If the race were Obama v. Edwards instead of Obama v. Clinton

[woolldog]

then one of them would have quit by now and accepted the VP position and the democrats would be a shoo in for November.

edit: Oh and race would NEVER have been injected into the campaign.

[LakeSamish706]

1. And in addition, I don't think it would have gotten ugly like it now is either. n/t

[endarkenment]

2. shoo in

[woolldog]

4. I'm pretty sure it's "shoe in"

[Occam Bandage]

10. You are incorrect, sir.

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-sho1.htm

[woolldog]

12. I stand corrected then. Thanks.

:yourock:

[Triana]

3. Yep. Obama and Edwards could keep their eye on the big picture and have SOME sense...

...of loyalty to the process, the party, and not of all - least to the country.

Hillary has loyalty to - only HERSELF. She increasingly looks like a madwoman, desperate, and silly.

[tritsofme]

5. Edwards can never again be the Democratic VP nominee

It would be the fourth campaign in as many years that he would have been apart of, and all the conflicting messages from each campaign further muddying his credibility.

The media would laugh him out of the room as the Dem's perennial VP candidate.

[Turn CO Blue]

45. Just stop it. How many times did Lincoln run for office and lose?

Failure to win does not equate to being a failure. I am so sick of the idiotic rhetoric on this board.

Lincoln was a failure until he was a winner. He lost his runs for public office EIGHT DIFFERENT TIMES!

List of Lincoln's failures
A common list of the failures of Abraham Lincoln (along with a few successes) is:

1831 - Lost his job
1832 - Defeated in run for Illinois State Legislature
1833 - Failed in business
1834 - Elected to Illinois State Legislature (success)
1835 - Sweetheart died
1836 - Had nervous breakdown
1838 - Defeated in run for Illinois House Speaker
1843 - Defeated in run for nomination for U.S. Congress
1846 - Elected to Congress (success)
1848 - Lost re-nomination
1849 - Rejected for land officer position
1854 - Defeated in run for U.S. Senate
1856 - Defeated in run for nomination for Vice President
1858 - Again defeated in run for U.S. Senate
1860 - Elected President (success)

[mrreowwr_kittty]

6. Oh, race would absolutely have been injected in the campaign. But not by Edwards.

The MSM and the GOP were saving it up for the general but Hillary did their footwork for them.

[woolldog]

8. that's what I meant.

I was speaking about the candidates' actions, not the media's or the GOP's.

[Eric Condon]

48. She does a lot of the GOP's foot work for them, doesn't she?

Not just in this campaign, either.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

49. Yes, she does. nt

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

7. The race was Obama vs. Edwards.

And Edwards dropped out when he was losing by far narrower margin than Clinton is losing by now.

[redqueen]

13. Instant headache.

Thanks.

x(

[Straight Shooter]

17. Edwards didn't "drop out." He was shoved out.

His demeanor during his "suspension" speech was way too weird for me to accept that it was entirely of his own volition to exit from the race.

[earth mom]

43. Oh hell yeah, Edwards was pushed out.

Corporate America hated him and the corporate media killed him off.

Meanwhile we get this cluster f*ck of an "historic" presidential race where both candidate are basically the same except for gender and race.

The rethuglicans are no doubt laughing their a$$es off.

:argh:

[krawhitham]

44. I think it had a little something to do with people NOT voting for him

[earth mom]

50. Edwards came in SECOND in Iowa. The corporate media ignored him

which had an impact on voters.

Then Edwards was pushed out before super Tuesday.

If politics were played honestly and fairly in this country, Edwards would have won.

[MonkeyFunk]

36. losing by a far narrower margin?:

He wasn't polling above 15% anywhere. He hadn't won a primary, and wasn't going to win any.

[newmajority]

9. An Obama Edwards unity ticket would probably be acceptable to most, if that's how it went.

I'm not suggesting John as VP now though. Only because I believe his mission of going after corporatism will be best accomplished if he's the Attorney General.

[Liberal Gramma]

15. Wow, he'd be a great AG

Good idea!

