Kantor CLEARLY says regarding Indiana voters as "those people are shit"

[zulchzulu]

Here is the audio (MP3):
Here is the video (MP4):

The transcript:

Stephanopolous: Looks pretty good...

Kantor: Yes...yes...yes...yes... look at... look at Indiana...wait...wait... look at Indiana... 42-40... it doesn't matter if we win... those people are shit! Oh excuse me...

The rest of it is in question... but clearly, Kantor stated that he thought the Indiana voters were "shit". If Kantor going to deny that he didn't say the people of Indiana are "shit"?

Original section on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_wKOgMNs0U

Scroll to 4:42 where Kantor high-fives Stephanopolous.

[KittyWampus]

1. no, he doesn't. You were Mickrolled. Laugh at teh stupid and move the fuck on.

[PoliticalAmazon]

47. I dunno. There's a lot of controversy. Let's all contact the news shows...

..and ask them to play the clip over and over again so that American voters can decide for themselves.

[Bluebear]

2. There's always one that watches Bambi again & again hoping Mom won't die.

[Cant trust em]

5. Bambi's mom dies?

Way to ruin the movie for me.

[Bluebear]

9. Sorry, I should have posted SPOILER

:)

[cascadiance]

35. Yes, and I watched that one video CD single of Madonna and it DOES show her breast...

... even if the censors don't want you to find their editing mistake...

Maybe we can get google to "censor the truth" on this video clip too because it becomes "controversial" for being true to the original...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LY1RNuzT4XU

Go to 1:37-38 in this clip.

[AllexxisF1]

3. Dude....I am the biggest Obama supporter here ....

and this video was doctored and in no way did Kantor say the people in Indiana are shit.


He clearly (when you put on head phones) says "Those people are shit ...excuses himself in front of camera and lowers voice while looking away "in the white house".



The real question is who posted this piece of shit.

[zulchzulu]

13. So when Kantor says "it doesn't matter if we win..." followed by the statement...

...that he is referring to the White House?

He was obviously trying to play down that possibility that Indiana was not going to go to Clinton.

Also, if you look at Kantor throughout the documentary, he is a snivelling little asshole who screams with joy when the Clinton people shut down Jerry Brown, who won several states, from making a simple address at the convention. It's near the end of the film.

[JoFerret]

49. 1992 was a great campaign

caught on camera by a good filmmaker.
Pipe down with your critique.

[TwilightGardener]

4. That's what I heard and saw.

[MarvelousMellifluous]

6. What do you think about this movie.

The war room.

[zulchzulu]

15. I own a copy...

It's certainly an interesting documentary of the Clinton 1992 campaign. Well worth a viewing if you haven't seen it.

[ShortnFiery]

25. IMPORTANT: Does this tape have "subtitles"? If so, does he Cantor say "shit", is it SUB-TITLED?

:shrug:

[zulchzulu]

38. Mine doesn't have subtitles...

Pretty low on the production level...

[cliffordu]

7. No he doesn't. Please drop this now.

It's specious bullshit, as much as I'd like it to be true.

[TwilightGardener]

14. The film critic in WaPo thought Kantor said this too--in 1993.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

19. And, he appears to havebeen wrong as well, but, it appears that his review was the "Jumping off"

point from which the Obama campaign decided to act. Except, they had to add to the soundtrack, huh?

[cliffordu]

23. Too bad you're wrong about that, too.

the Hill crowd are the only one using NEOCON tactics anywhere here, and all your personal spin won't make it any different.


Fail.

[ShortnFiery]

26. Everyone HEARS WRONG when they disagree with HRC, Kantor and her surrogates.

:eyes:

[cliffordu]

37. I'm an OBAMA maniac, ask anyone.

so don't smear my character by intimating that I am a Hillary supporter.

[Adelante]

44. "the Obama campaign decided to act"

What do you mean by that?

[2rth2pwr]

8. HeeHee.

[suston96]

10. The director of that movie speaks:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith /

Pennebaker: Clip Doctoered

I just spoke to D.A. Pennebaker, the director of "The War Room," who said his film had been doctored to produce a widely-viewed YouTube clip.

In a clip from his film on the 1992 Clinton campaign, posted to YouTube today, Clinton advisor Mickey Kantor is -- according to subtitles -- seen referring to Indianans with an expletive and to his colleague George Stephanopolous with a racial slur.

"He does not say that. He does not say that," said Pennebaker, after viewing the clip.

He said the initial expletive referred to the anticipated reaction in the Bush White House to the fact that Ross Perot's polling numbers were holding strong.

"What he says is he’s surprised Perot’s numbers are holding," said Pennebaker in a brief phone interview. "He says they must be shi**ing in the White House."

The second expletive, he said, appeared to have been entirely fabricated, with new audio dubbed onto the original movie.

Pennebaker appeared surprised and amused by the video.

"A thousand people saw that film in theaters and didn't think" the second expletive had been used, he said. "It's very clearly understandable. It's not like it was in Bulgarian."

