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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:15 PM
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YouTube PULLS Kantor Video
Edited on Fri May-02-08 12:16 PM by kpete
YouTube PULLS Kantor Video
by Walt starr
Fri May 02, 2008 at 10:09:19 AM PDT
ABC NEws PULLS Jake Tapper's story on this.

This has gone over the top. As soon as something pops up against Clinton, down the memory hole it goes.

How much power does somebody have to wield in order to pull this stuff so quickly?

The fact that the evidence is now disappeared is a bigger issue than the original video, IMO.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/5/2/1375/56087/709/507793
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:16 PM
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1. 4:45 right here....
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:17 PM
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4. This needs to be saved, ASAP.
No doubt it will be gone soon too. Then nobody will be able to listen and decide for themselves.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:18 PM
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8. Use zamzar.com
www.zamzar.com
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:23 PM
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27. Go here and click "download video"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=126788&mesg_id=126788

Thats how I got a copy of the original shorter, enhanced one.

You can get a free .flv player from download.com if you don't have software that can read it.

Waiting to hear from Skinner if I can post a link to it here.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:16 PM
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2. I can has legs?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:16 PM
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3. It might be on the torrents now! Information wants to be free!
I'd check but I'm at work and they told us never ever to use torrents here.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:17 PM
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5. Because it was fake designed to character assasinate? Plenty of vids of the original are on there.
Edited on Fri May-02-08 12:18 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:19 PM
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11. then show a vid of the "original" where he doesnt say "worthless white nigger"
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:35 PM
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40. That is an offensive word and he didn't say it, here's one of many sources debunking this.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:18 PM
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6. Clinton's lawyers strike a blow for oppressed speech, and some where Cheney smiled
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:18 PM
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7. What are you smoking?
It's clearly fake.

god - you people are just like Bush-followers!
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:20 PM
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12. Lots of stuff on YouTube is faked. Normally, they only delete violent content
Edited on Fri May-02-08 12:21 PM by beachmom
or I assume sexual content. It is odd if they deleted this on YouTube. The whole story was kind of stupid, but stupid runs the day on YouTube. Why delete it?

Edit: maybe they deleted it because of copyright infringement. From the director. That could be it.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:32 PM
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37. no, they delete anything that gets them in legal trouble
including copyright violations, invasions of privacy, and in this case, alleged libel/slander.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:21 PM
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17. Go to the original
Turn your sound up.

It's clear as a bell.

He definitely said the "N" word.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:19 PM
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9. The Dkos diary you reference is deleted. What was it? nt
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:19 PM
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10. the damage, if you really care, its that Kantor/Clinton's campaign say Indiana doesn't matter
whether or not he says shit or shittin (as in, GOP are shittin) in context he is saying Indiana doesn't matter.
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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:21 PM
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16. They never said that. The damage is on Obama for this.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:22 PM
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19. And how is that? The Obama campaign had NOTHING to do with this.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:20 PM
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13. Cause it's FAKE. Youtube doesn't want a libel suit. nt
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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:20 PM
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14. The video was clearly doctored by someone atttempting to orchestrate an October surprise
The director even admitted that it was bogus. Why would they allow it to stay up after such a revelation?
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:22 PM
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22. Please cite your sources.
Thank You.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:25 PM
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29. Allow me
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:31 PM
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36. Lazy much? The sources are not hard to find. Do your own work.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:26 PM
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45. Typical Clinton supporter compassion here.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:23 PM
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23. Kantor called Indianans shit in every version
you cannot refute that.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:24 PM
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28. It's easily refutable
he says "those people are shitting", referring to the Bush camp.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:21 PM
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15. Is the DVD of the movie subtitled for English? Since the sub titles on the DVD
would have been added at the time of manufacturing, I would be interested to see how this segment was subtitled. Would the dialog say "inaudible" or what does it say?
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Fermezlabush Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:21 PM
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18. Could the fact that it was fake have anything to do with it?
Edited on Fri May-02-08 12:23 PM by Fermezlabush
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/
""What he says is he’s surprised Perot’s numbers are holding," said Pennebaker in a brief phone interview. "He says they must be shi**ing in the White House."
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:31 PM
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35. Not in Obama conspiracy moon-bat world.
Too bad for them on this one, they wanted it SO BADLY.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:36 PM
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41. Buy the original right here Hillbot:
http://www.amazon.com/War-Room-James-Carville/dp/B0002JUXDS

He says the same fucking thing, moonbat.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:09 PM
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44. moon-bat?
make a wrong turn at albuquerque?
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:22 PM
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20. Down the memory hole...
Lawyers must have gone out and made a bunch of threats.

Can someone repost the video?
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davidlynch Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:22 PM
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21. NOT FAKE--SEE ORIGINAL DVD (Many Posts Elsewhere) n/t
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:23 PM
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24. Our last - best hope is MoveOn.org. They need to get this quote OUT THERE to Indiana.
4:45 "Those people are shit. How does it feel to be a worthless white nigger?"

Hell, those of us that that the software can continue to send it around to all our friends.

SOMEONE must have been able to transform it into an wmv or MPEG file?!?

Pass it around!!!
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:23 PM
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25. I checked out the original
and it just didn't seem to me like the guy said what they said he did. I jumped on it this am having not ever seen the original.now I have seen it and and I cant say i buy the story.....just goes to show you have to look twice and check sources before you jump in.

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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:23 PM
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26. Hillary owns YouTube. Betcha did'nt know that.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:26 PM
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30. One thing I know for A FACT. An HRC Presidency would be as unitarian - and - cloaked in secrecy as
Edited on Fri May-02-08 12:27 PM by ShortnFiery
the horrific Bush reign that we've had to endure for the last 7+ years.

Please, let's stop the POWER HUNGRY autocrats from destroying the last vestiges of our Democratic Republic.

Get this out there ... HRC's surrogates call people from Indiana "shit" and "worthless white niggers."
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:27 PM
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31. No, I am sure it is the director of the film who requested it be removed.
He is who the Clintons own.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:30 PM
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34. He has a person interest in protecting the players
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:49 PM
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43. Shhhhh!
Vulpua chowda xulub baldorivk poola poola.

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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:29 PM
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32. Good for them. Smart move. Too bad for Obamababbies who wanted so badly to believe this lie
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southern_belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:29 PM
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33. Surprise, surprise, surprise
We didn't hear what we thought we heard OR it was a "misstatement". Hillary Clinton makes me sick. Do these people know HOW to tell the truth??? :puke:
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:32 PM
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38. Layers upon layers, where is the truth buried in all this? n/t
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purji Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:33 PM
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39. maybe its me but the link tells me it cant find this story.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:46 PM
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42. This is the link to the original "War Room"
not the version with an excerpt with sub-titles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_wKOgMNs0U
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