Are there a lot of Atheists for Obama?? I am one of them.

[KansasVoter]

I know he is very religious but I still feel he is 100% with Non-Believers.

Any other Atehists here for Obama?

Has he ever commented about non-believers?

[Mooney]

1. I am an atheist for Obama.

I don't know what his feelings are about atheism, but I'm not interested in his religious beliefs anyway.

[JI7]

2. i am an atheist for Obama

he has commented many times about non believers.

[Labors of Hercules]

3. Complete "Origin of the species" thumping atheist right here.

:hi:

[BlooInBloo]

4. Damn if that wasn't a boring book, as necessary as all of that data collection was.

[Labors of Hercules]

16. Yeah, well, I didn't read the bible cover to cover either...

:evilgrin:

[Mooney]

28. You should get high and read the New Testament some time.

It's funny as fuck.

[Doityourself]

66. Atheist Universe: Why God Didn't Have A Thing To Do With It by David Mills..excellent read

I promise you..inciteful, clear and concise....

[scheming daemons]

5. Me too... raised Catholic, but then grew a brain.......

[comrade snarky]

47. Why that sounds

Really familiar!
Former alter boy here who had an awakening looking out at the big crowd who all wanted to be somewhere else on that fine Sunday morning.

I'm not sure how Obama feels about atheists but I doubt it's the open hostility of Bush I or II. Frankly with everything else happening right now it's no where near the top of my list.

[IDemo]

6. Here too. And yes, he has included atheists and agnostics in his writings

from the Audacity of Hope: “Whatever we once were, we are no longer just a Christian nation; we are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.” (p. 218)

[redsoxrudy]

7. Count me in.

Well if Obama said that he goes to church to worship jesus, not the pastor. Well I go to the ballot box to vote for a president not a spiritual leader. Also, I can't find any comments on atheism, but unfortunately that is to be expected in politics.

[nomorewhopper]

8. atheism is the third rail of modern american politics

atheists are trusted less than nearly any group in america. frankly, im uncomfortable saying that obama is "good for athiests" because a) im really not sure what that means and b) its certainly not helpful to him.

and yet i am proud to be a person of science, not a person of god. an atheist, until it is proven otherwise.

unlike obama, i walked from my church after some terrible things happened. i was never really a believer though.

[Goodnevil]

17. I can think of one group hated more

Pagans. You may know us as Wiccans, Satan worshipers (though we don't believe in this wacky Satan guy) or freaks.

Try explaining to your uber Christian boss in semi-rural Arkansas that you worship a 10,000 year old river goddess which is the deification of the earth and all creation.

It's difficult. I don't think that he's mentioned us, either. That doesn't mean that he's going to burn us at the stake. I'm pretty much with the rest of you guys: I'm not voting for a spiritual leader...I'm voting for a "fix this shit" guy. Just as long as no one convicts me of doing "Wizardry."

[nomorewhopper]

20. lol i had an evangelical boss and it didn't go well

:(

he was a huge, huge bush fan and spoke of christ at every meeting.

[DangerousRhythm]

32. Hm, I'm not really sure about that.

I went through a phase -- okay, nearly the whole of the 90s -- where I had moved on from Catholicism to Paganism in my teen years and early to mid 20s. My experience, and your mileage may vary, has been that religious people who knew I was a pagan seemed to feel they had a base to build on, in that I believed *something*. Some people seem to trust people less when they find out they don't believe in anything, questioning where their morals come from, what stops them from going on a murderous rampage and such. For the record, I never really truly believed, but I wanted to, liked the mythology enough and basically went through the motions until I decided that I didn't need any kind of personal crutch anymore. As an atheist, I've experienced actual shunning by people who formerly loved me like a family member when it was found out -- and not because I was vocal about it or anything like that. It's been a real wake-up call, more so than when I was a pagan... but again, your mileage may vary. It's not like it's a race to see who's been discriminated against more or anything, lol. I'm just relating my personal experience. :)

[Goodnevil]

87. True, HEHE

Sorry, I get competitive when it comes to comparing religious persecution. ROFL

[Mooney]

21. I was never really a believer either.

I can remember being at synagogue when I was very young, like six years old maybe, and I remember even then feeling like everyone around me was either engaged in a mass act of dadaism or was suffering from some kind of mass delusion. I thought everyone there had to be completely insane to believe the shit they were talking about. Faith has never seemed like a particularly admirable quality to me.

