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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:26 PM
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I am the guy that told all of you that Obama was winning in MO when the networks called for Clinton
and I can tell you that this is not over. Big Obama counties still out and the remaining precincts in Philly may go huge to Obama. This is not over...
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:28 PM
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1. Permettez-moi
to be the first to recommend!
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:29 PM
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2. It's getting much closer, who knows.
I'm seeing it narrow to 53% Clinton, 47% Obama. I predicted it would be 52.5% Clinton, 47.5% Obama. Here's hoping it's close to that.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:30 PM
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3. Rec 5
From your keyboard...
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nerddem Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:30 PM
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4. i'd like to be optimistic,
but there's already 45% of philadelphia county in, and he's got 57% of that
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:31 PM
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9. Which precincts are in?
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:33 PM
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15. West Philly was a clusterfuck this morning.
Lots of provisional ballots to count.
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nerddem Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:39 PM
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27. our drexel precinct had
about 450 votes total, out of about 1600 regs (895 dems), but several hundred i'm sure don't live here, so the likelies are actually probably closer to 1100ish
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:39 PM
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29. Now 59% for Obama in Philly, 51% in, again what is outstanding? University city?
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 09:34 PM
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56. *IF* they're counted. n/t
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:31 PM
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10. And he need about 85% to even be competitive.
Go figure.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:32 PM
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12. It isn't about the city
Wait for the suburbs to come in.

:thumbsup:
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:34 PM
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18. None in yet! 3% from bucks, thats it
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:35 PM
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24. Bucks, Montgomery, Chester, Delaware, Lancaster -- those are the ones to wait for
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 08:36 PM by Yael
Those are the "commuter" counties.
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nerddem Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:35 PM
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25. now at 61% in, but still at 58 nt
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:30 PM
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5. Zero votes in from Philly burbs and nothing from Pitt, 1% in from Dauphin, Penn state area 2% in
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:30 PM
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6. Interesting... Philadelphia County is inching towards 60% Obama w/ 44% reporting.
No Montgomery County. 0% reporting in Allegheny County. I still think Clinton has it, but it may be closer than current numbers indicate.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:55 PM
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46. Where are you watching those details?
NYT hasn't updated since 9:23... getting frustrating!
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Secret_Society Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:31 PM
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7. Come on
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:31 PM
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8. It is about a 7 to 9 point spread, about what the polls said
That is darn good since he Obama was behind so much, and Clinton needed to win by at least 20 points


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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:32 PM
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13. The state of PA says the margin is less than that...
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 08:34 PM by ingac70
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:34 PM
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19. wow, CNN results are sure different /nt
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:31 PM
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11. I'll kick it, but I wish I could believe it more...
when did they call MO? How early?
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DianaForRussFeingold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:33 PM
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14. K&R
:popcorn:
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:33 PM
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16. Pass me some of that, will ya?
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:36 PM
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26. Add some butter and salt to mine, please... n/t
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:33 PM
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17. I appreciated what you had to say in MO. Do you know PA equally well?
I remember what you had to say that night, and it seemed like you knew MO really well. When I looked at your profile I realized you live there.

Do you have an equally good grasp of the PA demographics?

I hope you do!!!

:hi:


Laura
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:35 PM
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22. I don't but calling it this early is just nuts
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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:35 PM
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20. Clinton 51.2% Obama 48.8% - 19.34% reporting - rec
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Zech Marquis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:39 PM
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28. still too early to call (for me at least)
right now cnn has only 20 percent of the voting precints in, why did the news networks jump the gun early??? And it's not like it's a blowout either...
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:35 PM
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21. I just posted about this...
...because Obama does very well in urban areas and in the cities with college towns. Those
numbers will come in last. That's exactly what happened in Texas.

I just asked the question about the Philadelphia area. I heard this week, that 40 percent of all
of the votes from PA, will come from Phily and the surrounding 'burbs and towns. I also heard
that this area is of the state breaks heavily for Obama. This is where he galvanized that crowd
of 35,000 the other night.

I agree, it's far from over. The larger cities will favor him--and those results always come in last.

