So, it looks like the "gloating period" has started already

[FlyingSquirrel]

So how's about we deduct time off the "gloating week" that supposedly will be allowed when DU officially acknowledges a Presumptive Nominee?

I for one would rather have it be over with now, if it's absolutely necessary (I don't think it is) and move on to GE mode.

Call it a "Premature Celebration" penalty, like in football. Or maybe "Time Served" by Hillary supporters.

[chascarrillo]

1. Isn't gloating the fun part of the campaign?

[FlyingSquirrel]

2. No, that's the fun part when we beat McCain.

[chascarrillo]

9. Touche!!!

:)

[tavalon]

19. Exactly!

I'm itching to get to that! It's going to be sublime!!!

[cboy4]

24. It's not surprising honor is a foreign language to you

chascarrillo.

[bhikkhu]

3. Pre-gloating. Like gloating, but a bit less.

[here_is_to_hope]

4. I would rail

against you but I don't know who you support.
Well, your candidate sucks anyway.
And mine is going to win.
And it may well be all over.
And your post is flamebait.
And you are just stirring up the pot.
And many, many other things.
And against free speech.
But its to be expected.
You support one of the candidates.


:toast:





:sarcasm:

:hide:

[alcibiades_mystery]

5. I was promised one week of gloating, and dammit, I intend to take it!

This is all pre-gaming.

Of course, Candidate Clinton could kick in the one week limitation very easily at any point. :evilgrin:

[MercutioATC]

6. If she'd just lie down like any decent dead candidate, we would.

I don't have any need to gloat.

I do, however, feel the need to defend the candidate that I believe has the best chance to represent our goals.

If Clinton would start selling herself on her merits and stop trying to win by smearing Obama, I'd have no issue with her pursuing the nomination for as long as she likes.

Regardless, we do NOT have a nominee, and the rancor will continue.

[Dhalgren]

30. "Dead candidate"? Jesus...

:puke:

[Doityourself]

38. OMG..don't be so dramatic!

[Dhalgren]

44. I wasn't being "dramatic".

I was showing distaste for the poster's choice of words. There was no "drama" in my :puke:

Nor in this one :puke:

[OneSelf]

7. Gloating?

Some of us are just happy that we can end the in-fighting and get on to the business of saving our country!

[Colobo]

8. I'm personally not interested in gloating. I wanna win the support of pro-Clinton DUers.

[RaleighNCDUer]

12. I, too, want to win the support of pro-Clinton DUers.

But the anti-Obama DUers can go fuck themselves.

[cliffordu]

14. Yep, and there's a world of difference between the two.

I think the Anti-Obama obsessives are semi-pro "activists".....

Mark Penn has lots of time on his hands these days......

[FlyingSquirrel]

53. Well-put

[Tyler Durden]

52. With posters like the other two on this thread? Fat Chance.

We are sick and tired of being treated like some sort of criminals in need of rehabilitation.

There are apologies to be made, and we aren't the ones who should be making them. When that hits the Obama Campaign agenda, give me a jingle. Not before.

[Cha]

10. I don't "gloat"...we've fought a hard

campaign for a long time and we have reason to celebrate and we will.

[nadinbrzezinski]

Here is what's at stake

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5894592&mesg_id=5894592

No gloating, just a rant

[donheld]

11. I'll gloat depending on what happens come November

[ruby slippers]

13. the longer that Hillary stays in now that the media has declared her out will

only deeply hurt the party more. She really needs to get a grip and exit gracefully. She is making a mockery of herself now.....and I think the party leaders finally get it...

[rebel with a cause]

15. It seems she is out to do as much harm as possible.

I have been upset with the clintons ever since the covert racist remarks began, and today it seems to be getting worse. I am a white female and I highly resent this tactic, (I'm spitting bullets), so I can just imagine how anyone who is AA feels about this. I have never met the clintons but have met Barack several times when he was campaigning here in Illinois. He seems to be a very decent guy and it makes me mad when the smear campaigns are used against him. I don't think I could ever force myself to vote for Hillary now, and I don't know what I will do if Barack does get the nomination and then chooses her for VP. UGH!!

[ruby slippers]

17. unfortunately, I hear what you are saying....I don't want to vote for her, either, but

I will cover my ears and hold my nose if she is on the ticket and vote for Barack because the whiney baby will demand to be included. But, he should then get himself a taste tester....just in case....