[fifthoffive]

80. That pretty much describes me.

Although at six I just thought everyone was playing make-believe ;). I didn't understand until much later that people really believed those stories.

I also don't understand why I should be reviled because I don't believe in a fairy tale. Lack of religion, or belief in a god does not equate to a lack of morals. Religion too often gives people an excuse for their bad behavior.

[crankychatter]

9. I'm an Agnostic Pentecostal

We speak in tongues, but it's probably brain damage

[RaleighNCDUer]

41. LOL

[MercutioATC]

88. You're just in it for the snakes?

[chknltl]

10. Spiritualist for Obama

Not quite an atheist but sorta kinda. Not into any organized or even unorganized religion because 'worship' is not a thing I am into. I feel most religions are a corrupted twist on reality. OTOH, I feel religion does serve an important purpose...just not the one the practitioners would agree with.

That said, I am very behind Obama. In my particular odd philosophy, the ultimate goal in the end is acceptance and pure love for all souls. bush and his ilk represent the antithesis of this serving up only selfish greed, hate, and fear. In Obama the pendulum swings back away from this.

[Tinksrival]

11. Hello, heathen here

His religious believes don't matter to me. Just his leadership skills and policies.

[MirrorAshes]

12. proud athiest here, and prouder that Obama has indeed recognized us. n/t

[algol]

13. Count me in.

Atheist, for Obama. Don't know his opinion on my lack of belief, but that's pretty low on my checklist.

[rebel with a cause]

94. He knows the constitution,

He taught the constitution, and believes in it. There is that little thing in there that says freedom of religion, and I think that includes the freedom to not believe in any religion. IMO, and that is the vibe I got from him also.

My father was considered an evangelist, not evangelical. A minister in the Free Will Baptist denomination, he would spend his summer vacation traveling to other towns & churches to hold revivals. I had a very strong belief when I was a child; thankfully it helped me survive my childhood. When I was eighteen I started to change. Then I read the Bible and really had a faith crisis. I was young at the time that "Jesus Christ, Superstar" was popular and I took it to heart. Some in my family became afraid of me because they labeled me a Jesus freak (hippy). Over the years I became more and more turned off to organized religion. Today, I believe in a higher power, but am uncertain of who or what it is. My death is eminent, so I am trying to come to terms with what is or isn't so I can better prepare for the event. :eyes:

The funny thing is that my father always said that people that studied the Bible thoroughly was prone to become atheist. After reading the Old Testament, I could see why.

[TexasObserver]

14. I believe in God, but not religion.

Obama's church is very much one of those that allows people to believe whatever they want to believe about God and religion. Because of the political marketing necessary, I'm sure there will be some adherence to religiosity by the campaign, but I would expect Obama to be like Jefferson and Franklin.

[ccharles000]

15. I am an agnostic for Hillary.

[platosrepublic]

37. Why use such an old pic of Hillary?

I never understood why Hillary supporters like to use younger pictures of her; that must be like 30 years ago (she looks pretty in this pic).

[Lady-Damai]

18. I was a Athehist. I grew out of it.

[Crunchy Frog]

19. A vaguely pantheistic person for Obama. n/t

[IDemo]

68. pantheism pictured here ->

[Labors of Hercules]

74. OMG I just realized how funny that is...

"Honey, let's go fry some stuff on the Jesus pan."

[frickaline]

78. if that can make good omelets, I just might have a new worship nt

[IDemo]

79. The grilled cheese sandwiches will draw adoring crowds to your front door n/t

[frickaline]

81. I bet I could sell the pancakes on Ebay nt

[grantcart]

22. go to the web page and look for a group I bet they have a big one

[lojasmo]

23. I am an atheist for Obama.

[stratomagi]

24. Right here!

[Vote2008]

25. God is an imaginary friend for grown ups!

[Fox Mulder]

26. I'm an agnostic for Obama.

They're usually lumped together with atheists...though I don't know why.