The sound you hear is the toilet flushing a wet dream away......LMAO!

[PoliticalAmazon]

48. I hope they sue. Then Kantor and the Clintons will be open to the discovery process....

...Ooo-la-la! I can't wait to get my hands on those records!

[dailykoff]

11. Thanks

why does Enron come to mind?

[ProSense]

12. He does.

Jake Tapper reposted on the Kantor issue:

It's all a mess, though I must say when "The War Room" came out other folks interpreted Kantor to be impugning Indiana residents.

In The Washington Post's review of the film in 1993, critic Desson Howe referred to "a Mickey Kantor comment about the people of Indiana (when it looks as though Clinton's ahead in Dan Quayle's state)."

And a 1995 story in the Sydney Morning Herald said that "As for the good folk of Indiana, they are still recovering from the 1993 documentary War Room, which revealed the grim truth behind the Clinton election campaign. It showed Mr Kantor bursting in on election night to tell other campaign staffers that incredibly, Mr Clinton was doing well even in Republican Indiana. 'And those people are s---!' he declared breathlessly."

Still, when is Hillary's campaign going to address her campaign's RW e-mail smears against Obama?

[Poll_Blind]

16. Deserves it's own post! n/t

PB

[powergirl]

21. Post this one separately ProSense

This is how they campaigned. She impugned the people of Mississippi and she said "screw 'em" of white working class folks. This is who they are. This is what they are about.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

22. So one movie critic mishears the dialog. This was included in the WaPo editorial, as well.

Along with the fact that the video was sent from a "Pro Obama" marketing firm to the media. Guess they had to add their own little touch of fakery, though, to really make it stick.

[PBS Poll-435]

34. I think I am going to go with the film's director on this.

The WaPo thing doesn't specify what comment was made.

The description of the event by the Sydney Morning Herald doesn't, at all, match the scene in the clip that we all watched today.

[rocktivity]

17. REASONABLE DOUBT!!!

"He does not say that. He does not say that," said Pennebaker, after viewing the clip.

:(
rocknation

[ShortnFiery]

27. But but ... the Illustrious "Chucky T" of MSNBC tells us that "there's nothing to see here"

If Chucky T says that the guy didn't say that, well ... Chucky T knows EVERYTHING about "delegate math" ... he must know the truth about this too? :crazy:

[rocktivity]

36. I've noticed that Chucky T has also toned down his primary math reporting

He hasn't been talking about how Hillary needs to get at least 68% of the vote anymore. Is he under orders from above to keep the primary race "alive?" And if so, it for political or commercial reasons?

:headbang:
rocknation

[Mezzo]

18. BULLSHIT.

[meow mix]

20. thats what i hear and see

k&R

[ShortnFiery]

24. But the pseudo-journalists in the M$M tell us not to believe our stinking' ears.

The M$M is forcing this story "down the memory hole."

Is there ANYONE (moveon.org?) that can take them on?

Otherwise, they (Kantor with assistance from the M$M) will be successful in *altering reality* to match HRC's Campaign interests.

[LSK]

28. you are wrong - he says shitting

referring to Bush in the White House

[zulchzulu]

30. Consult your doctor. You have bad hearing...

Ferchrissakes...look at the video. Kantor EMPHATICALLY says "those people are shit" followed by "excuse me..."

[LSK]

31. those people are shitting in the white house

Excuse me for swearing while on camera.

I watched it several times and thought what you thought at 1st. I changed my mind and there is nothing wrong with that.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

29. That doesn't even make any sense in that context!

:banghead:

Unless Mickey Kantor has Tourettes Syndrome or something.

Come on, everyone. Move along.

[BlueIdaho]

32. Dirty Tricks...

At this point it may not matter if its true or not. The real issue is - has this clip become part of the collective conversation - and how does that fit into the perception of HRC. Does this re-enforce a perception of the Clintons - does it dredge up the past and with that past negatives about a scandal filled White House.

This Obama supporter rejects dirty tricks but the Clintons know first hand that they do work. Right?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

41. What The Fuck

It's o k to lie about somebody if you don't like them...

Where did you get those ethics?

[Blue_State_Elitist]

33. Those people are shitting themselves in the white house.

Try again.

[dailykoff]

42. The pumpernickel is sitting in the white pillars.

Clear as a bell!

[jmg257]

39. Nope"..if we win..those people are shitting..uh excuse me,..you work here(?)..IN THE WHITE HOUSE"..

I couldn't get what the other questionable comment was...something LIKE "how would you like to be...trying to block this wound?"

[dailykoff]

40. Do you have the DVD?

I'm inclined to trust the original over any digitized copies, and zulch owns the DVD.

[sinderello]

43. Youtube clips don't count as evidence. Give us the orgininal movie

Did you purhase the original movie, or read the transcript provided by ABC's Political Punch, which debunked this lie?

[dailykoff]

45. He owns the original DVD, yes.

He's said it several times.

[TK421]

46. Is this garbage STILL on the front page? This has already been discredited

didn't you get the memo?