Obama makes clearest hint that Clinton could be running mate

[Shoelace]

I was a Clinton supporter until yesterday. When I heard her bring up the "inexperience" thing again, not to mention the "white, blue collar workers", I jumped ship. My vote here in Oregon will go to Obama. However, I don't think we can win in November without her on the ticket as VP. Here's the article from the UK:

Suzanne Goldenberg and Ewen MacAskill in Washington The Guardian,
Friday, May 9, 2008 (excerpts)

Barack Obama yesterday gave the clearest hint yet that he may consider Hillary Clinton as his vice-presidential running mate in the November election for the White House. With the campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination close to finished as a contest, Obama began looking beyond his battles with Clinton to the one with the Republican John McCain.

There are six more primaries left on the Democratic calendar, but Obama has established such a formidable lead that Clinton is no longer realistically capable of overtaking him, and the US media were yesterday treating him as the presumptive Democratic nominee.

The possibility of her serving as vice-president seemed unlikely until yesterday, given the personal bitterness that has grown between the two camps in the course of the campaign. But Obama, in an interview with NBC News, refused to rule out the prospect. "There's no doubt that she's qualified to be vice-president; there's no doubt she's qualified to be president," he said.

In an interview with CNN , he said he had not yet wrapped up the Democratic nomination, but when he did he would start the process of selecting a running mate. "She is tireless, she is smart. She is capable. And so obviously she'd be on anybody's shortlist to be a potential vice-presidential candidate," he said.

The new dynamic was underlined in Obama's victory lap of Congress yesterday, in which the senator from Illinois spent 45 minutes in the House of Representatives trading handshakes and even hugs with members who were Clinton supporters. He also met with members of Congress who remain among the uncommitted Democratic superdelegates, hoping to win over enough to clinch the nomination.

Obama told reporters afterwards that he would contest the six remaining contests, and said he expected Clinton to win at least two. "Senator Clinton is a formidable candidate, she is very likely to win West Virginia and Kentucky. Those are two states where she's got insurmountable leads," he told reporters. "But my goal has been to spend time in all 50 states."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/may/09/barackobama.hillaryclinton?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront

[lumberjack_jeff]

1. We can't win without her supporters

Whether VP is the only way to keep those supporters is an open question.

I'm really beginning to like the idea of Senate majority leader Clinton, and Obama making that case forcefully and genuinely will go a long way towards party unity.

onedit

Reid for VP? I don't like him very much, but he does a lot to broaden Obama's appeal.

[Shoelace]

35. Popular vote so far: Obama; 14,926,550 Clinton; 15,216,764

one can't simply ignore over 15 million voters and he knows that.

See more facts, figures here:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

[Shoelace]

36. woops, that is Obama; 15,926,550

shees, I need another cup of coffee, sorry for the typo.

[Cant trust em]

39. Thanks for the clarification. I could almost feel my blood pressure rising when I saw that. NT

[Shoelace]

45. Lol, mine too!

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

79. Last thing a Pres needs is a VP he can't trust, or who is beholden to lobbyist

there's plenty of possible VPS that are appealing to a broad class of people.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

88. I know of several Dems who will be more likely to vote for him if he has her on the ticket.

[Beacool]

105. Here's one.

Furthermore it would be the ONLY way that I would vote for him. Ditto for a few dozen people that I have campaigned with or simply know. No Hillary, no vote for Obama.

[proud2BlibKansan]

2. And I don't think we can win with her on the ticket

[mzmolly]

20. I think we'll start to see polls including VP candidates soon? But the turn out with the two of them

has been phenomenal.

Interesting times... :hi:

[enid602]

Obama

Wake up; you can't lose with her on the ticket. Sure, he'll have to swallow his pride a bit, but that might give us an early preview as to what sort of president he'll be. I'll vote for Obama, but statistically, many hardcore Hill supporters won't. MANY. It's just statistics. Does he want a coalition, or does he want to go it alone, a la McGovern in '72? The choice is his.

[WA98296]

78. She is the ICON of OLD politics. So were his words about change just a Slogan?

[Imperialism Inc.]

3. Putting her on the ticket seems like an incredibly bad idea.

The only thing she will do for the ticket is draw many republicans to the polls. If there really are that many Dems who are such big babies that they won't vote for Obama then we'll just have to take our loss. Adding Clinton to the ticket and keeping them will not outweigh the energy she will give the GOP GOTV efforts.

