hillary clinton was born in chicago.

[DesertFlower]

how did she convince pennsylvanian's that she was born there?



Hillary Rodham was born in Chicago, Illinois on October 26, 1947 and grew up in Park Ridge. She is the daughter of Dorothy Rodham and the late Hugh Rodham. Her father had a drapery-making company in Illinois while her mother was a homemaker. During her youth Hillary Rodham was interested in different kinds of sports and also a Girl Scout and member of the local Methodist youth group. She was also already interested in politics. She has two younger brothers; Hugh and Tony.

After graduating from a public school in Park Ridge, Rodham Clinton attended Wellesley College. For a time she served as President of the College Republicans. Encouraged by Professor Alan Schechter, Hillary Rodham attended the Wellesley in Washington program and before long she became a dedicated Democrat. She wrote her thesis on leftist organizer Saul Alinsky. In 1969 Hillary Rodham earned her bachelor's degree in Political Science and graduated with honours. She was the first student ever at Wellesley College to be asked to hold the commencement speech at graduation day. When Hillary Rodham was 22 years old she entered Yale Law School where she in addition to her studies served on the Board of Editors of the Yale Review of Law and Social Action. It was at Yale she met her future husband, Bill Clinton, who was also a Yale student at the time.

snip

http://www.hillary-rodham-clinton.org/life.html


another lie.

[yardwork]

1. Dunno. How did she convince New Yorkers that she is one of them?

This woman has more "home states" than I've ever seen.

[DesertFlower]

3. unbelievable. nt

[ovidsen]

53. Remember RFK?

I'm not comparing the late Robert Kennedy to Senator Hillary Clinton in any way... except to note that both of them moved from another state to New York, where they were elected to the US Senate, a platform from which they launched their White House campaigns.

So it's been done before, it's perfectly legal, and by all accounts both Mr. Kennedy and Mrs. Clinton won the majority of votes in the Empire State fair and square. In other words, I don't consider this an issue now any more than I did in 1968.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

2. she's ubiquitous

emphasis on the 'quit'

[DesertFlower]

4. she's speaking now and my

husband is yelling "shut up".

[AZBlue]

6. I can't listen to her anymore.

She's like Bush to me - I just change the channel reflexively.

[DesertFlower]

10. imagine listening to that voice

for 8 years. OMG. :puke:

[AZBlue]

21. I'd be looking into moving overseas.

And I'm not joking.

[LiberalFighter]

5. When did she say she was born in PA?

Nothing in your post states it.

Only thing I heard was something about her grandparents being from that area.

[DesertFlower]

8. she kept telling the people in pennsylvania

that she was a "pennsylvania girl".

[rodeodance]

14. Her father is buried in PA--they had a cottage there. Stop acting like an idiot.

[DesertFlower]

17. and my father is buried in

florida.

shouldn't you be off somewhere celebrating? of course, you didn't get your double digits, did you?

[mountainvue]

40. 10 is a double digit. n/t

[quakerboy]

47. at 98%

the state website has it 45.7/54.3. Shorthand 46/54. Or, specifically, 8.6% lead. round it to 9. Not double digit. Granted, still 1.5% to be counted.

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=13&ElectionID=27&OfficeID=1

Edited to add, most of the remaining outstanding seems to be in Chester, which seems to favor Obama.

[mountainvue]

64. Still 10% with 99.4 of reporting. n/t

[OhioChick]

7. Didn't she say she was from OH, as well?? n/t

[DesertFlower]

9. god only knows.

she lies so much. how can we trust her to run our country?

[SoCalDem]

30. Y'heard of "Every-woman"? She's "Everywhere-woman"

:)

[jillan]

11. She said her DAD was born in PA.....

Clean the earwax out, okay?

[DesertFlower]

13. she kept referring to herself as

a pennsylvania girl. she misspoke again.

[earthlover]

23. she's a lying girl....a girl who will say anything....a girl who will do anything to win

[rodeodance]

24. OP is lying---as she/he has provided NO evidence.

[DesertFlower]

32. okay rodeodance. here it is.

In final push in Pa., Clinton puts emphasis on local roots

She was something much more elemental: the hometown gal.

Making her final campaign swing across the state, Clinton rested her fate in today's primary on the working-class voters who have been the bedrock of her campaign, believing her cultural affinity with them and tangible promises for a better future will earn their support at the polls.

