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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:32 PM
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Archangel Michael Moore's Miracle of the Loaves and Fishes
Edited on Fri Jun-25-04 10:51 PM by seventhson
I have no idea whether Michael Moore is a follower of Jesus or not.

But I do know one thing: Michael Moore's film is as much a modern day equivalent of THE Sermon on the Mount as the real Jesus is said to have given 2000 years ago and as real a miracle as the thing that Jesus reportedly did with the loaves and the fishes when he fed the masses and multitudes who were following him for wisdom and starving for the Truth (as well as for nourishment).

Michael Moore has delivered to us the perfect parable of good and evil, the perfect allegory for the blessedness of the peacemakers and the righteousness of the suffering of the innocents and the children and widows as well as the perfect symbols for the Dragon and the worshippers of filthy Lucre. The only thing is, that in Farenheit 9-11 the world's misery, as in the suffering of the Jews and gentiles under the Roman Caesars when Jesus preached, the parable is not fiction - it is reality.

The masses came to hear Jesus preach his Sermon on the Mount and were fed with the loaves and fishes during the days of great crisis in the Middle East as a foreign force had occupied and was oppressing the indigenous people (the Jews as well as the gentiles and Philistines) with a brutal and barbaric hell. Jesus' teachings (whether or not you believe he was the messiah or son of God) were about the RIGHTEOUSNESS of opposing evil and warmongering. The blessedness of waging peace instead of war. The beauty of love and goodness.

In the miracle of the loaves and fishes Jesus and his disciples are said to have taken five fish and seven loaves of bread and fed as many as 5000 people who had come to hear him preach the Hillelian peace message of the Torah and the Prophets and heal the sick. When all were fed and satisfied, there were bushels of pieces of bread and fish remaining.

His teachings were a universal lesson of love and redemption and the perils of following those who would harm the little children and pray on the innocent and profit from their greed and wickedness whilst holding themselves in the highest places and feasting with their surfeit of riches - self-righteous, vain and worshipful only of mammon and filthy lucre.

Like the warrior-like archangel for whom he is named, Michael Moore has delivered us with a miraculous thunderbolt of light in the abysmal darkness of the satanic-like realm of Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz and Rice. A beam of sheer brilliance enlightening the conditions of a Gehenna-like chasm of greed-induced torture and degradation and suffering.

As in the miracle of the loaves and fishes, the filmmaker has masterfully woven us baskets of truth which, after we all have fed on this knowledge, will leave bushels and bushels of knowledge left over for those who need to HEAR and KNOW these truths.

Some hearing Jesus speak for the first time, knowing only his reputation for blessedness and wisdom, surely must have wept and cried both tears of joy as well as tears of sadness and even fear: for the teaching was that the evil of man will cause much suffering - though only the Truth can comfort us and teach us that by staying the righteous course of peace and goodness and love can the serpent finally be overcome. The same must be said of Michael's film. We wept and we sobbed and we embraced and we comforted one another and even cried tears of joy at FINALLY hearing the truth (and in a humanly funny way).

The crumbs and pieces of truth overflow the brims of this multitude of baskets woven by Moore in this film and they will continue to nurture and comfort us as we face the great serpents in Washington.


I know that Michael Moore is not the Messiah. But he sure as hell has proven that he is the messenger of Truth and Love and Peace and , as such, is a righteous and blessed peacemaker who has forever changed the history of the world with his cautionary and brilliant tale tempered in the blazing fires of film ceation. Perhaps a Prophet in the tradition of Jeremiah and the others who warned us of the decadence of our kings and high priests of corruption and doom.Perhaps Micah or Malachi.

Just how do we BEAT these swords into plowshares and LOVE the strangers and homeless - the OTHERS?

In many ways today is a miraculous event. The teacher, the master, has fed us and taught us with knowledge which will surely change the world and the universe forever. America will NEVER be the same place after today because...

a prophet has spoken and the multitudes have listened.

In much the same way as Jesus did with his small sermon and his humble sharing of a communal dinner 2000 years ago. The world is a new place. A better place. A more holy place.

A place that looks just a LITTLE more like the paradise we know it was meant to be by our Creator.

Thanks Saint Michael! Thank you for being one fearless righteous voice in the wilderness!

Now, with your sword of Truth, we will slay the dragon (in November, that is, at the ballot box)!

