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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:07 AM
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TYT: The Six Degrees Of Barack Obama
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-daou/why-did-russert-ask-obama_b_14258.html

The latest right-wing game is to pin controversial figures, who might have said or done anything objectionable at any point in their lifetimes, to Barack Obama. Then make him apologize for them. Then make him denounce and reject them. And then say he hasn't done enough to "distance" himself from them.

It could be his pastor, it could be his neighbor, it could be someone he served on a board with, it could be someone who donated to him, it could be someone who gave him an unsolicited endorsement (Louis Farrakhan http://mediamatters.org/items/200802270006) or it can just simply be someone who is black (Harry Belafonte http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-daou/why-did-russert-ask-obama_b_14258.html).

So, let's play the six degrees of Barack Obama game and see who else he should denounce and reject. I'll start off the festivities. I'm an easy one. I connect to him in only two degrees. I know Josh Orton, who worked on the online side of his campaign for some time. Bingo. Obama now owns everything I have ever said.

He's not going to like what he finds. Although I am perfectly reasonable in politics (though given to fits of vitriol), I am a fervent agnostic. I have argued vehemently against religion. Quotes of mine in this field could be devastating to Obama. I'll provide no links here; it wouldn't be fun if I did the media's job for them. Have fun, it's a treasure hunt.

Worse yet, I was born Muslim. I went to school in Turkey until I was eight (that will be translated as "attended a madrasa" by Fox "News" Channel). His connection to a known Muslim and atheist (come on, who is going to bother with the distinction between agnostic and atheist in the sound bite world) could be devastating. Is America ready for non-flag wearing, Muslim, atheist two heart beats away from the president?

If you think it's damaging that I am only two people removed from Obama, it gets worse. I often speak favorably of Obama on our show www.theyoungturks.com and among the remaining candidates he is clearly my favorite! Aha, that's the equivalent of an endorsement. He might not have asked for it, but just by the virtue of me issuing it, he's stuck with it.

I hope he at least does me the solid of denouncing my words and not my entire existence. It's gotta sting to have your whole being denounced and rejected.

I invite all of you to play along. See how many degrees it takes you to get to Obama and how enthusiastically and vociferously he has to denounce you.

Now, unfortunately, there is one man who is not allowed to play -- John McCain. Because the media has decided that while it is eminently fair to attach any person Obama has ever met (or in some cases not even met) to him, you can never look into anyone that John McCain has ever been associated with. He is a maverick, moderate, war-hero, straight-talker. So, obviously he doesn't need to answer for anyone in his past or undergo any of the Obama treatment. Sorry, John. This is one fun game you'll have to sit out.

Though there will be this awkward moment when people realize Barack Obama knows John McCain. And he is therefore is responsible for everything McCain says -- even though he is running against him. Wrap your mind around that one.

I do have some concerns about this though. I wonder if this game will distract from the real issues. I wonder if people will see through it as an obvious attempt to smear Obama by association. I wonder if people will realize it has absolutely nothing to do with how Obama would govern if he were elected. I wonder if people will wonder why it's only done to one candidate and not the others.

Nah, probably not. Don't want to ruin the fun, let's just keep mindlessly playing it until November and see what happens.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:18 AM
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1. Peter Daou now works for Hillary. The first paragraph sums up the BS perfectly
As I posted recently: All the cries for Obama to do/say something, what's he supposed to say or do?

When Fox Noise jumped on the clips, some people were freaking out, saying "Obama has to address this now." The idea was to end the controversy. Obama gave his speech on race, satisfying those who were nervous, but the media created another scandal out of his speech.

Fast forward 10 weeks, the never-ending smear on Wright (including Hillary during the debate) continues.

Wright has every right to defend himself. I think Dick Durbin speaking out against Wright last night, not having seen the speech, was folly. They keep doing the very thing that feeds the media assholes.

Two things Obama has said:

"He doesn't speak for me."

"He has every right to speak his mind."

What else does he need to say?

I hope Wright becomes a thorn in the side of his critics.

_______________

They move the goal, and then challenge Obama, and then move the goal again.

He had to denounce the comments when the media kept playing the clips over and over out of context.