Clinton came out on stage at the Scranton Cultural Center to John Mellencamp's "Small Town."

Clinton was not actually born here, but she cast herself as the next best thing, noting her grandfather's toils in the Scranton lace industry, childhood vacations at nearby Lake Winola, and marination in the "common-sense values" of middle America.

snip


http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/04/22/in_final_push_in_pa_clinton_puts_emphasis_on_local_roots/

[spooky3]

33. That does NOT support your assertion.

"Clinton was not actually born here, but she cast herself as the next best thing, noting her grandfather's toils in the Scranton lace industry, childhood vacations at nearby Lake Winola, and marination in the "common-sense values" of middle America."

She is providing factually verifiable information. Unless you are ready to provide evidence that her grandfather did NOT toil in the Scranton lace industry, didn't vacation, etc. - and that her dad did NOT play for Penn State, then your claim is baseless and nothing Clinton said is untrue. If Obama had these facts on his side he would have played them exactly the same way. Evidence: Kansas, where he frequently reminded people his mother was from there.

[DesertFlower]

35. i'm not saying that her grandfather didn't work there

or that her dad went to school there. i can't find a direct link, and i'm not going to waste time looking for it, but she referred to herself as a pennsylvania girl.

now i don't know about you guys, but i've had enough for tonight. pennsylvania is over and we obama supporters look forward to indiana and north carolina.


on edit: She was something much more elemental: the hometown gal.

snip

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/04/22/in_final_push_in_pa_clinton_puts_emphasis_on_local_roots/

[Yossariant]

37. You lied whan you said "how did she convince pennsylvanian's that she was born there?"

I'll bet that you have "had enough for tonight" now that you're caught.

:puke:

TYPICAL.

:puke:

[Yossariant]

34. Appears a mass reading comprehension program is in order for Obama fans.

:wtf:

[DemBones DemBones]

58. Yep, and next time Oblama runs for national office, maybe he

should get somebody to coach him so those "hard questions" won't throw him off.

How come a graduate of Harvard Law couldn't field a few questions about issues any presidential candidate should be informed about?

[rodeodance]

45. you called her a lier and you lied.

[DesertFlower]

57. no reason for me to lie.

i'm not running for office.

okay this is it. i'm going to bed. you want to keep this up -- go ahead. we're getting nowhere fast.

[October]

54. More proof

<snip>

When Mrs. Clinton comes to Pennsylvania on Monday, her first visit to the state after winning Ohio and Texas last week, her first stop will be Scranton, where her familial ties extend deeper than they do in Park Ridge, Ill., the Chicago suburb where she grew up. Look for the image shapers to link the values of this gritty region — where her grandfather, descended from Welsh coal miners, raised his family — to her character and especially her perseverance.

“She’s tough,” Christopher Doherty, Scranton’s mayor, said in an interview. “That’s a real Scranton trait. That’s an anthracite trait.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/us/politics/10scranton.html


There's even a home movie, made by a neighbor posted on that site in which Hillary was 3 1/2 years of age. Plus, Hillary's father played football for Penn State. 'nough said.

LOL!

Barack was born in Hawaii and raised in Indonesia. He's a senator from Illinois.

This is just silly.

[DesertFlower]

61. here's another thread about it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5631339

[rodeodance]

25. Where is you LINK/evidence???

[October]

41. She spent summers there

The house still stands near Scranton, PA.

I grew up in one state, and summered in a neighboring state all my life. My heart is fond of both.


Wasn't Obama born in Hawaii? Should he denounce that state because he decided he'd prefers Illinois, politically?

[Name removed]

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[FlyingSquirrel]

15. We'll be hearing childhood stories about visits to her Great-Aunt in Indiana soon.

[DesertFlower]

19. i wouldn't be surprised.

:toast:

[lutefisk]

22. People say she won the Indy 500 in her younger days...n/t

:shrug:

[FlyingSquirrel]

31. I heard she made it look like a Roman chariot race.

;)

[rodeodance]

42. YOUR crystal ball is broke.

[rodeodance]

16. ******PURPOSEFUL FLAMEBAIT. TAKE IT DOWN BEFORE YOU LOOK MORE FOOLISH***

"how did she convince pennsylvanian's that she was born there?"

[EFerrari]

18. What does this mean:

"She was the first student ever at Wellesley College to be asked to hold the commencement speech at graduation day."

