Is Clinton staying in the race hurting Obama?

[RiverStone]

Some folks here continue to rage on Hillary, and I go back and forth regarding if it is warranted - others say (for good reason), the race is over - ignore her! Follow Obama's lead and shift your focus to kicking McCain's war mongering ass this fall.

And finally, final fucking finally, the corporate media is beginning to get it. From CNN this a.m.:

But even a landslide victory in West Virginia, which has 28 delegates, may be too little too late to keep Clinton realistically in the hunt for the Democratic presidential nomination. She trails Obama, from Illinois, in delegates won, states won and the popular vote so far this primary season. Clinton also now trails Obama when it comes to the support of superdelegates, and her campaign is $20 million in the red.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/12/wv.primary/index.html

As long as Hillary's primary focus is McSame, and the Dems opportunity in the fall to beat him, I don't really mind her lost campaign rolling down the hill on fumes; but the moment she starts pounding our nominee, I find myself needing some anger management.

How will she spin her win tonight? I just hope she does not diss Obama during her celebration of a won state, within a lost nomination.

QUESTION: Is Hillary Clinton hurting Obama by staying in the race?

[GarbagemanLB]

1. It depends entirely on how she campaigns in the remaining weeks. If she is positive, then it is good

. If she goes scorched-earth, then it is hurting our nominee, Obama.

[Andy823]

2. I agree.

We will see what happens after WV today.

[JeanGrey]

10. You guys are delusional. What is going to happen is she

is going to be all over the news talking about the "comeback kid" and figuring out how to sue or force delegates out of MI and FL, she WILL NEVER QUIT.................

[peace13]

3. I agree with you too! n/t

[havocmom]

7. And doing so in hopes of running again in 2012

Doing ANYTHING, including throwing Party and AMERICA under her bus to fulfill her lifelong ambition of hitting history as the first woman president of the United States of America.

Sadly, if she keeps this crap up and McCain wins by deherfault, there won't be much left to be president of in 2012.

She needs medication for her obsession. I am convinced of it.

[Lerkfish]

13. I think she's painted herself into a corner

since she's already gone scorched earth, its going to look as if her previous campaigning was a sham if she turn nice all of a sudden.
I think this is danger of going SOOOO negative in a campaign. At some point, the campaign is over, and you still have to work with these people.

[democrattotheend]

4. Not by staying in the race

But her comments about hardworking whites were not helpful. I feel strongly that she should not be pushed out of the race and I reject calls from other Obama supporters for her to drop out, but I think it's important for her to keep it positive at this point, which she has done for the most part.

[RiverStone]

12. She may be more positive, but Bill continues to hit hard

It's not only Hillary's legacy on the line, but Bill's.

After all the months of mudslinging, I really think most folks would let go of any Clinton anger and even encourage her to assume a leadership role in the Senate --- if, that's IF she remains positive.

If she goes negative or proclaims after tonight any more Barack is not as electable bullshit, I do believe she will be pushed out the door in short order.

[rucky]

5. The way I see it, they're just playing good-cop/bad-cop now.

Whether Hillary knows it or not. And taking away any potential smear the smear machine could possibly throw at him in the GE.

[FSogol]

6. The "die" has been cast. n/t

[Frustratedlady]

8. One positive point is that this "battle" of the Dems is dominating the media...

for better or worse. They have certainly dominated the news, this election season.

I just hope she performs with class...I'm sure Obama will.

[JeanGrey]

11. She's had none so far.

[cliffordu]

9. I thought Obama staying in the race was hurting Hillary....

But that's just me, I guess...

[grasswire]

14. that's a bit arrogant, isn't it?

"our nominee"?

When millions of Democrats haven't even voted yet, it takes a lot of nerve to use that term.

[RiverStone]

15. Our nominee has been chosen through the primary process...

...this way for many years. The system may be flawed, but it is our system. The latter states have been virtually ignored for many elections, but it is only this year that some folks say ALL people must vote before we declare a nominee. Historically, it has never been that way.

Technically, Obama has not been officially given his nomination on a roll call vote - but he is the "presumptive" nominee. This is particularly applicable now that he leads in pledged and super delegates.

I hope our country moves to a couple of national primary days to eliminate this ridiculously long process.

[grasswire]

17. so why do you call him the "nominee"...

...and not the "presumptive nominee"?

Hm?

[RiverStone]

18. OK, I'll give ya that...

"Presumptive" it is.

And Obama will make a damn good president!

Presumptively speaking of course...:hi:

[Lilith Velkor]

16. According to media clowns and their mindless bedwetting rubes, yes

[cliffordu]

19. I don't think she CAN hurt Obama, and that isn't from lack of trying...

I think her flailing from accent to accent is pretty funny - the Panderbear in a Pantsuit taking on regional dialects to "connect" with the little people.


Kind of like Brittney and her fake English accent...

Years from now I believe that history will not look kindly on Mrs. Clinton. I think women in particular will be very angry at what Hillary is doing to pollute the legacy of feminism in this country.

[ORDem]

21. She doesn't hurt Obama so much as she hurts the Dems in general. And just wait until

she starts her V.P. campaign soon after the 20th. :eyes:

[cliffordu]

22. Now I can't finish my oatmeal. I thought we'd be finished with her

pretty much after next week.....

BUUUUUT NOOOOOOOO!!!! YOU have to go and remind me that she's NEVER going away, just like Hepatitis or Republicans, she's ALWAYS going to be here......

Sniffle.

[Skip Intro]

20. Ahhh! She is DESTROYING the DEMOCRATIC PARTY with TOO MUCH DEMOCRACY!!!

evil, evil woman!

:eyes:

[saltpoint]

23. I think it is hurting her.

He has the numbers. He has the momentum. He has the flow of supes.

And he takes the stage in Denver as our nominee.

I believe he is also our next president.

I see no role for Senator Clinton in an Obama administration that many other Democrats could fill better.

[Condem]

24. Three more weeks. 21 days.

That's it.

[mmonk]

25. Her "endgame" would with no question.