Clinton the Populist beats McC

[emilyg]

the Populist Beats McCain
by TexasDarlin, Sun May 04, 2008 at 05:16:53 PM EST

General Election polls continue to demonstrate that Clinton is the far stronger candidate against McCain than Obama.

Real Clear Politics has data from 6 recent national General Election polls. In a Clinton v. McCain match-up, Clinton beats McCain in FIVE of the 6 polls. In an Obama v. McCain match-up, McCain beats Obama in 3 of the polls and ties him in one.

More importantly, in key battleground states, Clinton beats McCain in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida, while Obama loses to McCain in all 3 states. And RCP highlights a recent McClathy article about Obama's likely loss in Indiana to McCain. A new Rasmussen poll for New Hampshire claims "Clinton gains on McCain...Obama heads in opposite direction."

Obama's problems with working class voters have worsened, according to a story posted yesterday by the AP:


In an Associated Press-Yahoo
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/4/171653/4644

[ossman]

1. Obamas problem is that everybody is voting for him too much. He's so unelectable.... winning and all

[NanceGreggs]

31. Oh, don't you HATE when that happens?

He thinks he's who he is, what with all those votes and all.

I just don't understand why people can't see that the candidate he's beating would be the obvious choice!

Welcome to DU, ossman! :hi:

[Andy823]

Yeah, yeah, and

Elephants fly, right? :eyes:

[newmajority]

2. Clinton the corporatist beats no one

And if she's a populist, I'm Dick Nixon.

[ossman]

3. But, but, she stands in the back of a pick-up truck and slams shots of Crown Royal!

[Mz Pip]

16. Even I can do that

It doesn't make me electable. Just makes me look stupid and drunk.

[FrenchieCat]

4. Lobbyists are real people!

That's called a Prolobbyist.

Boy....these Corporations really, really want Hillary, don't they.

[Condem]

5. Polls for the GE

are worthless until we get a nominee.

[wileedog]

6. These polls don't take into account the damage incurred by SDs overturning the vote

They are pointless anyway - a poll 7 months before an election is mental masturbation at best. But these are even more useless.

[Name removed]

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[anigbrowl]

10. Don't forget Rezko

Wasn't that supposed to sink him? I'm still waiting the devastating revelations you guys promised.

[Forkboy]

11. "...a man who is friendly with a terrorist"

Thanks Rush.

You might want to ditch the "arrogant" argument, unless looking like a hypocrite is your bag.

[JoFerret]

13. 1972 AND 1988

rolled into one big looming disaster.

[MattBaggins]

27. Don't worry about that disaster.

Hillary is not going to be the nominee.

[JoFerret]

34. Somehow I get the feeling

you did not live through either slow motion train wreck.

Or you would not be so glib.

[Alexander]

14. Oh NOES!!1! Scary black man might actually become president!!1!

:rofl:

[emilyg]

23. I thought of it more as inexperienced man.

[Binka]

30. Oh Goody A Five Syllable Word That Means Black

Sure fire Miss Emily. Like Hillary has all that experience and such. Note to Em' standing by your cheating lout of a husband and hanging on the remnants of his coat sounds a bit like Scarlett O'Hara. Do you want Obama to make a suit out of the curtains too?

[Alexander]

33. If you're black, experience counts for only 3/5 as much, you see.

So Obama's 11 years of elected office only count for 6.6 years.

Hence the Shillbot argument that Hillary is somehow more "experienced", no doubt.

:crazy:

[emilyg]

41. I stood by my cheating husband.

Till you are in someone elses sows - you don't know what you are talking about.

[DMorgan]

17. Do I take this to mean you will vote for Mc Same?

Or are you just bitter when it comes to not getting something out of this for having supported Hillary ??



Do you want America to get smart, or are you willing to throw this all down the toilet if you don't get your way and don't get the candidate you want?

[wileedog]

20. I won't support the Party Elite overturning the Pledged Delegate vote

because they are too scared to nominate a black man, no. They can go fuck themselves.

Heck I wont support any party that can pick and choose its own corporate shill over the voters any time they want.

[FARAFIELD]

8. If she cant beat the (supposed weaker candidate) how can she beat McCain

Actually your post in lacking a vital thing. Although he is losing to McCain (right now) in those three states, he is much more compettitve in A LOT more states and winning some that she is behind. Six of one half dozen of another. But the truth is he can become more competitive in the states you said. But hes already more competitve. He makes red states Less red and she makes red states redder. Next time try reading the whole story at DD before you spout off.

[RBInMaine]

9. The "champagne-sipping, PAC/Lobbyist $-taking, WalMart/Rose Law Firm "populist"????

[dionysus]

clinton and populist in the same sentence, without the word not....

:rofl:

[Forkboy]

12. Either of them will beat McCain.

[Alexander]

15. Shillbot 3-state strategy: Only Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida matter.

Never mind New Hampshire, Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico, Wisconsin, Iowa and Virginia.

[Mz Pip]

18. You forgot Poland!

Oh, wait, never mind. Different PR thingy.

[emilyg]

24. Why is that funny?

[The Doctor.]

29. Bwhaahaha!

G1.

[paulk]

40. the idea that three of the largest states in the union somehow

don't matter has to be the most mind numbingly stupid argument coming out of the Obama camp yet.

It's the sort of thinking that loses elections.

We lose all three of those states and we lose, period. A handful of smaller swing states (and WI isn't a swing state, btw), are not going to make up the 68 EC votes of those three, especially since we're not going to win all of those smaller states you mention. The western strategy gets taken off the table by McCain, who is - surprise! - a westerner himself. We could very well lose all of the mountain west for just that reason - which only makes the big three swing states that much more important to win.

[DMorgan]

19. I wonder how much MYDD is funded by the Hillary folks

Seems like every other thing they say is like a surrogate for the Hillary campaign. They NEVER seem to focus on the REAL target, or make really logical arguments.

[emilyg]

21. I'll excuse your ignorance this time

Just as many articles on Obama are posted on MYDD.

[Forkboy]

25. That poster isn't long for our little community.

After calling Kucinich a turd and comparing his wife to a hooker I doubt his posts will be getting much more intelligent that what we see here.

[rodeodance]

39. ha ha. you r silly talking point is old, silly, and it is a LIE.

[NJSecularist]

22. K&R. Obama is unelectable. n/t

[cliffordu]

26. Unelectable outside the U.S. maybe....

[CreekDog]

28. When did Clinton become a populist?

what year?

[formercia]

32. Clinton, the Astroturf populist

Hillary is no more a populist than the Bushes.

Junior used the same faux average Joe you would like to have a beer with bullshit.

[Perry Logan]

35. We better lock this thread before the Obamites hurt themselves.

[smiley_glad_hands]

36. She's a centrist not a populist. eom

[Armstead]

37. Clinton is NO Populist...She just plays one on TV

[formercia]

38. That works for the average soap opera addict

since most of them can't tell the difference.

[BooScout]

42. Many of us have known this all along.....

Unfortunately some will never get it.