Obama after losing last night's debate--badly: no more debates because I suck at them

[jackson_dem]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama on Thursday suggested he doesn't see any point in having another debate with Democratic rival Sen. Hillary Clinton.

Clinton has agreed to a debate next week, but Obama has not yet accepted the invitation.

At an appearance in Raleigh, North Carolina, Obama said he has a lot of campaigning to do in a limited amount of time.

Obama said he had agreed to an earlier debate, but Clinton declined that one.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/17/campaign.wrap/?iref=hpmostpop

His advisers must have told him he sucks at them and to bite the bullet and run from them...

[Saturday]

1. He's lost every one of them. He finally has learned his lesson? LOL nt

[BeyondGeography]

5. I don't know why he's still in the race

yadayadayada

[EV_Ares]

Now that is the most laughable post of the day when everyone is

trying to convince Hillary to get out as all she is doing is causing damage to the party.

Try going to MSNBC and their poll on the debate.

You really need to get out of that fantasy land you are living in.

[Ronnie]

56. Everyone?

That's a pretty big word.

[Yael]

12. Indeed. He should just drop out now.

:beer:

[proud2BlibKansan]

21. Was that a bitter comment, Yael?

:)

[Yael]

22. *snort*

Not me! I'm not butter!

[democracy1st]

31. debate

GIBSON: ABC News is pleased to sponsor the debate, along with the National Constitutional Center.

Guess who?

National Constitution Center Board of Trustees

NATIONAL HONORARY COMMITTEE
Mrs. George H.W. Bush
President & Mrs. Jimmy Carter
President William J. Clinton &
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
Mrs. Gerald R. Ford

CHAIRMAN
President George H.W. Bush

[Texas Hill Country]

2. what a total wimp.... we should all want a NC debate.

[Blondbostonian]

6. 24 debates

[jackson_dem]

11. And he has lost 21-22 of them and HE knows it even if his adoring fans don't...

[dchill]

73. Wow.

That explains why he is the front-runner.

[earthlover]

50. I would love a debate. We have had 21 NON-FRIGGIN-DEBATES!!!!

All we have had is basically an interview with dumb ass main stream media pundits who don't know their arse from a hole in the wall!

We listen to questions about lapel pins when our economy is in the tank, we are involved with two wars, our constitution is in peril and our health care system out of whack.

There was not a single question about health care last night. But a lot of time devoted to made in China lapel pins.

[greguganus]

3. Let It Sink

[jefferson_dem]

25. Let it stink...

Hannity and his freakshow would be proud of this one.

[jackson_dem]

28. Really? Hannity probably agrees with Obama. Remember Bush tried to do the same thing

[democracy1st]

34. debate

GIBSON: ABC News is pleased to sponsor the debate, along with the National Constitutional Center.

Guess who?

National Constitution Center Board of Trustees

NATIONAL HONORARY COMMITTEE
Mrs. George H.W. Bush
President & Mrs. Jimmy Carter
President William J. Clinton &
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
Mrs. Gerald R. Ford

CHAIRMAN
President George H.W. Bush

[PBS Poll-435]

52. Why do you keep copy/paste posting that?

You think that the illuminati on the National Honorary Committee made ABC ask right-wing/Ann Coulter questions?

[jackson_dem]

61. Wow, a bunch of former presidents and their wives are honorary trustees

Of the Constitution Center of all things? Come on. If O wins he and his wife will join that list.

[Lilith Velkor]

66. kick

[proud2BlibKansan]

4. Oh fun! I LOVE cherry picking!!

"I'll be honest with you, we've now had 21," he said. "It's not as if we don't know how to do these things. I could deliver Sen. Clinton's lines; she could, I'm sure, deliver mine."

and then there is this:

"Last night we set a new record because it took us 45 minutes before we even started talking -- until we started talking about a single issue that matters to the American people," he said.

oh and this too:

Clinton hasn't commented on the debate.

[Saturday]

10. She's not a whiner like Obama. nt

[jackson_dem]

13. Clinton has agreed to debate in NC. Obama? He wants to be coronated without answering questions

[proud2BlibKansan]

20. More cherry picking:

Obama said he had agreed to an earlier debate, but Clinton declined that one.

[catnhatnh]

37. Why do I get the feeling you're no Monty Python fan???

"It's only a flesh wound"....as the limbs fall away.