[comrade snarky]

50. Why that's because

It's too difficult a concept for people who really need to lump other people into identifiable groups. :evilgrin:

[DangerousRhythm]

27. I am one...

...and yes, he has been surprisingly inclusive, compared to some others anyway. I can't really remember the last time I heard atheists mentioned by a politician on TV in non-negative terms. :)

[JustinL]

29. I am one too

[Blondiegrrl]

30. My husband is an atheist. His first pick was Ron Paul, but Obama is his runner-up.

He plans to vote for Obama in the fall.

I'm an agnostic myself and I'm voting for Obama.

[Growler]

31. Another atheist for Obama!

nt

[BlooInBloo]

33. I'd be more interested to know if there are any atheists for Clinton.

[CalGator]

34. add another

Obama isn't exclusive. He understands and believes in the separation of church and state as much as any Dem should. He's talked about respecting all faiths, including the lack thereof.

[bhikkhu]

35. Agnostic, but it has little to do with politics

I don't care what a politician does or doesn't do with his or her faith, as long as they are sincere and well intentioned and effective in their role government.

And not whacked out nutjobs, of course.

[platosrepublic]

36. I am non religious and i support Obama.

I am an atheist / agnostic and i support Obama 100%, he gets it. However i do respect his views on religion and science and i think the two can co exist.

[goletian]

38. present

[pettypace]

39. Ron Reagan

He was on tonight on MSNBC clamoring for BO as he has in the past.

[RaleighNCDUer]

40. Yes. A regular part of his stump speech refers to "people of all faiths

and of no faith" - a wholly unnecessary reference which most politicians would never say. He doesn't address it in any depth, but he does acknowledge that we exist. Just the same as he acknowledges gays in his stump speech - whereas Hillary only talks about them when she's actually talking TO them.

He has staked out a claim on inclusiveness, and that's one of the many reasons I moved to him (after my three previous candidates dropped out).

[New Dawn]

42. Yes, I voted for him at our caucus.

[and-justice-for-all]

43. Atheist for Obama right here...

I do not think he is as religious as he is perceived to be. He might 'believe', but it is more down to earth and realistic, not on the brink of fundi nuttary or anything.

[PurityOfEssence]

44. Yes, he's 100% with everyone on everything, but note the low turnout...

His support here is at flood tide and rapturous love for him is to be had for virtually any type of identification appeal, yet this one garners a mighty low response.

Here's an agnostic who's got major problems with him. Sure, I'll vote for him if he's the nominee, but I have pretty serious policy and personality issues with him, and the brazen use of religion for personal gain is one of them. THAT'S a character issue of the first order.

The tightening chokehold of creeping theocracy is alarming, and this guy either doesn't know how dangerous his actions are, doesn't care, or actually wants to do away with secular government. That he repeatedly includes us in his all-encompassing togetherness means little in the face of this.

[FlaGranny]

70. I hope you realize that

his religion would have NOT been an issue if he had not been accused of being a Muslim and closet terrorist. What's he going to do? Let the lies stand? Some people still believe he's a Muslim and terrorist, even after all this preacher-gate stuff. No accounting for the stupidity of some, but he really didn't have a choice but to talk about his religion.

Anyway, I'm another atheist for Obama.

[PurityOfEssence]

85. Whether the rock hits the pitcher or the pitcher hits the rock, it's going to be very bad...

...for the pitcher...

Yes, your point is well made, but SO WHAT? He's a compensation candidate, just like Hillary Clinton is, and if one excuses the idiotic extremist stances she has to make to dispel the bigotry against women (more steadfast and warlike) then one has to excuse those he has to adopt (megachristianity and unqualified support for Israel).

If, to be charitable, he's only engaging in disturbing religious politicking to defuse accusations of being a closet muslim, does it really matter if the end result is a further acceptance of THE NECESSITY of religion in government? Why do we owe this guy ANYTHING? What the hell has he done? He's not some national hero. He hasn't been a leader against or for ANYTHING.

Now we face the almost inevitable inundation of our government and cultural landscape with the extremely bigoted and fatuous proclamation that religion MUST be more important and more instrumental. Thanks, acolytes, you're doing the work of the religious zealots in ways they never could.