Seventhson June 25, 2004

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:38 PM
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1. Know ye the Truth
and the Truth will set you free.

Ya Haqq! (Oh Truth!)
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:38 PM
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2. My Gawd, he's a big Catholic! n/t
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 12:47 PM
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8. MM is just plain "big"-- in more ways than one (n/t)
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lgardengate Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:42 PM
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3. OH, Brother!
I can't believe it! :crazy:

I now claim Elvis as my personal saint and guiding angel.:eyes:
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:13 PM
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6. nothing wrong with that, I guess
My pointr is that the world has been forever changed and so has america

THAT is a truly miraculous occurrence and should be acknowledged.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:48 PM
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4. I've always thought of him as more of a P.T. Barnum than a Christ-figure
...but whatever works for you.

I cant wait to see it.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 08:24 PM
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19. Jesus was a darn good showman
Christ, son of God, or whatever he was
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:56 PM
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5. You know, an artist uses freely--or should--based on what
he or she has.

Various interpretations will follow. And that's good!
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 12:51 AM
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7. thought i'd get more responses (pro or con)
oh well -- I worked hard on it anyway
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 03:09 PM
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13. It's well thought out...
Edited on Sat Jun-26-04 03:09 PM by Dr Fate
...bizzare, but I like it. As entertaining as any of your posts, and I mean that in the best possible way!
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 10:29 PM
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17. Thanks ! Bizzare?
Thanks anyway.

I tried to write something entertaining and thought provoking.


I just think this film has miracle written all over it.
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Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 01:09 PM
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9. I see him as more like a Moses
Leading the children of America into the promissed land of liberty, splitting the Red States, and with each documentary smacking Pharo Bushemhotep with another plague.

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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 01:35 PM
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10. thank you for your passion - for the movie and for holiness
michael moore definitely deserves so very much for making this movie and its not over the top to say that he has delivered a "sermon" (of sorts) that we all need to hear

i will say that after the movie, on the heels of the incredible emotion, my instinct was to do or volunteer whatever needed to stop this madness. but i have done that before and its taken its toll on me. so i am prepared to ask God what is best for me to do in response to this administration and this movie because if it was just up to me - look out!

there are those who are fired up and want to do something that will make things a little righter in this country and those who arent sure.

i respect everyone who went to see this film and i am so thankful we are (basically) free to see it!
thank you michael moore lets get out the vote!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 01:48 PM
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11. Hi faithnotgreed!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 02:15 PM
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12. thank you newyawker! very happy to be here! n/t
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 03:43 PM
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14. What you've written, seventhson...
reminds me of something I posted last night (to little response, but it had meaning for me). Disgusted by Cheney's crude remark to Senator Leahy, I chanced on a passage that I thought was a reminder of what can be said to a divided nation, of what we can be, and I hope might be again --

Lincoln's Second Inaugural:

"....I am loath to close. We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battlefield and patriot grave to every living heart and hearthstone all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature."
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 04:19 PM
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15. I think that once the thugs are imprisoned
our better angels can come out of hiding
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 08:03 PM
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16. I think he's the opposite of this
Moore doesn't want to be worshipped, or believed unthinkingly.

He wants people to think for themselves, not drink Kool-aid.

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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 07:50 AM
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18. Prophets are not always aware they are prophets
in the mystical traditions there are said to be at least 35 righteous persons alive on the planet at any moment in time.

If at any moment there becomes less than 35 then the earth will be destroyed.

Any of us might be that righteous person and if any of us fails to do what is righteous (or, rather, succumbs to evil) then we may be responsible for the destruction of humanity.

It is an esoteric teaching.

YOU, Cocoa, might be one of the righteous (not perfect, mind you, just righteous).

I would say Mr. Moore might be too. Whether he wants to be or not.


I think he might be.

It can be a burden at times and often it involves being willing to risk one's neck for the sake of humanity - which is a pretty accurate measure.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 05:15 PM
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20. Okay!!!
Last call.

No more comments on me comparing MM to Christ???


Jeez I thought there'd be more response - especially on the loaces and fishes analogy/

Maybe I am just too damn esoteric and weird, though.

I like calling him Saint Michael, though.

He's really almost the closest thing we've had to one since Mother Theresa as far as impact
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