[Shine]

4. He's made that "she's on anybody's shortlist comment" before

this is not exactly news, sorry.

[Aloha Spirit]

14. At least a month.

[Aloha Spirit]

19. January 31st

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5j8MefFFgk7o4dTGykhOdyybgM5fQ

[Shoelace]

21. it's news to moi

but I thought it interesting that the article came from the UK. I've been wondering how much interest there is in other countries, for this race.
Geez, I thought somebody would maybe, possibly, congratulate me for switching my vote to Obama! :shrug:

[mopinko]

30. sort of a back handed compliment you have given him.

people are reacting to this incredibly tired notion that makes most of us obamanoughts hurl. it is not gonna happen. i do, however, think he will pick a woman. that will pick up the vast majority of the hillary supporters. i have had my money on kathleen sebelius for a long time.

[Cha]

55. Thanks for that, mopinko..

Obama isn't going to mess up his ticket with hilary.

There's always Claire McCaskill:)

[Aloha Spirit]

32. Awwww have a beer on me!

:toast:

[Shoelace]

52. heh, going to stick to coffee for now

had to give up the suds a month ago because I'd turn into a drunk what with all the goings on with the elections. Come November, I'll be healthier for it and President elect Obama will be a good cause to celebrate. I'll do champagne then!

[KSinTX]

41. Sorry, got distracted by the Clinton VP thing

Good switch! Welcome aboard! :toast:

Now, how bout that environment? ;)

[Shoelace]

54. thanks, nice to be out of the Clinton camp

just couldn't do Clinton anymore. However, I do want us to win in November and don't think we can do this without her as VP. :hi:

[AZ Criminal JD]

51. You made a bad choice. Why would anyone congratulate you on that?

[Shoelace]

56. pfft, so much for "unity" huh?

a little stubborn are ye?

[AZ Criminal JD]

80. We have no nominee.

Obama can pretend he is it but until the ballot is taken at the Convention he does not have it.

[TexasObserver]

28. Translation: She's on the list of short people who might be considered.

Among Lilliputians, she's on everyone's list of potential Veeps.

[marions ghost]

107. right

that's all I get out of this article--she made the "shortlist"....:eyes: hardly definitive...

We'd all love to know who's at the TOP of the shortlist right now tho.

[FredScuttle]

5. Please Barack, for the love of all that is holy and pure

do not put this madwoman on the ticket. The Republicans are drooling to face a Clinton and you will turn off millions of Democrats who've been disgusted by the Clinton circus in this primary season.

[Egnever]

22. He wont

It would be a dumb move to say anything else till she is out of the race completely.

[Norwood]

26. Ditto, I don't want her anywhere near the white house.

[goclark]

44. I would fear for our safety and for his

[Shoelace]

66. as long as you don't say you won't vote if she's on the ticket

because I think she will be his VP choice so y'all are going to have to suck it up and realize that the blending of the old and new is politically speaking, a good choice.

There is not now nor has there ever been a "pure and holy" politician, not one!

[FredScuttle]

71. Who's holding whom hostage?

The guy with all the delegates or the crazy lady who's running her campaign after the David Duke model now?

[TahitiNut]

74. I'd say it's "GOP Viagra" ... even McCain gets erect thinking about it.

If someone were to TRY to nvent a better GOP GOTV strategy, nothing would come close. Even worse, Obama would have to hire food-tasters.

Worst. Idea. Ever.

[Lucky 13]

6. Ugh. Everyday there is a post about Hillary as VP and everyday I say..

NO NO NO NO NO and HELL FUCKING NO.

She deserves nothing. Her behavior procludes her for being considered for the second highest office in the land.

She is precisely the OPPOSITE of what Barack is looking for. He wants something new, uncorrupted, different, and positive. All of which she is not.

Lastly, she would be lead shoes in his swim to the white house. She has more negatives than anyone I can think of. Adding her to the ticket would ONLY be to his detriment.

[K Gardner]

7. He is saying what he needs to say. He is smart and savvy, unlike the woman who will NEVER be on his

ticket.

[Beausoir]

46. In other words, he just another politician..."saying what he needs to say."

Can you say "PANDER"? Sure..I knew you could.

