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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:38 AM
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The GOP Has Never Had To Answer For Using The Southern Strategy For Decades.
Edited on Tue May-13-08 09:38 AM by cryingshame
They used the Southern Strategy, but only political geeks like us really know what it is and how they've used it.

It bothers me that Republicans have never had to answer for it. And all the damage it's done to the country.

Wouldn't it be fair to ask McCain about that during a debate? Or as fair as asking Obama about Farrakhan?

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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:44 AM
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1. Yeap, I think one of Obama's weakness's is he wont hit back AT ALL when it comes to this stuff and..
...feels he has to explain himself without pointing out the disparity in the media.

He can simply say I'll explain a when McSame and reThug explain b and just be quite.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:12 AM
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7. That is pretty much characteristic of Dem representiatves in general
they are a frustratingly spineless lot.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:37 PM
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11. Yet, Hillary has brought this out in the open and she faces the FACTS
about the American voting public. Facts that many here want to bury in the sand. Hillary is sending the message yet many here want to slay the messenger. Obama sends the message that blacks will vote for him in record numbers and that many would not vote for Hillary and everyone just passes this off as Obama "truth-telling." On the other hand, Hillary points out a truism and is slandered as being a racist.
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MediaBabe Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:48 AM
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2. Sorry, real issues are not to be discussed here at DU
J/K But truly, my opinion is that a large majority of the people here won't even know what the 'southern stragedy' is and they certainly won't bother looking into it. Yesterday someone posted an issue with a link and the first three people who weighed in with an opinion asked inane questions which were addressed in the first paragraph of the link. They didn't even bother to click.

Some days I feel like the rules state that if you can't say something bad about Hillary or her supporters don't post at all.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:00 AM
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5. other than that last paragraph, great post
I'm not picking on you - I like both of them - but I am sick of the little jabs and stabs toward supporters of either. It's not really called for, imo.

Anyway, yeah, it is sad, and worse, many don't get the implications of it, or the reason for the change in party alliance from Republican to Democrat.
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MediaBabe Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 04:27 PM
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12. You're right
I could have omitted the final comment. It wasn't necessary.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:19 PM
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13. it's all good.
no harm, no foul. I think this extended primary has gotten a lot of us in a fighting mood - hopefully we can carry it over into a win in November!

:)
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:54 AM
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3. Of course not. And they never will, if Clinton supporters have their way.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:58 AM
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4. Not only the GOP at all or even mainly until after '64.
How do you think all those southern Democrats stayed in office?

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:07 AM
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6. This is the history behind "the Southern Strategy", Wiki snip:
Disfranchisement and the Solid South

Main article: Solid South

After the American Civil War, Southern states gained additional seats in the House of Representatives and representation in the Electoral College because freedmen were granted full citizenship. They were also granted suffrage. Southern white resentment stemming from the Civil War and the Republican Party’s policy of Reconstruction kept most southern whites in the Democratic Party, but the Republicans could compete in the South with a coalition of freedmen, Unionists and highland whites.

Rising intimidation and violence by white paramilitary groups such as the White League and Red Shirts during the mid to late-1870s contributed to turning out Republican officeholders and suppressing the black vote. After the North agreed to withdraw federal troops under the Compromise of 1877, white Democrats used a variety of tactics to reduce voting by African Americans and poor whites. In the 1880s they began to pass legislation making election processes more complicated.

From 1890 to 1908, the white Democratic legislatures in every Southern state enacted new constitutions or amendments with provisions to disfranchise most blacks and many poor whites. Provisions required complicated processes for poll taxes, residency, literacy tests and other requirements which were subjectively applied against blacks and poor whites. As blacks lost their vote, the Republican Party lost its ability to effectively compete.<5> The feature "Turnout for Presidential and Midterm Elections" at the University of Texas Politics: Historical Barriers to Voting article shows the dramatic drop in voter turnout as these measures took effect, and also their longevity in Texas and across the South. It also shows the comparison of Texas and southern voting compared to the rest of the US.<2>

The South became solidly white Democratic until past the middle of the 20th century. Effectively, Southern white Democrats controlled all the votes of the expanded population by which Congressional apportionment was figured. Many of their representatives achieved powerful positions of seniority in Congress, giving them control of chairmanships of Congressional committees. African Americans could not elect one person to represent their interests and filled no local elected offices, where government was closest to the people. Because they could not be voters, they were also prevented from being jurors and serving in local offices. Services and institutions for them in the segregated South were chronically underfunded.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_South
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:33 AM
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8. Certainly, the Democratic party played into that whole thing in recent years for ceding
so many "red" states. Just writing them off.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:30 PM
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10. The Democrats set the pattern during Reconstruction.
I'm not trying to make anyone feel bad. We've come a long way since then and a little further since 1964. Democrats have only been getting the black vote since 1936 or so, iirc. There have been hundreds of years of vicious habit to counter.

This is going to be a great year for America and Americans and, for Democrats. :)
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:36 AM
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9. He would just remind people that HE is from the Southwest
adn does not even know what that is.. he would be lying, but enough people would believe him..

Dirty secrets remain secret for a reason.. NO republican will EVER admit to having used those tactics..they get others to do it for them...Hillary knows how it works..maybe SHE should be asked about it ..
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