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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:34 PM
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The worse run campaign in modern history until a month ago: J. Alter on MSNBC
Edited on Fri May-09-08 01:35 PM by Doityourself
The absolute worse. Yowzer. Thanks Mark Penn.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:37 PM
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1. I saw that
He can say it without a waste of words.

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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:39 PM
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3. Agreed. I saw yesterday where it was said she made the huge mistake of hiring based on loyalty with
out experience.

She actually deserved what she got for thinking she was inevitable and not planning and executing a smart campaign. Shows lack of executive and leadership skills to me.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:39 PM
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2. Good interview.
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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:41 PM
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4. Honestly, if Obama hadn't ran she might have gotten away with it
Edwards wasn't that strong a challenger (mostly because he was marginalised by corporate america)
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:43 PM
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5. We'll never know, but when she announced, nearly everyone I knew assumed she would
be it. I told them there is absolutely no way she would get the nom. She is simply an extremely disliked person, and her campaign solidified that sentiment.
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:46 PM
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7. Her campaign absolutely assumed she was liked more than she actually was...another bad move.
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:46 PM
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6. We dodged a bullet. n/t
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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:50 PM
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10. Someone on MSNBC said even the video were she announced she was running was a mistake
She was just in her living room, looking laid back. Compare it with when Obama anounced.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:55 PM
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13. Yep--like it was her nomination already, she could just sit at the castle
and "chat" with her subjects. Obama acted like he was running for President.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:49 PM
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8. That's just the scary thing.
Had Clinton pulled out Iowa, which even on the day of the caucus looked probable, Obama and Edwards would have been done. Oh sure, one of them would have been the de facto second candidate who stayed in the campaign a few more weeks, like Edwards did to Kerry in '04, but that's it. Clinton probably would have gone on to win New Hampshire by a far larger margin than she really did. She would've done the same in Nevada and then there probably wouldn't have been racial buzzwords that led to South Carolina and she would have cruised to the nomination. Good for her, bad for us. Bad because all the flaws that eventually came out would not have come out until the GE.

Money would have been an issue in the GE. Horrible campaign blunders would have been an issue in the GE. And eventually, it would have cost her the election. It would've been ugly.
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:50 PM
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9. It is a case study
that will be used in business and management programs for years to come.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:53 PM
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11. Hiring Penn who didn't know the Democratic calendar and rules
and paying him a gazillion dollars for his incompetence is reminiscent of Bush's incompetent corrupt cronyism.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:55 PM
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12. Jonathan Alter - what a joke...
he was calling for Hillary to drop out three months ago. He is disgusting. Who gives a damn about anything coming from that bold fat bastard's mouth.
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:01 PM
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15. lol.dear Cricket08 .he speaks the truth..about the campaign..the facts speak for themselves
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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:08 PM
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16. Not planning after Super Tuesday was the biggest mistake of her political career
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:17 PM
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18. blowing off the caucus states was also a massive mistake..pathetic campaign..
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:17 PM
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17. Bitter much? (NT)
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:59 PM
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14. The best campaign in the world can't sell vinegar as French perfume.
Hillary lacks leadership, integrity, ethics and is unfit to be a Senator, let alone a President.

The people can see what she's selling and they're not buying it.
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