[ima_sinnic]

106. it's called diplomacy. but don't let the chance for an asinine accusation pass you by.

because most of her "supporters" appear to be gutter dwellers on the Karl Rove low road, they only understand mud-slinging and smears. he knows she's a horse's ass and low-class backstabber, but he's too diplomatic and kind to say so. would it make you feel better if he did? later, you'll be sarcastically mncking the "uniter" idea, but diplomacy is the way unity is accomplished.

[TheWraith]

8. I don't think we can win WITH her on the ticket.

She's an enormous vote-getter for the Republicans, not to mention turning off tons of independents, and bringing no real foreign policy experience to the table. Her voters will either come back home once their fit of pique over, or they'll be made irrelevant by the new votes flooding in.

[BlooInBloo]

9. That's not a hint. Anyone qualified to be President is ipso facto qualified...

... to be VP. And he said a loooong time ago that she's qualified to be President.

[4themind]

17. exactly

[Bullet1987]

10. Of course she'll be considered...he can't NOT consider her

Doesn't mean he'll chose her though.

[AtomicKitten]

11. Taking her on the ticket would be an EPIC mistake.

[Shoelace]

27. how so? She's got all those blue collar workers, etc., etc.,

good way to get all of her supporters. In popular votes so far, he's not that far ahead. Both of them have over 15 million votes.
One should consider ALL the factors before jumping to conclusions. We need more moxie than the Repukes!

[AtomicKitten]

29. she is divisive in a radioactive kind of way - the antithesis of Obama's message

[Shoelace]

42. yet she's got alot of votes

that we can't ignore. Republicans see this too. Too bad DUers don't see it.

[AtomicKitten]

64. much of "her base" actually belongs to the GOP and we definitely want to ignore that

Her only relevance in this race now is her stubborn continued presence in the race. She has nothing to offer Obama. Obama is garnering approximately the same amount of the white vote that Bill Clinton did in his presidential bids, so that argument is false. There are a number of fine Democrats he has to choose from for VP, many of which will shore up any perceived weakness in his own already broad diverse base.

[Shoelace]

84. no, that's not true inspite of what Limpballs says

"Operation Chaos" was a ruse. Her strongest support comes from senior Democrats, working class Democrats, most of whom have been Democrats for years.
What few Republicans she drew in probably wouldn't make a difference.

Both of their combined strengths would mean a win in November.

[AtomicKitten]

89. If you consider a documented 7% of her vote in Indiana a ruse, so be it.

Mark my word: Hillary will not be on the ticket. Obama is too smart to shoot himself in the foot. Like I said, he has plenty of talent to choose from, so you don't need to worry yourself about this although I do appreciate your concern. ;)

[Shoelace]

101. it's a huge concern too

also, I think the supers will probably be in the decision making process but who knows. I only hope she makes nice now because if not, then it's going to alienate folks like me who switched to Obama. God how I want the Repugs out!

[AtomicKitten]

103. we're almost there ;)

We've waited such a long-ass time since the judicial coup d'etat in 2000. I am so anxious to start making our case for taking our country back. Just this, um, little bump in the road and then on to the White House.

Cheers. :)

[Shoelace]

104. amen to that. 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, here we come!!

geez, I think that's the address, lol.

[msmcghee]

12. Actually, this probably means he has no intention of . .

. picking her. Later when he chooses someone else he can point back to this statement and say that even before his nomination was finalized, he was positively thinking that she would be a good candidate and considering her. To say otherwise right now would leave him open later to accusations that he was out for revenge against her even before his nomination process was complete.

Warning: I'm not good at political analysis so this could be a dumb take on it.

[4themind]

13. He can't say she's NOT qualified to be president (or by extension VP) because then

others could just accuse him of doing the same thing that she did, to a degree, when she said he hadn't met the 'Commander in Chief threshold' which she called a "critical criterion". He could just say "next question" but I think he wants to give people a chance to warm up to him before (or if) he decides not to pick her.

[newmajority]

It's not happening

Saying someone is "qualified" is hardly an endorsement.

Joe Lieberman is qualified to be VP. Hell, he was actually elected VP in 2000. But I certainly wouldn't call that an endorsement.

[leftofcool]

15. No thanks, Obama

[gateley]

16. I heard the interview I think these quotes came from,

and I got the feeling he wasn't counting her out, but seemed to make sure he wasn't counting her in, either.

