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ksoze Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:41 PM
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Obama Panic Meter is pegged
The unchecked euphoria over a doctored video about a supposed inference about Indiana people is proof of the Panic in Obama Park. The excitement and glee over even the possibility of anything not Obama will backfire. The proliferation of absurd titles and riot to post anything even remotely anti-Hillary is a direct gauge of the fear Obama fanatics find themselves stuck in. I'm gonna guess things in Indiania ain't going as hoped right now....
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:42 PM
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1. Link to the original video please...:)
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:43 PM
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2. Rush Limballs can go fuck himself.
:dem:
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:43 PM
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3. hahaha... agreed.
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FARAFIELD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:55 PM
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15. Hmm you could just change the words to reverand wright video
and you have the same story... Good night now.
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 06:26 AM
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40. how awful for you guy to be so unvetted that it would be possible to do such a thing.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:45 PM
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4. Nah, It's more that people are sick of the slime coming from
Camp Clinton.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:45 PM
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5. guess we'll know on Tuesday
best of luck to your candidate, but of course hope mine wins.

DU, however, is really no measure of any Obama panic meter since outrage is a staple around here, election year or no. It's just worse right now.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:45 PM
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6. So let me understand what you are saying... You saying that Obama was responsible for...
the video out of IN? If so lets see some proof!
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ksoze Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:49 PM
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11. Try reading the actual words as written
Re-read the OP, sit, think, call an adult or teacher for help, and then show me where I said OB was responsible for the video.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:28 PM
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22. Try posting the fucking words so they are clear.... n/t
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:40 PM
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25. Another sign of panic.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:42 PM
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26. Is that the best you got? Must be Panic mode... Pathetic.. n/t
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:53 PM
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27. Rereading your posts, it's possible that you just have an anger management issue.
G'day.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:19 PM
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32. Lol... Well if I do it's all you Hillbotts faults... I will seek Anger Management...
if you folks seek Delusional therapy. Deal?
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:21 AM
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55. they are just projecting again
they started projecting their failures and feelings on others on supertuesday
its more noticable now because her end is sooooooooo near
kind of how a crackhead would act if south america disappeared one day
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 09:23 AM
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42. There are reading comprehension classes at most local schools
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:22 AM
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56. you just need
regular comprehension to deal with reality
try it you might actually like it
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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:45 PM
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66. If the obama camp is not responsable for the vid...

how does the vid demonstrate anything about the obama camp's alleged panic?


Obama camp: "Oh no, what ever shall we do, were ahead on states won, ahead on delegates, and ahead on votes... time to panic!"

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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:45 PM
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7. What panic?
It's a close race now, but I don't sense anyone who's panicking. If Hillary were to win both states, she still can't catch up in pledged delegates and from what I'm reading the supers are trending Obama.

So let's just see how things turn out and set aside the exaggerations for now.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:46 PM
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8. Panic? I think not. More like glee over Karma returning the slime to Clinton.
It is disgusting what she gets away with.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:47 PM
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9. It's over.
Still.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:12 AM
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48. And was probably over before the Obama campaign biggies knew about it. n/t
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 01:55 PM
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62. It was over before I knew about it.
Retrospectively, I pin it to Wisconsin. Texas/Ohio made me reflect on it.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:47 PM
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10. excitement and glee over anything not Obama will backfire
So its okay for you clowns to carry on about the non issue of Wright for a month and a half, but the first day Clinton has her own problem you say it will backfire on Obama?

If anyone has their "Panic Meter" pegged its you Clinton supporters posting non-stop how "bad this is for the party" and "we need to post more about issues" now that you see how it feels.