[Mags]

11. I think you could be right, I don't think that Edwards would ever

in his lifetime allow a supporter on Radio to call Hillary supporters white trash.

[woolldog]

14. Edwards would have about as much control over that as Obama does

i.e., none.

You're playing the association game to the extreme.

[Mags]

20. has BO tried to stop this? Please tell.

[woolldog]

28. Why should he?

Is he responsible for the words of comedians who have no connection to his campaign?

I guess Hillary is now responsible for everything stupid that Tina Fey might say about the 2008 campaign?

[nomorewhopper]

16. edwards, unlike hillary, dropped out and saved his dignity and reputation

[NNN0LHI]

18. If the Wright stuff had come out a year ago it would be Edwards v Clinton right now

To deny that is like denying gravity.

Don

[ChrisF66]

19. That makes no sense to me

For an abstracted 5 second comment that the candidate wasn't even present to hear, you feel he would be unsupportable?

A comment made by a US Marine Corps veteran?

Maybe I'm out of touch, but god damn america for leaving 1 in 8 of its people in poverty.

[amandabeech]

42. Actually, I saw 6 to 8 different clips on different topics.

I was down with the flu and flipping channels.

If you didn't see what Fox had, and I'm sorry that I did, you wouldn't have seen the entire Wright collection.

[Bensthename]

21. His poll numbers have increased with working white males after Wright then before..

So you can wish people were dumb enough to believe Wright and Obama share the same brain. But the PA primary did show he improved with all white males post the Wright bs.. So that theory does not hold to be true.

[johnnydrama]

23. but

the wright stuff did come out a year ago.

[MattBaggins]

25. If wishes were horses

[sandnsea]

51. It did come out a year ago

It was all over the place when Obama announced. Nobody cared until Hillary made it an issue.

[Bensthename]

22. Edwards has class.

[Emillereid]

24. And if there were still a race - I'm sure the two of them would stick to the issues.

[stillcool]

26. I wouldn't care who won...

And your are right..I'm sure that old wounds, would not have been ripped open for the sake of winning.

[PresidentObama]

27. Better yet, we should have just nominated Edwards n/t

[SaveAmerica]

29. I sincerely beieve this is how it would have been.

[AtomicKitten]

30. All of the other candidates knew when to get out and were gracious.

[JoFerret]

32. Yes...best to stand aside like a nice gentleman

and lose like Kerry and Gore.

[stevietheman]

33. That remark is asinine. Even the power-hungry dutifully drop out of the primary race...

when they can see they're not winning the nomination.

Why does Hillary think she gets to be the historical aberration?

[AtomicKitten]

34. Don't you DARE piss on Kerry and Gore -- STOLEN: Florida circa 2000 & Ohio circa 2004.

[JoFerret]

37. They did their best

and yes - both elections WERE stolen.

[ScarletSniper]

31. You're probably right. There's something not slimey about Edwards unlike the Clintons

[MadMaddie]

35. They may have agreed to run together!

Man that would have been one hell of a ticket.

That is still a possiblity if Barack wins the nomination.

[AtomicKitten]

38. I am completely cool with Edwards. He ran his campaign like a gentleman.

Edited because I have a bad habit of reading things from the bottom up and misunderstood. In the words of Emily Litella, never mind (what I wrote before) ...

[carolinayellowdog]

39. I think you misread #35

who would like to see an Obama/Edwards ticket, not an Obama/Clinton one

[AtomicKitten]

40. Doh!

thank you! :)

[bvar22]

41. I agree.

The Democratic Party would also be polling better against McCain.

[my3boyz]

46. Edwards is a better person than Hillary. He would have been

a tough competitor but he would have stuck to the issues. He doesn't go down in the gutter like that skank Hillary. I would be so happy if the two of them were still in instead. I would not even mind the fight continuing on because I know Edwards would NEVER, EVER do anything to ruin the Dems chances to win. He would always put the party before his political ambitions unlike Hillary.

[anonymous171]

47. Yep. If it was Edwards vs. Obama we would be having a battle over HC instead of flag pins.