At this point he HAS to SAY he'd consider her, whether he seriously does or not is another matter.

[Adelante]

37. I agree with your feeling

He wouldn't insult her by saying no, but he wasn't saying yes, either.

[Labors of Hercules]

18. With all due respect...

NOT. GONNA. HAPPEN.

PUNTO.

[Shoelace]

38. we can't ignore over 15 million voters!!

he knows that.

[Labors of Hercules]

67. The VP slot is not a consolation prize...

for a candidate who loses the PRESIDENTIAL nomination.

No matter how much support he/she may have had.

It cheapens our Constitutional Democracy to view the office of the Vice President in this way.

[Shoelace]

69. maybe not but it's politically a wise thing to do

inspite of your feelings. Wait and see who he picks. I'll vote for him no matter who it is because we can't have McInsane running our govt for 4 more years!

[anigbrowl]

102. No, it's unwise and here's why

The argument will be made by the GOP that Obama picked Clinton because:
- he was too weak to run without her
- he's 'not his own man'
- he didn't really get a mandate
- how will we know who's making the decisions
- every policy coming out of the WH will be fought over just like the primary, his leadership will always be distracted by Dem party political conflicts

Picking her as VP because a lot of people demand it (I don't mean you, but some of her supporters are practically advocating blackmail) will just make him look weak. Additionally, the GOP will get to use their full oppo campaign on Hillary and Barack, and use RW voters' dislike of her to drive them to the polls, with 'Clintons must never again be allowed in the WH' and suchlike.

She will bring some advantages (ie her own die hard supporters), but IMHO they'll be offset by the many negatives she brings.

[Beregond2]

23. He was being polite.

She has as much chance of being on the ticket as I do.

[TexasObserver]

24. Hmmmm. Should Jason Voorhis be on the ticket?

No, not gonna do it. Keep that back stabbing psycho (Hillary) away from our ticket!

[Triana]

25. I will seriously question Obama's good judgement if he chooses Hillary as his VP

Because for ONE reason, she epitomizes the old-style politics that Obama himself has spoken out against so often. Choosing HRC as a running-mate seems VERY "inconsistent", therefore, with the CHANGE mantra that he has thus far run on.

She's made a fool of herself in many ways and I question HER judgement already and have for some weeks now, which is why she lost my support.

HRC for VP = BAD IDEA.

[enid602]

31. VP choice

It's a tough call for Obama. Personal vanity and his constituents' demands make Hillary an unlikely choice, but it's his best chance for a victory. I will (begrudgingly) go out to vote for Obama, but chances are, most Hillary supporters won't. It's just statistics, and a reflection of how heated and tight this race has been. The choice is his. . .

[book_worm]

33. What do you think he was going to say? I think he's said this before.

[jaksavage]

34. Obama's got game !!

GObama!

[Terri S]

40. Hillary Clinton would not be the best running mate

The new voters, the independents, the Republicans who have been energized by Obama view Hillary very negatively. She would not add to the ticket..in fact, she would be a detriment.

The way that Hillary has run her campaign has only increased her negatives. This 'dream ticket' business would be a nightmare for the Democratic Party. If she had any integrity, she would have seen that by now.

[FlaGranny]

43. I hope he is not

"forced" to pick her. Just think about it. Would anyone want to be given the presidency and have Bill and Hillary to contend with? They would "know better" than him at every turn, pummel him with unwanted advice, and probably sabotage him at every turn - intentionally or not.

[futureliveshere]

47. He has said the same thing since the first time they asked him.

Sorry but this really means nothing new.

[Stop Cornyn]

48. I heard the interview. In context, it sounded like he was being gracious and not taking his win for

granted, and it did not sound like she was actively under consideration except in the most generic way that all the former candidates are generally "under consideration" for VP.

[burythehatchet]

49. That will be the one thing that will assure Bush will get away with his crimes

just like his daddy.

[Shoelace]

70. how so?

no love lost between Hillary and Bush. I don't get your post.

[burythehatchet]

72. the Clinton's and Bushes are quite tight. Bill never followed through on the Iran Contra

investigations, nor the BCCI investigation that Kerry did such a good job on. The Clinton's now consider themselves as part of that class of people. They do not let ham come to each other. They have the same financial backers.

It takes a clinton to exonerate a Bush. Look at blm's copious posts on the subject.