Here's where your contention falls apart, where they usually do: the premise. The premise of your position is that he's such a great and legendary tower of historical significance that we should put up with a small side-effect. This, to me, is wrong on both counts: he's an appeaser, precisely like Hillary Clinton, and not to be counted on to do a damned thing about the power elite of this country, and the further encroachment of religion is NOT a minor thing. Religion does not play fair, that's the whole point of religion. They have the answer, and anyone else is not really a full member of the community. Their word means more than anyone else's because it's sanctioned by the backing of the irreproachable big whoseywhatzit. Religion is inherently anti-pluralist, and it knows how to solidify its gains and lengthen its reach.

This is dangerous, and it's too bad that he's played both sides of the street for so long in his life that he has to dance an ever more complicated minuet of compensation to not be pegged for past maneuverings, BUT IT'S NOT MY OR MY KIDS' FAULT.

Here's where the standard approach of the Obama supporters falls apart, and it's typified by your post: the assumption that it's obvious that he's extraordinary and worth some downside. It's like talking to the religious: they continually feel that you just don't "get it" yet. If you only just knew the true joy and truth, everything would change. How could you not see this? He's great and wonderful and a tireless crusader even though his entire history is one of cautious positioning and ducking the hard issues. The true believers count on the rest of us falling under the spell, and if we don't there's really no backup plan. If he's the nominee, an appeal to reason needs to be made, not an appeal to the cult of the individual.

Does that make sense? Who the fuck is this guy that we OWE HIM EVERYTHING, regardless of his baggage or poor prospects for stopping the corporate feudalism that he and his wife so warmly embrace? That's a bit out of line in my sacred book.

[FlaGranny]

86. We obviously don't "owe" him anything.

We owe it to ourselves to vote for the candidate we think will do the best job. I believe that no one would have even known Obama's religion if other people hadn't brought up the subject. I've certainly never heard him bring it up except in response to false accusations.

Edit: I'd really rather all this religion crap didn't go on, but it does, and I guess we've got to live with it until sanity hits the populations of the world.

[candice]

45. No, I joined the cult...it was so inspirational to chant "Yes we can"

...the Kool Aide was cold, but it was boring watching someone read a script from a tele-prompter who acted as if he were a rock star. He's over 30, too. Almost 50, but tries to act young.

[AtomicKitten]

46. I'm too lazy to be an atheist and thus consider myself an Agnostic for Obama.

[quantass]

48. I too am an ATHEIST.

[marlakay]

49. we don't go to church

my husband is atheist and I am not sure what i believe anymore, use to be religious but after life and alot of research don't believe most of it, maybe in god but thats about it.

I just respect Obama's right to believe. And I think he is respectful and wants church and state separate so i don't think he will do a bunch of god stuff.

let's just put it this way, he is a firm believer of the constitution.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

51. Atheist for Obama right here! He has mentioned atheists in speeches before.

The last time I heard a major politician mention atheists was when GHWB said we couldn't be patriots.

[Arrowhead2k1]

52. I consider myself Agnostic.

Don't know, don't care about the existence of god. I suppose that's close enough to Atheism, so if you wish to label me as such, I don't mind.

[swishyfeet]

53. Me too

So many politicians are just offensive with their pandering to the churchgoers. I don't get that vibe from him at all...

[JimGinPA]

54. He Mentioned Atheists & Agnostics During That "Compassion Forum"...

He talked about the need for a "universal language" which would include all religions as well as non-believers and also avoiding self righteousness in democracy.

[quantass]

55. SCIENCE is my Religion...FACTS are everything! GOBAMA!

[Ino]

56. Me (n/t)

[Hamlette]

57. his parents were atheists

I suspect his grandparents were too

I don't think he's a believer but you have to know I can't imagine anyone in the world believing in god and think they are all messing with our heads.

[Not_Giving_Up]

58. I am an atheist for Obama

(You know the wingers will use this thread to say that a certain percentage of Obama supporters are godless pagans, right?)

[Undercurrent]

59. Atheist for Obama

:hi:

[newmajority]

60. That's it, you're all kicked out of the Cult!!

Can't have a bunch of non-believers and semi-non=believers polluting the cult! You guys wouldn't follow through when it's time to cut our nuts off and hitch hike on a comet. Or have an armed standoff with the FBI. Or whatever it is they think we're gonna do. :crazy:

(For the record, I'm a recovering Baptist with no further use for "organized" religion)

[banjosareunderrated]

61. ABS here.

[arewenotdemo]

62. Atheist/pantheist for Obama.

The Conscious Universe is leaning Obama!