[rebel with a cause]

18. Here in our house we do worry about

what would be done to get her in the WH if she were VP. After this campaign I do not trust either of the Clintons, and not to sure of Chelsea. To think I once defended them when republicans and others verbally attacked them during their time in the WH. Oh well, people have a tendency to show their true colors sooner or later. It's up to us to recognize it when they do. But with that said, I also would vote for Barack if she was chosen VP, but I would send him a message asking him "WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU THINKING?" I would prefer him pick someone from her camp, like Wesley Clark, for VP. Like that would satisfy her. :eyes:

[billyoc]

16. My Seven Day Hate will make this look like monks in a monastery under a vow of silence. nt

[Justitia]

26. ROFL!

[kevinmc]

20. Until we(The Democrats) win the Presidency I don't see any reason to gloat. n/t

[Lilith Velkor]

21. No, this is still the "freaking the fuck out" period

Hillary supporters need to be properly shamed for backing a candidate who suddenly became a racist about four months ago.

You'd think such horrible bigotry would have been detected sooner than that, what with sixteen years in the public eye.

[cboy4]

25. When I read bullshit like this .. it makes me less apt

to criticize Hillary supporters who write they will not vote for Obama in the GE -- even though he will need every single vote possible to have a chance of beating McCain.

But some of you would rather lash out than reach out....thus jeapordizing the election.

[DemVet]

41. Well said.

While I am a Hillary supporter that WILL support Obama if he is our Nominee, I can almost understand how certain Democrats feel by not voting for Obama in the GE.

Sadly, this echoes the sentiment of many Democrats nationwide...they will not vote for Obama. Some say this is just the emotional aspect of the primaries.

No....not when up to 50% of Hillary supporters NATIONWIDE say they won't vote for Obama. That number will almost certainly be lower by GE time, but it WILL NOT go away...sadly.

I don't know who Obama will be running against...McCain or his own party.

[Lilith Velkor]

50. It's the "fuck you, vote for me" strategy

It worked so well with the far left 5% in 2000 and 2004, they had to try it with the 50% who supported HRC this year.

You'd think that if the party needed purging so badly, it would have been done more than six months before the election.

[rodeodance]

28. Since Hillary is neither a bigot nor a racist there is no need to carry out your threat!!

[Lilith Velkor]

47. Threat?

:wtf:

[Arkansas Granny]

34. The reason it hasn't been detected sooner is because it isn't there.

[Lilith Velkor]

49. You know that and I know that

But most people here want to be sore winners, so they choose to ignore it.

[L0oniX]

51. Shhhhhhhh ...some Hillary supporters are racist. Please don't offend them....NOT !

[Lilith Velkor]

59. And some Barack supporters are sexist. What's your point?

Do you want Hillary supporters to vote for him, or are you in the "tell them to fuck off and vote for McCain" crowd?

[L0oniX]

60. Being a man hater, as it seems you might be is quite a bit different than being a racist.

[SeattleGirl]

22. I'm not gloating.

I'm just happy with how things are going for Obama.

[stratomagi]

23. I'll start gloating when the MSM starts paying attention to the

contrasts between Obama and McCain and McCain's poll numbers take a nose dive.

[ClayZ]

27. Don't mistake "real happy" for gloat!

If the shoe was on the other foot, I would be shaking my head and wondering why people could not SEE WHAT I SEE or HEAR WHAT I HEAR with my support of Obama.

I guess just more people could.

I hope you can too, someday!

[Warren Stupidity]

29. Nah - where are all the poutraged outta here tombstonemes?

Those are the posts that will be almost the most satisfying.

The posts I actually look forward to the most are the ones from those honest Clinton supporters who will announce publicly that they are now fully on board with Obama. Those are the loyal DU Democrats who have fought the good fight and played by the rules and who will be joining us to end the cabal's reign in washington. We have work to do. It is time to end the intra-party shitflinging contest and take our well honed fecal talents out to the real battleground.

[Marrah_G]

35. Warren-

________________________

"The posts I actually look forward to the most are the ones from those honest Clinton supporters who will announce publicly that they are now fully on board with Obama. Those are the loyal DU Democrats who have fought the good fight and played by the rules and who will be joining us to end the cabal's reign in washington. We have work to do. It is time to end the intra-party shitflinging contest and take our well honed fecal talents out to the real battleground."

________________________

As long as the party on the Obama train is stomping all over Hillary and vowing to destroy her career, I'm afraid I won't be hopping on that train. Instead I will be defending a good Democratic Senator with an outstanding liberal record.