:rofl:
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:55 PM
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16. They have run over themselves posting
about how we need to move on and such. Hell they had that Wright shit on DU for weeks now, thank god for ignore. If this wasn't such an issue and we are all crazy then why all these threads about how bad it is to talk about it? I have quite a few Hillary supporters on ignore so I cannot read the Wright shit.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:50 PM
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12. you're out of your mind.
there is no evidence what so ever to support your asinine assertion.
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:52 PM
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13. I just think Obama *supporters* are fed up, angry, & perhaps even bitter at how Hillary & the media
Edited on Fri May-02-08 05:52 PM by faithfulcitizen
have behaved. At least I am. I pretty pissed off, so yeah, when I see a video where "apparently" a clinton adviser calls me, a hoosier, shit, I will react regardless of how the polls look at the moment.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:09 PM
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19. Hillary and the media?
You MUST be joking. The media has given Little Lord Obama a full-on PASS. Checked up on the Rezko trial lately? The MSM won't report on it. Wonder why THAT is? That's just the tip of the iceberg.

Research...THEN react. Geez...

Hope you didn't miss Keith O. ranting and raving about Hillary and her appearance on Faux News over at Daily KO's. I guess he missed the FACT that Obama appeared on Faux the Sunday before. Journalism at its finest. Tell me, who should be "fed-up" and "angry"???
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:21 PM
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21. Yeah, what is the latest
on the Rezco trial? Do you have a good link on that?
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:32 PM
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23. Here ya go..
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:57 PM
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28. Thanks..........
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:25 AM
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57. this rezko?
or a different one?
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:09 PM
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30. Yeah that whole not stop
"Look Mommy a scary black man" pastorbation has been one hell of a free pass.

Ones buttocks should not be worn as head gear.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:18 PM
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36. What a ridiculous statement.
So much for unity, eh? It's so much easier to hurl insults when you've got nothing else...
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:20 PM
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33. probably b/c the Rezko trial has nothing to do with Obama.
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beezlebum Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:54 PM
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14. read any of my posts
Edited on Fri May-02-08 06:01 PM by beezlebum
and you will see that i am very much anti-hillary. i loathe her. i detest her. i am gleeful upon discovery of a new clinton blurb or talking point that is useful in my fight to keep her out of the white house. call me a clinton-hater and i will agree.

and yet, i am not, as you say, euphoric over this particular piece of shit. if anything, i am annoyed by it and even disturbed by it. it's sudden omnipresence is bothersome, even infuriating in light of the criminal robobot scandal. i will say i would not be surprised if this turned out to have been purposely "released" (a former advisor, free trader) as an operative/ distraction for "obama fanatics" who do not understand the potential charges of election fraud.

it will, unfortunately, probably backfire- though i stop way short of saying it would cost him the nomination. panic? nah. it's already over. that said, i do wish this garbage would go bye-bye. there is much more on hillary- why go after this bs when there are so many glaring, direct flaws? more, i'd rather stick to going after mccain at this point.
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:15 PM
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31. Rather suspicious isn't it?
Just like with Dan Rather and the fake document. Slip in one falsified document and use that to dismiss the entire allegations of Bush's lack of service. Guess what happens when people want to point at what "Womens Voices" did. People roll their eyes and say "oh is this just like what Obamas folks tried with that Kantor video". Try to come out with something real just after falling for a hoax doesn't work to well.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:07 PM
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35. Those "robo-calls"
are not "election fraud". "Automated Calls" themselves are illegal in North Carolina. "Roy Cooper says there could be sanctions and fines imposed on the group as a result of the calls.

AG: Recent Robo-Calls On Voting Info. Are Illegal

http://www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn/news.apx.-content-articles-NCN-2008-04-30-0016.html
Wednesday, Apr 30, 2008 - 10:00 PM Updated: 11:18 PM

By Steve Sbraccia
General Assignment Reporter
WNCN-TV

RALEIGH, N.C. -- Thousands of North Carolinians have received automated phone calls in the last few days that state officials said broke the law

As the complaints began to pile up, those cataloging them began to notice a pattern where certain groups seemed to be targeted.The situation was brought to the attention of Attorney General Roy Cooper’s office. He said those automated phone calls are illegal.

