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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:52 AM
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Do we really want a President who "accidently" understates debts by 1/3?
I find it incredible that her campaign is this incompetent.

When will she show us she can properly run an organization? I haven't seen it yet.

Yes, she has been a resilient campaigner, but as a leader, she is very lacking.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:56 AM
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1. it wasn't an accident - and that's even worse
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:30 AM
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17. True. Nothing either Clinton says or does is by accident. nt
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:56 AM
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2. She has no management skills whatsoever. She's completely irresponsible.
Meanwhile she complains about being outspent on the ground, after she's blown all her money on consultants and suites at the Four Seasons. She shouldn't be let anywhere near the federal budget.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:04 AM
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10. She must have been tired
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:06 AM
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12. More accurately.. she has no honesty skills whatsoever
We've had 16 years of opaque government.
Enough is enough.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:27 AM
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13. I wonder if she'll get called out on this.
Is it kosher to accuse her of deliberately fudging the numbers? I hope someone in the MSM questions this.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:41 AM
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18. I would think the FEC would look into it
They don't care for fudged numbers much - I expect it's a violation of some sort, given the amount.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:49 AM
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24. And so obvious. What was she thinking?
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:28 PM
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36. Her campaign gives us a picture of what her administration would look like
Not a very nice picture.

Poor personnel choices, dishonesty, incompetence, secrecy, disliked by much of the public . . . it all sounds so familiar.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:57 AM
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3. Apparently so.
The Iraq war is off the books.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:58 AM
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4. Which only makes her similar to Bush and not something we here at DU want.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:05 AM
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11. no we don't want someone like that
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:02 AM
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6. Well, a shitload of money IS on the books, in fine-earmark-print, thanks to Hillary
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 10:28 AM by cryingshame
the war pig.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:01 AM
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5. hey did you forget Rev. Wright? isn't that what we talk about here?
looky looky - Rev. Wright over there.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:02 AM
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7. Yeah, the Rev. Wright distracts us from true fiscal irresponsibility and incompetence.
Hey, this is right out of the Bushie playbook!
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:03 AM
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9. Wright Who?
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:02 AM
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8. This is how she would run the White House
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Independent-Voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:29 AM
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14. No way - her supporters need to get a clue about this irresponsible shrew.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:29 AM
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15. When is she going to be responsible and pay her debts?
I have to pay mine.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:16 PM
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31. hahaha... I've long stopped expecting government to be responsible with their money.
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:30 AM
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16. there's NOTHING incompetent here. we know what this was. let's call it what it was. A LIE.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:41 AM
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19. Or who overstates the threat of Iraq?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:42 AM
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20. Or Iran...
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:42 AM
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22. Yep.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:42 AM
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21. Link pls?
what are you guys talking about?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:48 AM
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23. She left out her $5 million loan from her list of debts so her $10 million in debt is $15MM
Hillary Rodham Clinton amended her disclosure reports over the weekend to account for $5 million she loaned her presidential campaign in January. Though it was widely known the New York senator used the funds to help rally support for her White House bid during the early primaries, an accounting oversight left the information missing from reports filed at the Federal Election Commission.

The new disclosure brings her total debt to $15.3 million through March, compared to $662,784 for her Democratic opponent Illinois Sen. Barack Obama.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/cq/20080428/pl_cq_politics/politics2712598
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:53 AM
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25. Wow, THAT'S just now hitting the news?
Amazing, we DUers were all over that the minute her finances came out.

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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:02 AM
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26. She waited until the past weekend to refile with the FEC...
"The Clinton campaign announced the candidate's January self-funding loan in early February."

Looks like they have had faulty accounting since the February numbers.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:59 PM
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29. does that qualify as fuzzy math?!
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:04 PM
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27. kick
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:58 PM
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28. right after one that was a complete moron who didn't understand
the concept of debt
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:14 PM
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30. I was just speaking to a friend of mine who is a sound engineer
who has run sound for campaign rallies, concerts, etc and according to his colleagues he networks with all over the country, the Clinton campaign has stiffed their companies time and time again. Obama's campaign floats the debt for a couple of weeks, but it always ends up coming through. Clinton's campaign just flat doesn't pay.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:18 PM
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32. Hillary Clinton is all about secrecy and deceptiveness. It's being manifested in her campaign.
I can't even imagine what her presidency would be like; certainly would NOT be the transparency and full disclosure we so desperately need. More secrets, more lies.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:19 PM
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33. I tell you that $10 million in 24 hour thing is a hoax
that will come out too..

But not until after the four major primaries are over.
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Duder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:22 PM
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34. Nope...
Hillary Clinton Required to Testify in November to FEC Fraud!
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/04/breaking-news-hillary-clinton.php
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:25 PM
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35. She was obliterating things, don't you want a President who can obliterate debts
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 03:27 PM by kenny blankenship
by simply not acknowledging them? Think of how useful that would be in fixing our national finances.

Think of all the bothersome things we could just OBLITERATE with leadership like that!
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