Hillary's southern Oregon visit a bust

[FightingIrish]

She's running over two hours late, still a a no-show. They rented a much smaller venue that Obama did and it's half full. Her supporters were removing seats so the 1,200 seat arena wouldn't look empty. Her race will end in Oregon and tonight she should understand that.

http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080508/NEWS07/805080346

[AtomicKitten]

1. And she expects Obama to pay off the debt she continues to accrue?

I'm calling bullshit on that.

Thanks for the report. :)

[bluestateguy]

7. I'm not donating to Obama until that issue is settled

I don't want my hard-earned dollars going to pay of her campaign debt. Hence, I'll wait to see how this is resolved, and donate to him AFTER a decision is made, and/or he formally pays off her debt.

[AtomicKitten]

He said this is our campaign and I plan to hold him to it.

This isn't your grannie's politics anymore, and I firmly believe an entreaty to him from his donor base will be heard loud and clear.

[Stephanie]

25. How did this story get started? I missed it.

Is the Obama campaign actually considering it? Or is that just speculation?

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

32. I trust Obama, and his advisors have done a great job

so unlike with the DSCC etc, I will donate what I can all the way.

[BlooInBloo]

42. I'll donate to get her the fuck out. Just like I've been doing all along.

[malletgirl02]

34. When did she say this?

She actually expects Obama to pay off her debt? Unbelievable.

[Ichingcarpenter]

2. Real Photo from Oregon... Clinton new campaign headquarters to save $

A breakdown ............

[DJ13]

5. .......

:spank:

:rofl:

[Ichingcarpenter]

16. True photo sent to me by a friend in Portland

her car broke down on the way to the office. and she surpassingly put the sign up to attract attention

It is verified.

[ORDem]

21. Is that Hwy 217 and a Beaverton police car?? nt

[swishyfeet]

28. Looks like it... definitely the Btown fuzz nt

[Ichingcarpenter]

35. Yes it is from his response from me

I think it makes a great cosmic statement
on what is happening..... Zoom in on the Clinton supporter.

[Bullet1987]

3. She may actually do worse in WV than the polls will show

if enough of her supporters face reality that this thing is over.

[tekisui]

8. I am certain she'll do worse than the polls show.

Reality is setting in. No way she will get a 63/23 win. 40 point win for Hillary? Ain't gonna happen.

[bhikkhu]

13. No, no...it'll be 40 pts guaranteed!

We have been assured by the media and HRC - be positive!

;)

[msongs]

4. the only advantage to a convention with no winner is we might get al gore in a miracle finish nt

[tekisui]

6. About 600 supporters were all that attended?

That's not a good sign.

[99th_Monkey]

15. Especially in Jackson County, supposedly one of her "strongholds"

supposedly all the "hard-working white people" there are her "base".

Between this and her reception in DC today, it's not looking too good for Hillary; but at least
it's looking better for the Democratic party, having this race over asap.

I live & vote in Oregon, and we may put her over the top if enough more Supers weigh in for Obama
between now and May 20.

[roguevalley]

40. I don't know how she could consider Jackson County a stronghold.

They hate her there.

RV, who lived there half my life.

[ORDem]

23. It's a 1200 seat venue, but not sure if that includes chairs on the floor.

So, could be quite a bit less than 600. Pathetic.

:nopity:

[blonndee]

9. Article title: Supporters acknowledge Clinton faces long odds in race

text:

May 08, 2008

Democratic presidential contender Hillary Clinton didn't fill the Olsrud Arena tonight at the Jackson County Exposition Park in Central Point as the New York senator struggled to keep her campaign alive.

With little more than half of the 1,200-capacity-arena occupied, campaign organizers removed seats as Clinton supporters waited for her arrival for a town hall meeting.

Kelly Mowrer, 48, of Eagle Point said the odds are against Clinton after the latest primary results, but she plans to vote for her anyway.

"I think she's a very smart woman," said Mowrer. "I think Obama's going to win."

Colleen Horner said she hasn't made up her mind and wanted to see Clinton in person.

"Whoever wins I want to win in November," she said.

. . .

[99th_Monkey]

10. Rasumussen Poll in Oregon on May 4: It’s Obama 51%, Clinton 39%. GObama!!!! We love ya!!

But it was nice of her to stop in and say hi anyway.

I hope she enjoys her stay in Oregon .

