]

47. No.....

Her base in WV is non-educated, racist paranoids that she lovingly refers to as "blue collar working class Americans." She knows good and damn well who these people are and why they are rallying around her. She is capitalizing on them...:) She might as well be holding one of the damn signs herself.

Edited to single out WV..

[bvar22]

102. Corrrection:

...she lovingly refers to as "blue collar working class white Americans."

[Goblinmonger]

65. But judging Obama by Wright isn't a problem? n/t

[Kittycat]

88. I don't believe she printed them, but how about stating the obvious

that these people are wrong.

I do believe that they have control over what comes in. Her events aren't that big, since she does TH formats - and stuff like this can and should be controlled. It only reflects poorly on the candidate. Of course taking in to consideration what Bill has been out there saying, and coupled with her 'mis-speak' on hard working whites - I can see why these people felt it would be acceptable to bring them in.

[Stephanie]

115. I'm just rather surprised that nobody told them it was *not* acceptable.

I think if someone came in with an Obama sign they would be politely asked to leave it at the door.

[cascadiance]

41. I think its' the mercury getting into their brains from that "Clean Coal"...

... in their water supply that's having them cop this attitude.

Another reason to stop strip mining of coal whether it's used as "liquified coal" or otherwise.

[AllentownJake]

44. I think this is due to dwindling staff

She doesn't have the people anymore that she had before to stop this crap from happening. When she had money she could pay people to make sure they didn't bring in signs.

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[Usrename]

118. Ok then genius, what's the answer?

Tell all us DUmmies what you think.

[Stephanie]

121. Don't waste your time.

You're talking to the Only Member of my Ignore List.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

124. Still So Proud Of That. Course, You Still Pay As Much Attention To Me As Ever.

Still think you're secretly in love with me.

:loveya:

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[Usrename]

131. You think I'm an ignoramus, heh?

Maybe you should read the question again in the OP, or, why do you refer to her campaign by using a feminine pronoun?

FAIL!

:rofl:

[Name removed]

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[Danger Mouse]

136. personal attacks are against du rules.

but you knew that, of course.

[Stephanie]

140. He is exempt from DU rules

If you haven't noticed...

[Danger Mouse]

149. I think the 'deleted messages' say otherwise.

:hi:

[KingFlorez]

57. No

I doubt some of these people are even really Democrats, because most Democrats don't act like this.

[KSinTX]

76. Most don't and what better way to score a twofer

Smear Obama while tarring Clinton. This doesn't even make sense for a party that's trying to take back a White House and restore laws erased by this administration. You hit that nail on the head.

[AtomicKitten]

59. Condone it? She cultivated it.

[K Gardner]

68. Exactly.. bingo.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

60. That's her base.

Just look at the pro-Clinton sites like Hillaryis44.

[LizW]

61. No. n/t

[onenote]

66. Link to article indicating that signs not allowed at HRC rally in IN

http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/mar/20/clintons-kickoff-for-state/

[Stephanie]

73. Thank you. So they did not allow people to bring their own signs to that event.

And now they do?

http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/mar/20/clintons-kickoff-for-state/

Those wanting to see Clinton at tonight's event must park in the school's south lot or on a street in the surrounding neighborhood, said Marsha Jackson, Evansville-Vanderburgh School Corp. director of communications.

Cullen Avenue east of the school will be closed to vehicle traffic. The entrance to Harrison's gym is off Cullen.

People will not be allowed to stand in line at the door until 4 p.m. Those who attempt to do so before will be asked to leave the premises because security personnel will be doing their last checks of the building, Jackson said.

Harrison students wanting to attend the rally will be kept in the school cafeteria from 2:40 p.m., when school dismisses, until 4 p.m., Jackson said.

Doors are to open at 5 p.m. Everyone entering the gym will pass through a metal detector, and purses and bags will be searched. Umbrellas and signs will not be allowed.

[Texas Hill Country]

67. like there hasnt been ANY racism on the part of Obama's camp LOL

[merh]

98. LOL - you don't get it do you

You shouldn't be snarking, you should share in the outrage over these signs and hope that they are not condoned by HRC's camp - if they are, you should be outraged.

[Texas Hill Country]

128. of course I object to them... it's is just being pushed that the only racism that exists is on

Clinton's side

[indimuse]

71. Does Obama condone THIS??

STFU!! Where is, 20 years in the "HatePew Obama" stand when The MSM and HIS supporters Slime, Twist,and LIE all over HIllary! I'll tell you where he was...Laughing..enjoying every divisive minute of it!

[Stephanie]

75. This is a flame-free thread. Just the facts please.

thank you.

[JVS]

72. Yes.

[tblue37]

77. Hussian? Hussian? That's actually funny. n/t

[zulchzulu]

92. Of course they do...remember Hillbot officials fired for distributing emails?

Scumsucking slime....