[rodeodance]

20. "another lie" NO, it is YOU that is LYING!!

[DesertFlower]

59. rodeodance. do you know any other words?

all i hear from you is "you lied". the OP is lying.

[donheld]

26. She was born in the wagon of a travelin' show

her mama used to dance for the money they'd throw,
papa would do what ever he could
preach a little gospel, sell a
couple of bottles of Dr feelgood...

:evilgrin:

[DesertFlower]

29. the new hillary theme song. nt

[SoCalDem]

27. You got it all wrong.. She's a Scranton girl..grew up huntin' varmints

behind the cabin..learned to read by candlelight..didn;t have shoes until she was 11.. poor little darlin'...

[DesertFlower]

28. lol.

:toast:

[question everything]

36. Talk about sour grapes

why can't you accept the fact like a man?

No, she never told PA that she was from there, only that her grandfather lived in Scranton. But, I suppose, it is too much for you to handle the truth.

The more you guys are in denial, the harder you will fall.

Certainly showing roots in PA is preferable to a rootless rookie like Obama for many families in PA who can trace their ancestry several generations back.

[DesertFlower]

43. because i'm a woman.

WTF does having roots have to do with being a good president?

[question everything]

60. For many voters it does. Same as whether s/he is a church goer

love this country and, yes, wear a flag pin and puts his hand on his heart while the national anthem is being played.

Yes, for most of us there are trivia that mask the real issues. But for many voters, these issues are important. Obama was born in Hawaii to a bi-racial and bi-national couple, was raised for a while in Indonesia, almost arbitrarily selected Chicago for his adult life. These things should not matter but they do, for many voters. Why, do you think, do the weekly news magazines come with cover story about the life of the major candidates? And TIME last week had it about Obama's mother?

[DemBones DemBones]

62. But because BHO lived in Indonesia & visited Pakistan, he knows everything about

foreign affairs, far more than Clinton or McCain. :sarcasm:

BHO "forgot" to mention his visits to Kenya, where he has a bunch of family, which can probably be traced back for generations.

Do you suppose that's because we taxpayers paid for Obama's most recent trip and on that trip he spoke at rallies for his cousin Raila Odinga, who was running for president?

Or maybe it was because the U.S. State Department called Obama on the carpet as it was highly inappropriate for a U.S. Senator to go to another country and speak against its government, which is what Obama did. He also dressed up like a Somali elder on that trip, which was all Hillary Clinton's fault, somehow.

Or maybe it's because Raila Odinga lost the election in December and he and his supporters attempted a coup. Last I heard, over 700 people had been killed.

Or maybe Obama just doesn't want to draw attention to all the Muslim family he has in Kenya.

[October]

38. Obama was born in Hawaii.

This is silly.

Should he have stayed only in Honolulu?

[DemBones DemBones]

63. Yet represents Illinois. And has a grandmother in Kansas. How can this be?

Yes, it is VERY silly. Obots will look for anything to try to discredit Clinton but ignore their man's many flaws and lies.

[anonymous171]

39. Because she is a LIAR.

[Yossariant]

49. The OP lied. Duh!

Ya might try reading the thread. I'm series!!!!111!!!

:think:

[LTR]

44. She was born everywhere

And she is everything to everyone. Hell, she carpetbagged a New York senate seat by convincing a bunch of suckers that she's a Jewish Yankees fan!

Anyone care to guess where her North Carolina birthplace is?

Oh, and she lost in her real birth state.

[NeedleCast]

46. She's Also From New York and Arkansas

Clones?

[DesertFlower]

48. chris matthews said

"how many zip codes has she lived in"?

[NeedleCast]

50. She probably just selects "All"

when she's filling out paperwork that requires zip codes. Easier than list them all.

[NeedleCast]

51. Dupage

Dupe delete...silly cookies.

[cooolandrew]

52. I heard her say she was born in illinois but raised in Penn. Although I don't recall that in her bio

true.

[DesertFlower]

56. she wanted the pennsylvania voters to think

she was one of them.

she lies. just like the sniper fire. then she says she misspoke and laughs. we're supposed to forget that she lied. then last week during the debate she admitted that she lied.

does anyone believe that she really went duck hunting?

[DemBones DemBones]

55. Her grandfather was from PA, worked in a mill, and her father is buried there,

presumably near his parents.

People often have grandparents in other states and go to visit them, think of their grandparents' homes as other homes. I did.