She's ahead by only 6 now! 8:35 cst
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:40 PM
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31. Heya my dear friend from Iowa!!
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 08:43 PM by Yael
You want to watch:

Allegheny County -- Pittsburgh -- west

Center County -- Penn State -- middle

Dauphin -- Harrisburg -- center south

Delaware, Chester, Lancaster, Burks and Montgomery -- Philly commuter counties. East, stretching to center

Philadelphia -- Philly -- south east

Lehigh -- Allentown/Bethlehem -- middle east

Those are the main population centers.

Map with hover results: http://www.nytimes.com/
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 09:09 PM
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55. Hey Yael!
How are ya?

Thanks for the NYTimes link. Very helpful.

This is exciting, isn't it?

I'll share my popcorn with ya...

:popcorn:
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:25 PM
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58. I am too tired to eat. If I sit real still, will you drop it into my mouth?
I KNOW you can appreciate.

What a day.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:35 PM
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23. LOL right on cue, MSNBC puts Claire McCaskill on. n/t
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:40 PM
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30. What did she say?
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:43 PM
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34. I turned the volume down when Tweety started bloviating.
But she liked the way Obama matches up against McCain and Tweety prattled on about Obama not using a populist message enough.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:42 PM
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32. "this is not over." Yes it is
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:44 PM
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35. Well, we must be at fuckstick level 9
Your goofy avatar is missing. I actually read your post!
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:45 PM
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37. For clinton, it is.
Which is awesome!

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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:42 PM
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33. CNN exists had a plus 60% for Obama in Philly burbs which are all outstanding
to be fair Lackawanna still mostly out for Clinton, she's got a lot of votes outstanding too.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:46 PM
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38. Thanks - if you can keep that optimism flowing
We'll take it!

I'm just hoping Obama can close the gap and loss by a small margin (4-6%) - that would be a HUGE moral victory.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:55 PM
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45. The NY Times map has 66% of Philadelphia in
and he's at 60% there. I don't get the Allegheny County results at all. But none of the Philadelphia suburbs have anything in yet.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:45 PM
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36. I'm laughing at the Hillary supporters right now
This is a tight race. Rendell's people are making sure Hillary's numbers come in quick. A lot of Obama's counties aren't even in yet.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:47 PM
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39. What are you looking at?
I believe you - but this political junkie would enjoy seeing the play by play action in O's counties.

Link?

Thanks :hi:
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Cal Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:51 PM
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43. New York Times has a good county breakdown map
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 08:52 PM by Cal Carpenter
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:54 PM
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44. Thanks
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:56 PM
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49. Great - thank you!
:hi:
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:49 PM
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40. Am I crazy? Three Hillary Clintons running against one Obama?
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 08:50 PM by Tatiana
http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/

Edit: OK, now it's just one Hillary.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:49 PM
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41. Well, it isn't looking so good for Obama now. Losing Pitt, some burbs lighting up for Clinton
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:51 PM
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42. Yeah, he needed to do better in Allegheny County. n/t
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:56 PM
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48. Lancaster, Montgomery, Chester still out at 0% reporting
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 08:57 PM by redstate_democrat
How are they still out, but Philly is in and Lakawana is in? Something seems strange about that.
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:55 PM
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47. What's your prognosis?
I remember following your MO thread on Super Tuesday night when you were the lone voice calling it for Obama, and he pulled it off with the urban vote late that night. Any chance of that happening here in PA, do you think?
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 09:01 PM
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50. I don't think so but I still think it was crazy to call it so early, now it would be reasonable
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 09:01 PM
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51. I'm with the OP--compare the CNN exit polls by zone (pg 2) with the percent reported....
34% of voters are from Philly and Philly suburbs, and they go to Obama 59-60%.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 09:06 PM
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52. It's over, he is even losing the Philly burbs
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 09:09 PM
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54. maybe penn had different demographics than missouri? n/t
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 09:07 PM
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53. So you are the guy. Me and my wife were talking about you early..
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 09:38 PM
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57. Delaware county turned in favor of Obama....
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