[Tom Rinaldo]

96. Fired, not promoted. n/t

[crimsonblue]

97. Why are old people so senile?

Every last one of them is, I'm convinced. (Not really, but it has struck me how the older the generation, the less likely to be non judgemental and rational). I dunno, maybe I just ain't lost my youthful naiveté. (don't flame me, seniors! You might throw out a hip or something. :P I only jest)

[Tom Rinaldo]

99. Yeah, Pete Seeger really lost it when he turned 60. Not. n/t

[Stephanie]

100. this is a flame-free thread

please stick to the facts

[crimsonblue]

106. I'm so sorry..

Mr flame police. It was sarcasm. I gues you need eighty of these to get the point. :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[Stephanie]

107. I don't want the thread to get locked

Some HRC supporters would like to censor a thread like this so these signs are hidden from view. So I am asking for a flame free thread so it can stay up.

[crimsonblue]

111. I'd like to clarify that I am not flaming old people.

I was being sarcastic. that is all.

[Faygo Kid]

101. I personally can't condone that zebra dress fashion faux pas. "Hussian?"

Not only did she misspell his middle name "Hussian" (maybe she meant "Hessian," thinking he's actually a German mercenary), but that dress - my eyes!!

[Stephanie]

105. A few more recs, please.

Everyone needs to see these photos, and HRC needs to explain how they got inside her rally.

[DemBones DemBones]

108. Ever heard of photobombing? My guess is that some people who

dislike Hillary Clinton went to a Clinton rally to get themselves photographed holding those signs in the midst of actual Clinton supporters, trying to make Hillary Clinton look bad.

I can't believe you'd trust anything from Andrew Sullivan.

[Stephanie]

110. Facts are facts. It doesn't really matter who's reporting them. Links to the source of the photos >

The first is from a Bill Clinton rally in Pennsylvania >

Bill Clinton Campaigns For Hillary In Pennsylvania
KITTANNING, PA - APRIL 16: A supporter listens as former President Bill Clinton speaks to a crowd gathered at Kittanning Senior High School April 16, 2008 in Kittanning, Pennsylvania. Clinton is campaigning in an effort to bolster rural support for Hillary Clinton's primary race in Pennsylvania. (Photo by Jeff Swensen/Getty Images)
link

The second is from a Hillary campaign rally yesterday in Logan, WV >

Supporters of Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., hold a sign during a campaign rally in Logan, W.Va., Monday, May 12, 2008.
(AP Photo/Elise Amendola)
LINK

[Catherine Vincent]

113. My guess is she and her campaign does not condone this.

And my guess is that you think her campaign does since this is your second post with this pic.

[NashVegas]

117. I Don't Know

I hope not.

[jgraz]

119. Will it help her pay off her campaign debts and/or help John McCain?

Then yes, she condones it.

[Stephanie]

120. I don't see how it helps her pay off her debts

It certainly won't help when she wants Obama's fundraisers to dig her out of the hole.

[Tribetime]

129. They don't like Ba-rock Huss_ian is cooking

[wrando]

130. tame stuff

compared to the vile crap BO's army spreads on forums like this

[SOS]

133. Barock Hussian Obama

She misspelled 2 out of 3.

Impressive.

[Jamastiene]

135. Those pictures might as well be in the same photo album with

this picture:

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blfloridagopmob.htm
...or this one:

[Stephanie]

138. that's right

[my3boyz]

137. YES...Terry McAwful,Carville,Lenny and friends made the signs for them! nt

[NJmaverick]

139. support? more like ENCOURAGE!

It's not like these signs are not screened by her campaign staff

[ShortnFiery]

142. The Clintons will NOT EVER reconcile with the larger AA community. Sure there will always be wealthy

AAs who place their love of power and wealth above their ethnicity.

But the Clintons have RUINED their good standing with the AA Community.

Unfortunately, the Clintons remain so damn egocentric, they don't even realize THE PERMANENT DAMAGE they've done to their legacy. :(


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oRwZQLdhEw

[Stephanie]

143. I demand that they denounce, renounce and reject these campaign signs from their own rallies.

And I demand that the media ask them why they allow this at their events.

[MilesColtrane]

144. Those diabolically clever Clintonites are trying...

...to subliminally plant the idea that Obama is a traitor, and that he fought against the Revolutionary Army.

[IndianaGreen]

145. After her racist comments to USA Today, I doubt she will renounce and denounce

Hillary has never apologized or admitted she made a mistake about anything.

[Stephanie]

154. Gee, who does that remind you of?

A: The entire Bush Adminstration.

[anonymous171]

146. Why is Hussein in quotes?

[Stephanie]

152. for "emphasis"

[wvbygod]

150. Like Obama condones degrading and bigoted remarks about WV voters

Likely similar and a whole lot less bandwidth.

[ecstatic]

153. I sure hope McCain helps them get out of poverty, should their

efforts at sabotage succeed...