“They don't identify the group sponsoring the call, nor do they give the recipient info as to who they need to contact to stop the calls from coming,” said Cooper.
---------------------------------------

“A lot of the complaints came from African-American voters,” said Chris Kromm of the Institute for Southern Studies. “When ee heard a lot of the complaints were coming from African-Americans, that really raised a red flag for us.”

Kromm also said the institute's research indicates the Women's Voice group has a number of interesting connections to Bill Clinton.

“They claim they're a non-profit, non partisan organization. But, its president is a recent donor to Hill-Pac, a big Hillary funding group. The executive director worked for Bill Clinton in his ‘92 campaign and the lawyer for the organization is the lawyer who defended Clinton during the impeachment crisis in
the 90's,” said Kromm


FACING SOUTH EXCLUSIVE:
D.C. nonprofit aimed at women voters behind deceptive N.C. robo-calls
By Chris Kromm
Facing South

The D.C.-based nonprofit, led by well-connected Washington operatives, claims in a press release they sent to Facing South that the North Carolina calls are part of a 24-state effort targeted at a list of 3 million voters, especially unmarried women. The robo-calls, which never mention Women's Voices, are followed by mailings that include information on how to register to vote. They plan to mail some 276,000 packets in North Carolina alone.

But since last November, in at least 11 states nationwide, Women's Voices -- sometimes working through its Voter Participation Center project -- has developed a checkered reputation, drawing rebukes from leading election officials and complaints from thousands of would-be voters as a result of their secretive tactics, deceptive mailings and calls, and penchant for skirting or violating the law. For example:

* In Arizona last November, election officials were "inundated with complaints" after Women's Voices sent a mailing erroneously claiming that recipients were "required" to mail back an enclosed voter registration form. Many who received the mailing were already registered; the mailing also gave the wrong registration date. Secretary of State Jan Brewer denounced the group's tactics as "misleading and deceptive." A similar mailing in Colorado that month " fire and caused confusion," according to a state press release.

* In Wisconsin, state officials singled out Women's Voices for misleading and possibly disenfranchising voters, stating in a press release : "One group in particular -- Women's Voices. Women Vote, of Washington, D.C. -- apparently ignored or disregarded state deadlines in seeking to register voters,"
sending in registrations past the January 30 deadline and causing "hundreds of Wisconsin voters who think they registered in advance" to actually not be.

* Michigan officials ended up "fielding tons of calls from confused voters" after Women's Voices did a February mailing to "380,000 unmarried women" -- including numerous deceased voters and even more that were already registered. Sarah Johnson of Women's Voices "seemed confused by the confusion," the Lansing
State Journal reported.

* A 1.5 million-piece Women's Voices mailing in Florida falsely stated: "To comply with state voting requirements, please return the enclosed application." Pasco County's elections supervisor called it "disingenuous"; another said it created "a lot of unnecessary panic on behalf of the voters," reported local newspapers. Sarah Johnson of Women's Voice said, "I'm sorry to hear that."

* By March, Women's Voices was backing off the erroneous "registration is required" language, but there were still problems. For example, a mailing in Arkansas allowed that "registering to vote is voluntary," but a clerk in Washington County reported that "the majority sent back to the county come from registered voters, causing needless labor for office employees."

Problems with the group's tactics have also been documented in Louisiana, Kentucky and Ohio.In each state, the Women's Voices campaigns have brought the same news and the same themes, again and again: Deceptive claims and misrepresentations of the law -- sometimes even breaking the law. Wildly inaccurate mailing lists, supposedly aimed at "unregistered single women," but in reality reaching many registered voters as well as families, deceased persons and pets. Tactics that confuse voters and potentially disenfranchise them.

