Democrats Divided? Mccain loses 1/4 of GOP votes ACROSS Pennsylvania

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

Now I realize there are some high emotions running through the Democratic primaries right now. I do believe that the entire proportional rather than winner-take-all primary process is flawed in the Democratic party and I can only hope that the process gets an overhaul. No matter which Democratic Presidential candidate wins the nomination, I will vote for him/her in November.

However, in the "already settled" GOP primary, I found it very interesting that John McCain consistently lost 25% of the Republican primary votes in Pennsylvania yesterday. THIS should be a news story!!!

Here's the overall PA Repub total and I also posted the CNN link for county by county map:


Statewide County Returns: Republican
State Totals
99% precincts reporting
Candidate Vote %
McCain 585,447 73%
Huckabee 91,211 11%
Paul 128,188 16%

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/county/#PAREPMAPprimary


The GOP primary process already selected McCain by delegate count and yet he still loses 1/4 of the primary votes in an April primary?!?!?!?
Doesn't this reveal something about the contentment in the GOP?

[anonymous171]

1. This is why we need Obama.

[NJmaverick]

3. Yup Hillary would rally the repukes behind McCain

Obama wouldn't do that

[anonymous171]

4. I agree.

Conservatives HATE McCain and would never vote FOR him. But they will vote AGAINST Hillary. In droves.

[Carrieyazel]

9. Obama only has 70% of Democrats behind him in a potential general

against McCain. McCain has 83% or so of Republicans according to Rasmussen numbers. While there is still some shoring up that McCain needs to do in the weeks ahead, Obama has a bigger challenge. Plus, he's still worrying about Hillary.

[anonymous171]

10. You're forgetting about repug crossovers and independants.

[roguevalley]

22. next time someone moons about how McCain will win, slap them.

:)

[invictus]

23. Exactly! Obama has broad cross-party appeal. He can win! Hillary has too many negatives. n/t

[JVS]

2. To use an analogy: you're the guy with stomach cancer pointing to the guy in the next bed's ulcer.

McCain supporters have very little incentive to come out and vote. He'd already won
The GOP primary was among their activists. They'e in fine shape. Much better off than we are.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

6. My husband's 90 year old Republican Grandmother will vote Dem this year

Because she detests McCain. (and no, she does NOT hate the Clintons or Obama)

Ya, I know it's anecdotal but I believe we underestimate the animosity towards McCain in the GOP.

[JVS]

12. Wait until the smear, fear, and hate machine is turned on.

Especially with clinton as the nominee. The GOPers will be playing nostalgic "Greatest political hits of the 1990's" videos on fox all day

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

15. But she isn't and never was a mindless Clinton hater

She likes both of the Dem choices more than McCain.

There are degrees of Republicans and, I agree that there are sheeple Repubs who will NEVER consider any Dem and there are talk-radio robots who will get sucked into Clinton bashing but not all.

Anyway, just thought I'd try to share some bright points for the Dems.

[JVS]

19. Like I said. Stomach cancer vs. ulcer

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

20. I still don't believe it's fatal.

[Carrieyazel]

5. No, it reveals that Huckabee and Paul have strong support

among different factions of the Repubes, even though they both lost the nom to McCain.
And they ran good campaigns. Many of these voters wanted to make a statement, and most will go to McCain in the fall because they aren't voting Democratic.

[kmsarvis]

11. But 25% ?

That's a big statement .

[Carrieyazel]

13. There could be more anti-war GOP voters in PA, and there's always that evangelical base

that still likes Huckabee, even though he's out.
But yes, 25% not voting for McCain is a sizable percentage, you're right about that.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

14. That was the point I was trying to make with this thread: 25%

Seems more like a protest vote against McCain than a rabid group of supporters across the state. :shrug:

[backscatter712]

7. HAH!!! We don't even need an Operation Chaos to see the Republicans tear themselves apart!

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

18. Bingo! Nobody will convince me McCain is a loved nominee. nt

[goletian]

8. once obama gets it, we gotta do something, people:

most ron paul supporters like him for his stance on iraq and foreign policy. the candidate that most resembles this is obama (even though hes not an isolationist like ron paul). we need to educate the ron paul fans on why hes a bad choice so they dont do something stupid and idealist like write his name in, in protest.

most of them have no idea how bigoted this man is. hes against science, wants to sign his definition of when life starts into law, doesnt believe in evolution, was against repealing anti sodomy law in texas, was against civil rights act in the 60s, is against gay marriage, wants states rights to decide(states rights is the buzzword used to call forth all racists and bigots in general). im guessing at least 1-2 percent of voters will be ron paul fanatics who will vote for him no matter who is on the ballot, and dont know anything about him other than hes anti war and anti irs.

[marlakay]

16. its a wash with the 25% who keep saying they (dems)

will vote for mccain if their person doesn't win. i guess we need to do some major commercials about the war, economy & mostly the supreme court to remind those folks what we are up against saying that.

I had thought about it too if my person (obama) doesn't win but it would be 7/2 for the republicans in the supreme court if they get 2 more. just think what that would do to our country. as much as i despise the clintons these days, their picks for the court weren't bad.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

17. Not just the Supreme Court but watch the wingnut McCain picks for VP

My guess is McCain will have to pick a total RW nutjob as VP to satisfy the fundies.

With McCain's age and history of melanoma think how damn close that VP slot is to the TOP?!?!?!?!? :scared:

[uponit7771]

21. I KEEP MAKING THIS POINT!! People are distracted by bright and shiny things!! 320,000 NEW dem voters

...and Weather Vane MoreWar McSame still can't beat EITHER one of them by double digits in ALL national polls.

[nichomachus]

24. Don't read too much into this

Because there's no contest in the GOP, voters feel free to "make a statement" with their vote.

It's the same as if there were no longer a contest in the Democratic race. You'd see a lot of people writing in Dennis or John Edwards, rather than voting for the future nominee.

This has no bearing on how people will vote in the GE.

[uponit7771]

25. The thing that backs this up is McSame can't double digit EITHER ONE OF THEM in national polls even

...WITH them beating up on each other.

[nichomachus]

26. Don't read too much into that either

This is April -- the election is in November.

In politics, a week is an eternity. A lot can happen between now and November. Do you really think Karl Rove is home doing needlepoint?

You can be sure the GOP will "roll out a new product" right after Labor Day. You can be sure that the Swift Boat groups are ready to roll as soon as the Democratic convention ends -- or someone drops out. And you can be sure that there will be a terror-related October Surprise. McVeigh, I mean McCain, has to run on terror. He's got nothing else. They will come up with something.