[Shoelace]

86. if Obama is president, he would decide such things

not the VP. You might want to look up HER voting record to see what and how she voted.

[burythehatchet]

94. I'm quite familiar with her voting record; I'm also quite familiar with her corporate interests

and corporate interests override all else. Wait and see (if clinton for VP comes to pass).

As regards her voting record, know that the Clinton's are corporatists, and Hillary has been running for president since she was a Goldwater girl. Every decision she made in her life has been for that end, including remaining married to a serial cheater.

[Shoelace]

97. don't kid yourself, Obama has corporate interests too

none of these candidates could get where they are today without corporate blessing, sad but true:


Corporate America Hearts Obama (excerpt)

The corporations have gotten the message. The same Beltway lobbyists, corporate donors and public relations firms, the same weapons manufacturers, defense contractors, nuclear power companies and Wall Street interests that give Clinton and John McCain money, give Obama money. They happen, in fact, to give Obama more. And the corporate state, which is carrying out a coup d'état in slow motion, believes it will prosper in Obama's hands. If not, he would not be a viable candidate. We have come full circle, back to the age of the robber barons and railroad magnates of the late 19th century who selected members of corrupt state assemblies to be their pliable senators and congressmen and sent them off to Washington to do their bidding.

Individual contributors to Obama come from major lobbyist groups such as those of Jeffrey Peck (whose clients include MasterCard, the Business Roundtable and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce) and Rich Tarplin (Chevron, the American Petroleum Institute and the National Association of Manufacturers). Exelon, a leading nuclear plant operator, based in Illinois, is a long-time donor to the Obama campaign. Exelon executives and employees have contributed at least $227,000 to Obama's campaigns for the United States Senate and for president. Two top Exelon officials, Frank M. Clark, executive vice president, and John W. Rogers Jr., a director, are among his largest fundraisers. Obama has also accepted more than $213,000 from individuals (and their spouses) who work for companies in the oil and gas industry, and two of Obama's bundlers are senior oil company executives who have raised between $50,000 and $100,000. I could go on, but you get the point.



http://www.alternet.org/election08/83890/

[styersc]

50. McCain can beat Obama or Hillary, but not both.

Kennedy was elected by putting LBJ on the ticket. Is Obama as bright and strong as JFK? We'll see.

[Shoelace]

60. exactly, and yes, I think Obama and Supers know she's got to be on the ticket

it's the only way we win the elections in November. Obama knows he can't ignore 15 million voters.

[northzax]

53. not going to happen

the Obama campaign has spent the last three months using surrogates to destroy her. oh, don't believe me? check out the language used on this thread from the mildest language campaign I have ever seen. they have turned the most popular female politician in US history into a evil, domineering, racist, powerhungry, lying, cheating (probably lesbian) uppity bitch. you know where Hillary's negatives are the highest? among the far left and the far right. in GDP and on Freerepublic. the language is the exact same. the hardcore bloggertype Obama supporters don't just dislike Hillary, or like Obama better, THEY HATE HER. more than they hate Bush, more than they hate McCain, more than anything. you cannot whip the mob into a frenzy of hatred and then calm them down.

[Onlooker]

57. A Clinton-Obama ticket would be terrific

What an incredible statement -- Clinton, who for many, is today's voice of feminism; Obama who has become a symbol of the progress we've made in civil rights. They both have broad appeal, are both very capable, and their supporters are passionate. Imagine the kind of campaign that could be waged if Clinton and Obama supporters got together. It would be awesome.

[Shoelace]

62. indeed, it would be an absolute win in November!!!

and I suspect all the delegates, Supers included know this already.

[DemsUnited]

58. Wrong. He says those exact same words every time he's asked the VP question.

No way are the Clintons going to be on the ticket. He's got enough problems to solve without having to constantly worry about back-stab politics in his own cabinet.

[jgraz]

59. Never. Gonna. Happen.

Never.

[TexanDem]

61. Hillary on the ticket very, very bad idea! ->

I think his gracious comment yesterday was just that, being gracious and a gentleman. From all the "insiders" who speak about it say there's no way it's gonna happen. Besides -- I'd be willing to bet Michelle would divorce him if he even thought about it! :)

[sfam]

63. Obama has said this about Clinton since the LA debate...

I saw that interview and didn't get that he was hinting Hillary would be on the ticket. Sounded to me like he just didn't want to piss her off.