I feel kinda sorry for her these daze, she needs a break, as in a serious vacation.

[MadBadger]

12. I think a poll in the coming days will show Obama up 15-20

[99th_Monkey]

17. I think you're correct, as Barak just gained alot of Momentum/MoJo since IN & NC

[MadBadger]

18. I wouldnt be surprised to see KY and WV get closer too

He wont win or come close to winning. BUt I wouldnt be surprised to see it close to 20 points or so.

[ORDem]

22. Sort of can't trust the polling in OR cuz we use exclusively mail-in ballots

and they've been out for over a week now. Just mailed mine in today. So, the effect of the IN and NC primary results is somewhat muted here.

:dem:

[quakerboy]

29. Yeah, but

Who but us very involved people actually send ours in in the first few days after getting them?

[FightingIrish]

11. The reason she's making the few who showed cool their heels

She was down the road in affluent Ashland raising $100,000. She does have her priorities.

[roguevalley]

41. I'm surprised anyone would still truly be for her. Ashland strikes me

as prime Obama territory. Jackson County is not good for her either.

[doublethink]

14. Another short story from Oregon tonight .....

Some chairs folding up before New York senator shows up
Posted by Matthew Preusch, The Oregonian May 08, 2008 19:47PM

A bad sign: Shortly after 7 p.m., workers started removing some folding chairs from the block of 400 or so set up in the center of the arena where Sen. Hillary Clinton is scheduled to speak tonight in Central Point.

Fire hazard? Fear of empty seats showing up in news photos and television coverage?

There's no word from the New York senator's campaign yet.

But with an hour to go before the start time and 50 chairs already pulled, about 100 were still left empty. Also, only half of the metal bleachers on either side had any people in them.

-- Matthew Preusch


http://blog.oregonlive.com/elections/2008/05/some_chairs_folding_up_before.html

[Beregond2]

19. I find

the idea of Jackson county being a Clinton stronghold strange. When I lived there, it was a very Republican area, and what Democrats there were, were mostly around Ashland, a VERY liberal area; much more likely to be Obama supporters.

[datopbanana]

20. Ashland is definitely Obama. Eugene will probably go 70-30 Obama

[DB1]

24. From a neighbor to the north, I wish I could be there, You guys are so lucky!

In Seattle you had to be like 4 hours ahead to even have a chance of hearing him in nearby on loudspeakers, 6 hours in advance to get into Key Arena which seats 18,000

[here_is_to_hope]

27. Californians...

Liberal Californians brought it on, transplanted democracy. Eugene and its liberal community, all formed by the hippie flood out of San Francisco in 1971. Many of those idealists settled there as well as Grants Pass and even Roseburg.
Ashland has had a significant GBLT community for at least 30 years and Cave Junction was/is a hotbed of off the grid homesteading communities.

[Beregond2]

44. You are

bringing back a lot of memories. I have lived in Ashland three different times in my life, and adore it. Unfortunately, all those Californians also brought California prices with them, so I can no longer afford to.

I used to be a fixture at Cook's, the gay bar that was there forever. It is gone now unfortunately, but I understand there is a new one. I'm visiting in August, so I'll be checking it out.

[here_is_to_hope]

26. I didnt even know she was here...n/t

[rodeodance]

30. Where did you get she was two hrs late? article does not say that. And what do you mean by a 'no-

show'?



"She's running over two hours late, still a a no-show"

[datopbanana]

31. lol. no-show = not there yet. are you foreign?

[rodeodance]

36. No need to be impolite. I was asking a question. No-show usually means

the person did not show up.


Now you say "not yet".

[datopbanana]

37. "still a no-show"

you're welcome.

[ruby slippers]

33. Verizon man to Hillary...."can you hear me now?"

[Lannigan]

38. I'm sure it was just like the PA appearance I went to

You know, the one where some Obama supporter on here said that they were charging $10 a head and there was no overflow crowd? All BS.

So what, it was half full? So what?

We all know she's not got the support in OR, another red state. So what.

[democrattotheend]

39. Oregon is a blue-leaning swing state

Gore and Kerry both won it. It was one of the 10 closest states in 2004.

[AllentownJake]

43. They don't like facts

careful now.

[RichardRay]

45. Heads up!! Look out!!

Jeeez, was that a goal post that just zipped by? Which way was it headed?