Uncommited in Michigan went to Obama and Edwards. Edwards was still in the race.

[peoli]

Mi. Primary was January 15th. Edwards drops out January 30th.

Why is the Clinton campaign saying the uncommited were 'Obama's votes'?

[jsamuel]

1. is the Clinton campaign saying the uncommitted are Obama's votes?

they are probably 2/3 Obama 1/3 Edwards or so

[papau]

3. As I know the state it would be more likely 22 Edwards, 18 Obama, 5 other

[Yes We Did]

4. Well, we've already established that you...

like to have "fun" with the numbers and make b.s. comments on Obama's non-existent muslim heritage.

[MadBadger]

7. Well that's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

Then again, so was your Obama is a Muslim line.

[FlyingSquirrel]

8. ignored, don't know what they said

or who and I don't care either.

[cali]

14. no, that's more than dumb

it's uglier than dumb.

[BuyingThyme]

2. Team Obama reportedly encouraged people to vote "uncommitted," thus

stupid people think normal people are stupid enough to believe those are "Obama's votes."

[peoli]

12. It was actually supporters of Edwards and Obama, and the Michigan Democratic Party.

http://michiganforedwards.blogspot.com/2008/01/vote-uncommitted-letter-in-kalamazoo.html

They are tryin to make us somehow believe that it was the Obama team but it wasnt.

[Occam Bandage]

15. If it worked that way, I'd think they'd have no problem replacing the Nov. ballots with:

1. McCain.
2. (insert Green party candidate)
3. (insert Libertarian candidate)
4. (insert Constitution party candidate)
5. (insert nutjob)
6. (insert nutjob)
7. (insert nutjob)
8. (insert nutjob)
9. (insert nutjob)
10. (insert nutjob)
11. (insert nutjob)
12. (insert nutjob)
13. (insert nutjob)
14. (insert nutjob)
15. Uncommitted.



Actually, come to think of it, I'd think more than a few of them would indeed like to see that.

[Tom Rinaldo]

5. Because it is more generous to Obama today to allow him to claim

the votes that did not back Hillary as his. It makes their position seem more reasonable that way. They would happily accept that division.

[Avalon6]

6. Easy solution: Get Edwards to say that all of the uncommited voters belong to Obama

I think he would actually go along because it would solve the Michigan problem.

[FlyingSquirrel]

16. It wouldn't solve it at all.

People are stupid. When there's no other name on the ballot that they recognize, many of them will just choose the big name. Furthermore, many people stayed home in disgust -- knowing that their candidate would not be on the ballot.

The Michigan election was a sham, and giving Obama all the Uncommitted votes does not resolve the issue. However, it is the closest thing to a fair solution that exists at this point - short of a 50/50 split.

Since there was a 5% "other" vote, in reality Obama should probably get 45% of the delegates from Michigan since the others would not have gained 15% (assuming Edwards did make some kind of statement like that).

That would split the delegates 70-58 or 71-57 - a difference of 12 to 14. I'm sure Obama could weather that easily, but he wouldn't want to agree to it till he saw for sure that it wouldn't make a difference with Hillary planning on staying in till the bitter end.

[ieoeja]

18. I believe the others have instructed their delegates to vote for Obama.

So he'd get that 45%. Obama should take this deal if Hillary agrees.

But I doubt Hillary will agree. She wants her 55% with a chance to convince the uncommitted to swing over to her. And she knows Obama is being blamed every time a deal falls through, even when she has been the one to nix the deal.

[olkaz]

9. Because it fits their magical route to the Hillary coronation.

I'm expecting leap years and leprechauns to be involved in the new way we pick a nominee soon.

[tekisui]

10. Many Dems voted for Romney or stayed at home, too.

We have no idea who would have voted for whom if it had been legit.

[DefenseLawyer]

11. Why should we assume that ALL of the Clinton voters

would have voted for her if Obama or Edwards had been on the ballot? Surely there were some voters that liked Hillary just enough to vote for her over "non-committed" and DK but not enough to vote for her over Obama or Edwards. It is hard to say what the thought process of the voters would have been when they showed up to vote for down ticket races and thought the vote for president wasn't going to count.

[Occam Bandage]

13. Uncommitted in Michigan didn't go to anyone. Obama and Edwards were not on the ballot.

[FlyingSquirrel]

17. When people know their favored candidate won't be on the ballot

many will stay home.