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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:04 PM
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Just remember that the Republicans WANT Clinton to win the primary race...
...because they're convinced that McCain can wipe the floor with her on Election Day. That's their endgame. They want a war with Iran, and by God, they're gonna get one even if they have to sabotage the Democratic primary in order to get it.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:05 PM
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1. 527's with Monica, Vince Foster, etc.
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Taxmyth Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:06 PM
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2. That's funny
I really get the impression they want Senator Obama as the Party nominee. He doesn't draw a significant portion of over 50% of the Republican Party demographic the way she can.
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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:06 PM
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3. Agreed. /nt
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:46 PM
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16. Then why aren't they running negative ads against Hill in NC?
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:21 PM
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4. Funny - but the GOP folks I know want Obama to win -indeed they cross over & vote for him -or do you
think those GOP votes for Obama are his "expanding" the party?

If you do, I have a bridge to sell you.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:27 PM
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5. Most do. Obama's got coattails.
On MSNBC last night, Maddow was shilling for Obama and PAT BUCHANAN was shilling for Hillary. And he's not a good enough actor to fake it.

The GOP is probably hoping that they can beat either, and some of their support for Hillary is just an attempt to fuck with Obama as the eventual nominee. But I think they want Clinton to be the nominee because she will bring the rabid right out, she won't get the astronomical African American turnout that Obama will, and they'll have to work harder not to lose more seats in the House and Senate.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:27 PM
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6. Scarborough and Buchanan are drooling at the prospect
They're doing backflips for Hillary.. it would be funny if it wasn't so disgusting
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:28 PM
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7. And up is down
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jconner27 Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:29 PM
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8. Right
Obama has won 13 GOP states vs Clinton's four GOP states
I have first hand account of the GOP helping the Obama team in Miss.
the media that help Bush and GOP win election is all of the sudden think the world of Sen.Obama.

The Republicans want your guy because they know he has a glass jaw and beating him will be fairly easy because his record is paper thin, they know he is the most liberal senator which the zombies like to go after, his ties to questionable people man non stop Rev.Wright and weather underground ads, his supporters are cult like and they know Obama can't win big DEMOCRATIC states.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:33 PM
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10. Blah blah blah...
Thanks to your girl and her slime tactics, Obama's jaw will be nice and firmed up for the GE. Hillary, on the other hand, will have to drag the dead weight of her husband's embarrassments with her along with her own 60% unfavorability rating.
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jconner27 Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:50 PM
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19. This why Obama supporters suck so much ass
Look at the facts, when he has the chance to beat Hillary in a big Democratic state he can't do it, and if you think what Hillary is doing to him is slime then you confirmed to me you Obama supporters have your heads up your ass since your false prophet joined the race. The Republicans will have a good ole time beating your guy because he has all bark and no bite meaning he has no substance I keep asking you name at least five things that makes him better then Hillary and most of you can't do it without attacking her personally. 12 year old boys can explain why they prefer a Playstation 3 over a XBOX 360 better then most Obama supporters explain why they support Obama. Look at Bob Casey endorsement speech he kept repeating the same over and over again that bull shit hope and change it had no substance, nothing but talking points. Look at Crow's endorsement more empty bull shit. The Republicans will feast on him because Obama has a glass jaw, he has no substance or Obama can't use the Republican playbook against McCain like he's doing with Clinton because they wrote the book.

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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 04:50 PM
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35. Er, hello? Obama beat Clinton in the Texas caucuses...
Clinton won the primary down here, true, but Obama managed to win the caucuses. People across America may curse the "Texas Two-Step," but there you go.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:31 PM
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9. And that's why so many of them are doing the "Democrat for a Day" thing
and voting for Clinton.

Oh, wait, they've been doing that for Obama. And the Obama campaign has been helping them change their registration.

Never mind.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:48 PM
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18. That was ONE isolated incident. "Operation Chaos" is not.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:34 PM
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11. yep.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:37 PM
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12. The republicans defend her and call her the tougher canidate.
They are esentially trying to pick our nominee. Too bad the Gop failed.
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jconner27 Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:59 PM
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26. Again
Barack Obama GOP states won: 13. Hillary Clinton GOP states she won: 4
yeah the Repugs trying to help Hillary.


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gsaguyCLW54 Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:38 PM
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13. thing is, they are wrong. They think Obama is going to be harder to beat and they are wrong
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:47 PM
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17. Let's see: He has more money, way better ground game, and has a huge voter base.
Totally easy to beat.
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jconner27 Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:53 PM
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21. Yet he can't win big Dem states
The Republicans have the media so that cancel out money and ground game. The Republicans don't mess around with people so that also trumps money. Voting base lets see 13 states that will go to McCain. Sure he can win if you wipe those factors out.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:55 PM
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22. Yeah, but he won't need the big blue states
when he wins Wyoming, Idaho, and Utah! :crazy:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:55 PM
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23. Clinton only wins those states because
she can use the party machinery that will be Obama's in the GE.
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jconner27 Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:57 PM
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24. According to you
Boy I'm glad I didn't drink the kool aid.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:59 PM
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25. Rendell himself said Obama could win PA in the GE.
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jconner27 Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:06 PM
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27. Good lord you Obama followers are a loopy sort
What you think he's going to say? Hell no, he can't win. Even if Obama wins the nomination he doesn't want the GOP use his comments against the Democrat in that state.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:06 PM
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28. Something is wrong with you.
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jconner27 Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:11 PM
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31. Get bent
I don't support Obama, I don't believe in him and I don't see the hype about him.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:10 PM
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29. He can't even win in big democratic states
What makes you think he's the best candidate against McCain?
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:10 PM
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30. McCain can't win big democratic states either.
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jconner27 Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:29 PM
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32. He doesn't need to
The Republicans know he won't get the Dem states, but MI and PA and FLA they can end the game with either of these to go along with the 13 states your guy won. And Michigan knows depsite his flunkies here say we know he doesn't want our vote to count.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:39 PM
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14. I'm beginning to feel like they'd get one with either McCain or Hillary
war with Iran, that is
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:41 PM
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15. Damn right!
I have been listening to all the republicans on TV today praising Hillary like she is the second coming of Christ! All the cable shows who have guest panels with republicans are discussing her so called "come back" last night. They all way she should stay in an win.

The fact is they love the war that is going on, and ever Rush Limbaugh admits to that, and his hand in causing the mess the party is in now!
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:52 PM
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20. Nobody knows what the Republicans "want". Cut out this divisive shit.
Obama had more cross over voters than Clinton in PA. Both candidates have their right wing supporters. Neither candidate is particularly difficult to beat or game.

How do you know that Republicans don't "want" you to continue throwing around this divisive shit so that we lose the general?
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jconner27 Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:51 PM
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33. Actions
The shit being thrown here is you and the other members of the Obama cult. If I was a Republican I would want the easier person and guess what read your guy is the easiest to beat, he hasn't said one thing that had substance, he has thin skin, he's weak, and his ties to people like Rev.Wright play right in the hands of the Republicans because they know people don't research things the context they will go to McCain for that alone.

And Read and the other Obama followers please do me a favor end this false cry of unity because when Obamaites mean unity its shut up and follow our guy without question. It's never about unity to Obama supporters its we want our guy and if Hillary wins we're going to leave you guys hanging.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 04:54 PM
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36. What you mean "we?"
I'd rather have Hillary Clinton in the White House instead of John McCain.

Then again, I'd rather have Obama in there instead of the other two.

We need a Democratic President. Eyes on the prize.
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jconner27 Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:28 PM
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Cut the crap
You want your guy and nobody else.. Me on the other hand won't tag along with you on the quick path of defeat. There is no prize with Obama only a white flag to the Republicans
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jconner27 Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:28 PM
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37. Cut the crap
You want your guy and nobody else.. Me on the other hand won't tag along with you on the quick path of defeat. There is no prize with Obama only a white flag to the Republicans
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:52 PM
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34. Rush
Said he wants Obama 'bloodied', right?

Just like the media, they want both candidates bruised badly. Only way McBush stands a chance.

One dem candidate is especially dangerous because he has the ability to siphon votes away from them.

They want the horcerace, so Obama can't start with the counter-ads nationwide. Keep him tied up with the Clintons.

Smart play.

Still won't work.

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