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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:37 AM
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Obama +822,379
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:40 AM
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1. What was the totall from MI and FL?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:40 AM
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2. 0-0
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:42 AM
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3. LOL I know that, he still wins even if you include them.
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Scooter24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:43 AM
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4. If you add Clinton's gains from those states
as is, Obama still is +150,000.

And remember, that is without Obama on the MI ballot.

There just isn't enough votes from this point going forward for her to win in any category- that being pledged delegates, states won, or popular vote.
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LVjinx Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:49 AM
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5. Obama's pop vote lead now seems insurmountable.
I really believed Hillary would pull a huge victory in Indiana. Kind of a reality check. I can't imagine any scenario, barring the discovery of a videotape of Obama clubbing baby seals (and maybe not even then!) that would allow Hillary to win the nomination now. It's a bitter realization, but the sooner I come to terms with it the better!

Congratulations to Obama... I really and truly believed that Clinton would be our nominee. Clearly, some fences need to be mended.
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terrell9584 Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:00 AM
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6. the problem is
If you just look at turnout differentials between this years primaries, and Hillary's expected margins in KY and WV

She can make up a lot of that in those states. Say it's impossible all you want, but just go into the data, check who voted in 2004 and then compare it to this years turnout.

Keep in mind she'll be getting 70% or better in both states. She can make up 70% of that deficit in those two states. She did have a big loss tonight. What she had in Indiana was not a quality win.....but it is still a win. What she had in North Carolina, was bad, very bad........but Obama's gains there will be more than erased by WV and KY.

Obama shouldn't even spend a dime or a moment of time in WV or KY. Lost causes. It will be a miracle if he gets 30% in either of them, an outright miracle, and just based on turnout this year, there are hundreds of thousands of votes. Clinton cuts down the margin.

Obama has to hold his ground, Oregon and states out west. He has to hold onto his states and run up the margins, because Clinton will be cutting that margin by hundreds of thousands in P.R. as well.

In all honesty, he has to focus on his states, because he will get drubbed in hers.

At the end of all this, Obama needs to have a sitdown with Clinton, promise her the most important committee chairmanship in the Senate, offer Bill the office of Secretary of State, and that will be that. Play this out, and then give the Clinton's whatever they want so that this can be resolved
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BklnDem75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:05 AM
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7. Or NOT!
She can concede gracefully and try to keep her seat here in New York.
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