[Warren Stupidity]

36. The vile posts have come from both sides here.

Obama supporters vastly outnumber Clinton supporters on this board, so I understand how you might feel isolated and under siege.

[Marrah_G]

37. My point is that we really can't get on board with you all right now.

Not until the stomping stops. Once that happens, I think you will see alot of us coming over to support Obama because in the end we are first and foremost, Democrats.

[Warren Stupidity]

39. The stomping continues from both sides.

Perhaps you ought to practice what you preach.

[Marrah_G]

40. Please find where I have attacked Sen. Obama in any way

I do practice what I preach.

I was with you in this post. I tried to explain why most Hillary supporters feel we cannot join you all yet. If you don't want to hear it, I don't fucking care.

[verges]

42. Is anyone asking you to support the supporters?

Support the Democratic candidate. Either a Democrat or a Republican is going to be the next resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. By marginalizing your own vote (witholding, voting third party that doesn't have a chance, write-in) you forfeit your chance to contribute to making the decision which one moves in. You can help stop the Republicans from moving in. The way to do this is to vote for the Democratic candidate. Every vote the Democrat does not get, is one less the Republican needs to get. Please, don't make their job easier.

[Marrah_G]

43. Who said anything about not voting for him.

I think you misunderstood my post.

[rox63]

31. As an Obama supporter, I feel for the Hillary supporters here on DU

It's really tough to lose the race when you've put so much of your hopes, dreams, hard work and faith into a candidate or campaign. I went through that in 11/04, and it thoroughly sucked. So I think the next couple of weeks need to be devoted to healing and acceptance, of the facts and each other. We all have to work together to make sure McSame does not win in November. So I won't gloat. I will leave DU's Hillary supporters to go through their own grieving process, even though I am very happy that my candidate won.

[Buzz Clik]

32. The pouting period started months ago and has been going nonstop. Allow us to gloat.

[BlooInBloo]

54. Heh. Like they have the power to ALLOW any fucking thing.

[Marrah_G]

33. Yup- same jerks, same assholish behavior

I took a tip from an Obama supporter and I have a list of all the really great DUers (and Obama supporters) that I love. Ones who post with intelligence, fairness and dignity. I do not always agree with them, but nor do they attack others for making a difference choice then they did. The list helps me remember that although the bad ones are louder, there are indeed more of the good ones.

I thank those from the bottom of my heart. The rest. The ones who thrive on being the biggest jerks they can possibly be. Well, in my mind they will remain part of a group who I feel nothing but contempt and disdain for forever.

[stillcool]

45. I don't know that there will be..

any 'gloating' period. A 'recovery' period maybe, but I doubt that some of the more ardent Clinton supporters will allow any healing to take place.

[SoonerPride]

46. I prefer to call it foreplay.

It feels so good.

[Occam Bandage]

48. You ain't seen nothin' yet.

[ShortnFiery]

55. Shit! No way. Your heroine is delusional and still dangerous spewing "I'm The Great WHITE Hope!

It's vile. No we dare not discount how fucking LOW HRC and her surrogates will go in order to cheat and/or steal their way to the democratic nomination. :nuke:

[marions ghost]

56. The gloating indicates

that there is a presumptive nominee and the rest is formality.

Hillary herself is extending the gloating period...

Don't worry, it'll be back to serious business very soon.

[genna]

57. McCain: Hamas not a below the belt reference

I am following the idea I read in the petition yesterday to just start posting articles about McCain until the presumptive season begins. Since I have too few posts, I can't start a new strand.


http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/05/09/mccain_touts_environmental_rec.html

Most of the questions from journalists during the press conference, however, centered on other controversial topics that have emerged in the campaign in recent days. When a reporter asked why McCain had touted the fact that a Hamas spokesman had spoken favorably of Obama, he defended making the connection even as he insisted he did not think his opponent sympathized with the terrorist group.

"All I can say is it's very obvious to everyone that Senator Obama shares nothing of the values or goals of Hamas, which is a terrorist organization. I think that's obvious. I've never implied anything else," he said, adding that the comments of a Hamas spokesman remain "a legitimate topic of discussion" in the campaign. "I think that's of interest to the American people, and that's something that needs to be discussed, why his policies meet the approval of the spokesman of Hamas."

[Lucky 13]

58. How can we gloat?! It's not even over!...as far as I know.

When I hear a concession speech THEN there may be some MOMENTARY gloating. Until then I'm fighting, gloves off, full force - just like her supporters.