I do agree that he probably should pick a woman who appeals to the working class folk. Hence my belief that Sebelius would be his best choice.

[Xenocrates]

Obama / Richardson (nt)

[ampad]

65. With all the qualified people out there

Why would Obama pick a person that claims he is not qualified for the job? Seriously (not you OP) but for those of you who say we cannot win without her supporters get over it already. Just because you think most of her supporters are going to walk away from her loss, bitter and pissed off doesn't make it true. As it has been pointed out before DU is not a fucking snap shot of the real world. I have confidence that most Dems will vote their best interest and they are not going to vote based on Hillary's loss or her hurt feelings. That may be what you feel and the world you are living in but most people have real problems other than Hillary and her feelings. I'm sure Obama can and will pick a running mate that will appeal to most dems and that person does not have to be Hillary Clinton, geesh.

[Shoelace]

68. once again I'll say it, you can't ignore over 15 million voters

who voted for Clinton. I don't care how you feel about her. It's not good politics to dis her since she has brought many new voters into the fold.
Sometimes we must compromise - that's what politics are all about.

[Crunchy Frog]

73. God no!

Please don't fall for it Barack.

[zulchzulu]

75. Thanks for checking out Obama

As for Hillary Clinton as VP, I would have to disagree that she would be good for the ticket.

We'll see what happens... I'm for either Richardson, Sibelius, Webb or Boxer... we need a fresh start.

[Shoelace]

81. I was originally going to vote for him, then switched, now switched again

having been a Democratic voter for over 40 years, I've seen some pretty wonderful Democrats fall because of Republican dirty tricks, etc.

We so desperately need to win this one. I may become a monk in one of those Greek hilltop monasteries just so I can pray over this election for the duration!

[GetTheRightVote]

76. We can and will win without her but it would heal the wounds she has

created in this campaign and also show Obama for what he is, a true Unifier even within his own party. This is one of the many reasons I have been on his side since the beginning. He is open to sharing this nation with all of its' members.

[gateley]

85. It might piss off a lot of HIS supporters.

I wouldn't like it at all. I wouldn't go the "I'll vote for McCain" route, but I'd be grumbling at the polls seeing her name on his ticket after all she's done.

[Shoelace]

90. well said!

your words to God's ears or however that goes. If he's the unifier, then that would be a good move. I hadn't thought of that angle before.

[nsd]

77. Not a chance. He's just being polite.

There are candidates who would be much better.

[Alhena]

82. Choose her supporter Ted Strickland, but not her

[Bensthename]

83. I am beginning to think she may be a good VP pick.

Old folks and ladies lover her. That is the majority of voters...
Obama is the master campaigner but she brings in the voters..

Could be.. Though I would like to see Clark, Biden, or Dodd.

[Shoelace]

87. I'd love to have seen Gore in there somewhere but

such is the game of politics. As it sits now, deals are probably being cut as we type. She'd make an excellent VP because of her experience. The Republicans are going to make short work of Obama's supposed lack therein.
She could fill that gap and answer back saying that it's a full ticket with experience, AND inspiration from Obama.

[sellitman]

91. She has a better chance to be on McCain's ticket.

Remember she thinks McCain has more experience to bring to the White House.

[chefgirl]

92. Um...I don't think so

He's too smart to fall for that bullshit. It's one of the reasons he got my vote.

-chef-

[Fox Mulder]

93. Oh I hope to god he doesn't pick her.

[Lilith Velkor]

95. Nah, we're better off telling all those Clinton supporters to fuck off and vote for McCain

That's the only way to beat McCain. :crazy:

[Shoelace]

98. nice way to "unite" our party

thanks!

[Lilith Velkor]

99. It seems to be the consensus of the Obama camp

I'm just mocking it because I think it's monumentally stupid to tell half the party to fuck off and vote Republican. Hence the smilie.

[Shoelace]

100. maybe it's because so many are young and not savvy enough to know

how to compromise to reach a consensus. I don't know - am just so sick and tired of all the bickering. All I want is for us to win in November and I see this as the only way to do that. 15 million voters probably agree with me too!

[stillcool]

108. I think that maybe...

"Fuck Off" is how one responds to threats.

[JimGinPA]

96. Fortunately, The "Short List" That Her Name Is On Was Written On Toilet Paper

:evilgrin: