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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:52 PM
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I support Obama because...
I am listening to him speak in Indiana and in the course of a few minutes he said that there will be extensive review of Bush's executive orders for constitutional and civil liberties violations with the intent to overturn any that have violations.

And then he just spoke about the very real concerns of election fraud, lack of a paper trail,machines and maybe switching to elections by mail like Oregon.

Was I swept away by fancy speaking? Though he said it well of course it's always about what he says. Some people say he doesn't talk about what he will do. You bet he does. These are just two of them that really matter to me.

I don't support him in reaction to who I do not support. I want him to be president based on what he says and how I believe him to be. And I can't wait until he is the nominee. The more people hear him the more they agree.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:54 PM
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1. The people who say he doesn't talk about what he will do
Don't listen to him.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:55 PM
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2. He had me at habeas corpus.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:59 PM
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3. do you have list of bills he's sponsored in Congress
where he's attempted to address any of these issues in Congress?
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:22 PM
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4. No I haven't looked.
I'm responding to what he has said during his campaign. There's no guarantee that he will do this but at least he is talking about topics in meaningful ways that I agree with. A Senator can't overturn executive orders.

Do you have any quotes from Senator Clinton where she is against the Patriot act, expresses intentions to overturn executive orders or prosecute criminalities? Any mention of election fraud and paper trails? Cause all we can do is compare what they are saying they will do.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:30 PM
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5. Yes.

OBAMA'S US SENATE RECORD:

S.1975 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.

Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (introduced 11/8/2005)
Cosponsors (4)
Committees: Senate Rules and Administration
Latest Major Action: 11/8/2005 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Rules and Administration.

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S.4102 : A bill to amend the Communications Act of 1934 to prohibit the use of telecommunications devices for the purposes of preventing or obstructing the broadcast or exchange of election-related information.

Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (introduced 12/7/2006) Cosponsors (None) Committees: Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation
Latest Major Action: 12/7/2006 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation.
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S.4069 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.

Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (introduced 11/16/2006) Cosponsors (4)
Committees: Senate Rules and Administration
Latest Major Action: 11/16/2006 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Rules and Administration.
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Obama's Rewards

13,000 a year, plus $2,000 for a car--a beat-up blue Honda Civic, which Obama drove for the next three years organizing more than twenty congregations to change their neighborhoods.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070416/moberg






Obama's organizing history may give few clues about what policies he would pursue as President, but Obama the presidential candidate still shows his roots--a faith in ordinary citizens, a quest for common ground and a pragmatic inclination toward defining issues in winnable ways.

Even when Obama was an organizer, Augustine-Herron told him he would be the nation's first black President. Now the Rev. Alvin Love, whom Obama recruited to DCP, looks at his candidacy and says, "Everything I see reflects that community organizing experience. I see the consensus-building, his connection to people and listening to their needs and trying to find common ground. I think at his heart Barack is a community organizer. I think what he's doing now is that. It's just a larger community to be organized."
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070416/moberg


What Obama has done in the past, not including what he has done thus far during the primaries; bringing new voters into the frey.


Vote of Confidence
A huge black turnout in November 1992 altered Chicago's electoral landscape—and raised a new political star: a 31-year-old lawyer named Barack Obama.

In the final, climactic buildup to November's general election, with George Bush gaining ground on Bill Clinton in Illinois and the once-unstoppable campaign of senatorial candidate Carol Moseley Braun embroiled in allegations about her mother's Medicare liability, one of the most important local stories managed to go virtually unreported: The number of new voter registrations before the election hit an all-time high. And the majority of those new voters were black. More than 150,000 new African-American voters were added to the city's rolls. In fact, for the first time in Chicago's history-including the heyday of Harold Washington-voter registrations in the 19 predominantly black wards outnumbered those in the city's 19 predominantly white ethnic wards, 676,000 to 526,000.

None of this, of course, was accidental. The most effective minority voter registration drive in memory was the result of careful handiwork by Project Vote!, the local chapter of a not-for-profit national organization.

"It was the most efficient campaign I have seen in my 20 years in politics," says Sam Burrell, alderman of the West Side's 29th Ward and a veteran of many registration drives.

At the head of this effort was a little-known 31-year-old African-American lawyer, community organizer, and writer: Barack Obama.

To understand the full implications of Obama's effort, you first need to understand how voter registration often has worked in Chicago. The Regular Democratic Party spearheaded most drives, doing so using one primary motivator: money. The party would offer bounties to registrars for every new voter they signed up (typically a dollar per registration).

The campaigns did produce new voters. "But bounty systems don't really promote participation," says David Orr, the Cook County clerk, whose office is responsible for voter registration efforts in the Cook County suburbs. "When the money dries up, the voters drop out." Nor did the Democratic Party always vigorously push registration among minorities, Orr says. "It's not that they discouraged it. They just never worked hard to ensure it would happen."
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/January-1993/Vote-of-Confidence

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Project Vote is the voter-mobilization arm of ACORN. It is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization whose professed purpose is to carry out "non-partisan" voter registration drives; to counsel voters on their rights; and to litigate on behalf of voting rights -- focusing on the rights of the poor and the "disenfranchised."
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:38 PM
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6. Well there you go
Thanks Frenchie. Not surprising. I hope that there isn't too much fraud to prevent him from getting to the WH to actually help change things. I realize that there's only so much he can say on the campaign trail. He has to say, "Let's examine and investigate and I will respond appropriately when necessary." He can't say, "Impeach the War Criminals!" and not have the media derail him. Baby steps. I also like that he acknowledges that Gore actually won as opposed to saying that he "lost" as a result of appearing "elitist".
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