For such a sophisticated and well-funded operation, which counts among its ranks some of the country's most seasoned political operatives, such missteps are peculiar, as is the surprise expressed by Women's Voices staff after each controversy.

http://southernstudies.org/facingsouth/2008/04/facing-south-exclusive-dc-nonprofit.asp


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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:56 PM
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17. "Indiania"...lol...n/t
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:58 PM
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18. Stop drinking before 7 p.m.
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:15 PM
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20. really getting tired of republican.....
posts on this site, but all are welcome at our big table.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:39 PM
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24. You mean "Picnic", right?
He's eating Hill's lunch.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:00 PM
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29. No, it's a full-scale self-immolation. A total meltdown.
Obama's supporters are not exuding confidence right now.
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Yossariant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:25 PM
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34. His internal polling must be abysmal.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:57 AM
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41. Could just be the hyperactivity of the
on-line Obama follower base and "rapid response" knee jerk team

Their paranoia and abusive reactor meters are on overdrive.
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:21 PM
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37. Yup ...They have lost control of their bowels /nt
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:24 PM
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38. oh, horseshit
nonsense posted on the Internet, whether it is doctored video or dumb posts on a discussion board aren't reflective of what is really happening in either campaign.
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:27 PM
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39. no panic here
he's STILL going to win. Hillary's STILL going to lose.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 09:24 AM
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43. People are paniced because he won?
Seems silly.
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 09:27 AM
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44. Obama is winning by every metric.
What's even funnier than getting a laugh out of a doctored video is getting the vapors over people getting a laugh out of a doctored video.

Get it?

Most votes
Most states won
Most pledged delegates
Most money raised.
Most reasonable path to the nomination.
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ksoze Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:02 AM
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46. What color is the ribbon for "Most reasonable path to the nomination."
and the "Most money raised" contest is a sure fire predicter of the final winner...oh, yeah forgot about McCain. I agree in priciple, he is winning by any horse race standard, but this Dem Primary race is rigged by the PTB not be a simple horse race. If it was, she may be crowned already.
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:04 AM
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47. Oh, so it's a 'rigged race' now? That's convenient.
Was it rigged by the guy who invented math?
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ksoze Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:19 AM
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52. Rigged by the SD mess
Not rigged by voting - the dem primary system is helping in the divisiveness.
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:39 PM
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64. The "SD mess" is Clinton's only path to the nomination.
Or is it a 'mess' because supers are rightly supporting Obama, who has won the most contest, the popular vote, etc?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 09:58 AM
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45. Error: You've already recommended that thread.
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:13 AM
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49. You couldn't be more wrong
Edited on Sat May-03-08 11:13 AM by TragedyandHope
Some of us fell for the video because it showed exactly how ridiculous the distraction of the never-ending Wright coverage has been.

We got over it in a few hours. After months, RWers and Hillary supporters still can't get past the fact Obama is not Wright and that none of Obama's public service, speeches or writings are within a thousand miles of Wright's words. On the contrary, Obama actively speaks and works against them.

In case you hadn't noticed, Obama has already won this race.
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ksoze Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:20 AM
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54. No, I did not notice "Obaba won this race"
but then again I live on this planet Earth.
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:31 AM
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59. Well, here's our "panic"...
Edited on Sat May-03-08 11:31 AM by TragedyandHope
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:15 AM
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50. I don't think Obamites are responsible for that video. What makes you think it is? I thought itwas
I thought it was probably by Hillbots to give the appearance that - I think the line goes..."there's a conspiracy against me."

Anyway, that's what I think.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:18 AM
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51. What Is This About?
clueless in regards to Obama Park post!!
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:20 AM
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53. You are whistling past the graveyard.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:26 AM
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58. Look like HilLIARy over played it again....
...too bad she could not get someone to do a better job doctoring it.

Ooooooh, boo hoo....she missed her latest whine fest.

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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:34 AM
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60. Yawn.
It. Is. Over.
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 12:08 PM
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61. Panic Park. It shows too.
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 03:50 PM
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63. Always the ones UNDER 1000 posts, you notice?
Please, please, go back to posting on the Limpballs site. This is really getting boring, pointing out you Rushites.

I am SICK of the media trying to choose the Dem's candidates for them. This is the first time that we have had a candidate that is financed by the American people, alone, and the media is trying to destroy him.

You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:41 PM
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65. Totally petrified especially with all early voting largely going Obama. Help what will I do.
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