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

63. No, I don't have that much faith

Maybe more of an "Agnostic for Obama".

:hi:

[Orsino]

64. My faith strongly resembles atheism.

(No, I am not calling atheism a religion--not in any way.)

I even call myself a Christian, but I am no mystic and have little or no use for the supernatural elements of religion. I wish Obama, or any other prominent politican, had the courage to praise--or even acknowledge the existence of--atheism. I want leaders who will do the right thing without a paternalistic deity's threatening them with eternal torture. I don't want leaders who kill, maim and pauper us while pretending it's the will of their god.

I hate, hate, hate faith as a litmus test for candidates. I want realpolitik, not the oh-so-pious charade the MSM forces them to waste time on. God, whether or not you believe in Her, doesn't need fixin'. It's the real world that's broken, and we're the ones who have to repair it.

[Doityourself]

65. Agnostic for Obama. I don't do religion.

[abburdlen]

67. Proud atheist for Obama

"In fact, because I do not believe that religious people have a monopoly on morality, I would rather have someone who is grounded in morality and ethics, and who is also secular, affirm their morality and ethics and values without pretending that they're something they're not. They don't need to do that. None of us need to do that."
-Barack Obama

[Bensthename]

69. Aethiest here for Obama.

[SoonerPride]

71. Atheist for Obama here in the bible belt

[roseBudd]

72. me me

[hokies4ever]

73. I would describe myself as agnostic

though I guess many people think agnostic and atheist are the same thing. After all, how can you be SURE that God doesn't exist?

[Honu one]

75. I'm a descendant of Robert Ingersoll, the so called father of atheism

and I'm a proud atheist for Obama.

[invictus]

76. n/t

[mkultra]

77. i believe that all religions pray to the same god

That god tries to reach us through many paths and only man seperates the various interpretations.

This belief requires alot of acceptance of the views of others. This acceptance is something i can see in Obama. It is possible to have a strong spiritual belief and still respect and admire the beliefs of those who differ. This includes those who feel that there is not enough evidence to support the existence.

[Guava Jelly]

82. I am one

And damn proud of it.

[nomaco-10]

83. Barack Obama Would HATE This......

Why should we pigeon hole ourselves into categories? How helpful is this? Should we all get posters and yard signs that say "Atheists for Obama", "Middled Aged White Women for Obama", "Blue Collar White People for Obama", "Gun Owners for Obama".

This is not his message. His message has always been about being inclusive, and that means ALL of us, no matter what your belief system may be.

As an agnostic who leans toward atheism (because I can't prove or disprove the theory of god) I feel very strongly that religious issues should be left out of politics. And by the way so did the founding fathers.

[stratomagi]

95. See I'm the opposite

I'm 100% Atheist with the intellectual humility to say I can no more disprove God than I can unicorns, however so far as I have seen there isn't any necessity for either one.

The thing about lumping together into categories is is thats how people think. I think Obama's point is not that these categories shouldn't exist, but that they should not stop us from working in a common interest. The way I see it to change the rules of the political game, you gotta play to win and once you've accomplished that, change the rules. Right now I don't think the interests of atheists are addressed mainly because of how unorganized we are. Imagine if we had community centers like the Jewish community, someplace where likeminded people can socialize and advance ideas. Imagine if we addressed the common interests of most atheists and became a large voting block that needed to be addressed. Then we'd see politicians discussing the importance of our issues, such as separation of church and state, promotion of human rights, advancement of medicine, scientific research...etc.

[IndependentDem]

84. I'm an Atheist for Obama so was his dad--- here's a link where he talks about it.

http://obama.senate.gov/speech/060628-call_to_renewal/index.php

[jenmito]

89. I'm one, too! A Jewish atheist with agnostic tendencies.

:D

[jeffrey_X]

90. I'm a member of the club

eom

[Arugula Latte]

91. Latte sipping atheist mother of two here.

[MrSlayer]

92. Agnostic, non-theistic evolutionist for Obama.

Also, hard working, white, blue collar, non-college grad.

[LucyParsons]

93. Me, too

I am reluctantly for Obama. I'm willing to give him a chance. I am a Kucinich supporter.