Once the distortions became know, Obama did say that you can distort anyone by looping the five worse things they've ever said.

That's key, the media should be called on their distortions.

The hype to try to spin Wright's latest appearance as controversial is complete idiocy.


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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:38 AM
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3. Yes, and your last sentence sums it up perfectly. By the way...
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 11:22 AM by ihavenobias
I should also include these three great YouTube clips on Obama in case anyone missed them:

How Obama Should Re-frame the Patriotism Issue-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YcS0cTC7ew&feature=user

How Obama Should Fight On The Hamas Issue-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcxK3YH3Mjk&feature=user

Guess Who Else Isn't Wearing a Flag Pin-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi5nbZvS9cg

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:07 AM
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4. Thanks for the clips. n/t
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:18 AM
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2. I'm two degrees from him
I am friends with Nancy Skinner and worked on her campaigns here in Michigan. She ran against Barack when she lived in Illinois and they got to be pretty good friends on the campaign trail.

I suppose now he has to denounce me if I disagree with him on anything. So far, I can't think of anything, but you never know what might come up.

Oh, yeah, I've got one. I don't wear a flag pin.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:13 AM
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5. How about this - Dubai Ruler & Bill - HRC & Bilderberg's - Clinton's & Vin Gupta - etc. etc. etc....
If you haven't seen this post - take a look! It should say it all about associations! Why aren't the MSM talking about this? Like I said, they will probably be owned by these people the way it is going - sooner then later!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5731126&mesg_id=5731126
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:30 AM
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6. K&R
:kick:
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:32 AM
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7. I'm two degrees away.
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 11:34 AM by intheflow
I met Joan Baez in 1989. She endorsed Obama in 2008. Obviously, Obama is responsible for the sermon I preached on American fascism in 2005.


Edited to add: I'm even closer to McCain. I met him on the Gulf Coast in 2006 when he came to Mississippi with Trent Lott to lie to the residents about rebuilding the Coast. Now if the CM wants to saddle him with my fascism sermon, I'd be delighted.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:46 PM
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12. Hmm...
Well, being in IL I'm sure I'm close, but I haven't figured out how close yet. I mean, my girlfriend's Aunt is Mayor Daley's cousin, so...
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:59 AM
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8. It's amazing how little attention this thread is getting as some people
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 12:00 PM by ProSense
join the media in predicting doom for Obama's campaign or calling on Obama to provide further proof that he and Wright are two different people.

Where is the proof that Wright is damaging Obama's campaign?

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Kaylee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:04 PM
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9. I busy trying to figure out how I can connect myself to Obama......
...there has to be a fourth cousin, twice removed somewhere.

Despite my pitiful list of acquaintances and relations, I did recommend this thread.

:hi:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 12:42 AM
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21. Yeah, I want a degree of
ObamaB-)!
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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:30 PM
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16. Bump!
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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:27 PM
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10. Bump!
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:14 PM
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11. This is some "game" they playing with Sen. Obama, and it's not just the right wing either.
Great piece nobias, thanks for posting.

K/R.

:kick:
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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:05 PM
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13. That is true
It is not just the right wing!
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:57 PM
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15. Right
Watered down corporate "centrists" in the MSM are guilty too.
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:40 PM
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14. k & r
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:18 PM
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17. I'll play...
my Mr used to work with Leo Gerard, who's the president of the United Steelworker's union. We saw him shaking Obama's hand at a rally. I guess that puts me only 2 degrees away now.

I'm about as far left as its possible to go, and I'm what is referred to by some as a tin foil hatter. For instance, the day 9-11 happened, I said I wouldn't be surprised if Bush had something to do with it, and I still feel that way. I'm not black however I do agree with Rev Wright and don't think he's a looney at all. I see chemtrails and believe the ones that think they are merely contrails are blind. I think vaccines and fluoride are poison. And lots lots more...

Poor Obama is in deep trouble for the things I say, and he better apologize.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:51 PM
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19. Ha, ha...
That's a good one. :)
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 12:36 AM
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20. "Poor Obama is in deep trouble for the things I say, and he better apologize."
:D
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:00 PM
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18. Evening Kick
:kick:
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:34 PM
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22. Kick
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