[Hawkeye-X]

7. Yet another idiotic thread

from a Hillbot who won't even look at Obama past his faults.

And also overanalyzed Obama so much that he completely misses the point.

Hawkeye-X

[anonymous171]

8. Fool me once...

[MoonRiver]

9. Bad Loserman.

:thumbsdown:

[jefferson_dem]

14. You just referred to last night's show as a "debate..."

Hahahahahah! :rofl:

[jackson_dem]

16. Why can't Obama handle taking tough questions?

Does he think he can be coronated with having to answering to his brief record and things that relate to who he is, particularly since his candidacy is based on words and personality?

[earthlover]

51. Obama did ok on the tough questions. Why didn's Hillary get any?

And it was not tough questions on issues. It was tough question on character assassination memes.

It is hard to be substantive when you are asked crap about a lapel pin and whether your minister is as patriotic as you....was Hillary asked about her lack of a lapel pin and whether her minister is patriotic?

She got mostly easy soft balls. Obama had to spend his time defending his character.

[jackson_dem]

62. Obama disagrees with his adoring fans. That is why he is scared of debating again

[BeatleBoot]

27. It was a debate. With some medium speed pitches thrown as Softballs

Proof positive he can't handle a fast pitch.

It's time to start to get real.

With him, it's all over.

[LisaM]

15. I just don't think he likes being questioned about things.

Now, bear with me, because I am trying to make this objective commentary. He loves the big rallies, I think he is in love with his image, but for whatever reason, he gets a certain level of discomfort when he is questioned on specifics, his motivations, whatever. I sympathize with this because I hate it too, but then again, I didn't choose to run for office. He seems to bristle a little when pressed.

I have no idea if Hillary likes it or not, but she has learned to take it on the chin and she has certainly been so scrutinized and questioned her whole career that these situations are probably second nature by now.

And, for the record, they haven't debated each other 24 times. They rose out of the pool after 20 debates had played out, but I think it's completely legitimate to ask for one-on-one debates as if it's a clean slate.

[BeatleBoot]

32. Lol! He picked the wrong profession then!

It's called "living in a fishbowl"

[democracy1st]

33. debate

GIBSON: ABC News is pleased to sponsor the debate, along with the National Constitutional Center.

Guess who?

National Constitution Center Board of Trustees

NATIONAL HONORARY COMMITTEE
Mrs. George H.W. Bush
President & Mrs. Jimmy Carter
President William J. Clinton &
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
Mrs. Gerald R. Ford

CHAIRMAN
President George H.W. Bush

[Solomon]

46. lol You're killing me!

:rofl:

[DemBones DemBones]

68. He loves talking to people who adore him. He hates answering hard questions.

He overestimates his own abilities.

He supports so-called free trade and other neo-con policies.

He's very cocky, has a smug smirk and massive ego.

He tells blatant lies.



REMIND YOU OF ANYBODY ELSE IN POLITICS???

[bowens43]

17. The only place he lost is in the twisted minds of the hillbots.

He has certainly kicked hillarys pathetic ass in the polling booth. America doesn't want the sleeze politics of hillary/rove/bush.

[depakid]

18. Would ANY rational person want to engage in more garbage like that?

Good on Obama.

If the Democrats have a lick of sense, they'll ensure that any future debates exclude the self-aggrandizing punditocracy.

Put them on PBS, and choose from the amazing amount of talent out there who run high school and college forensics programs.

And in the fall dare McCain (or ANY Republican) to show up on a neutral and incisive format.

[pinkpops]

19. That wern't no debate - it was a joint interview.

[democracy1st]

35. debate

GIBSON: ABC News is pleased to sponsor the debate, along with the National Constitutional Center.

Guess who?

National Constitution Center Board of Trustees

NATIONAL HONORARY COMMITTEE
Mrs. George H.W. Bush
President & Mrs. Jimmy Carter
President William J. Clinton &
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
Mrs. Gerald R. Ford

CHAIRMAN
President George H.W. Bush

[LisaM]

38. I absolutely agree with that. It's as if no one even knows what a debate is.

If they aren't being asked the exact same questions, with the same number of rebuttals, then it's not a debate. Not to mention, in a real debate, you don't FLIP A COIN to see who goes first (except perhaps the first time). There is a set order.

We would be far better served by real debates.

[BeatleBoot]

23. He should just do the "Rope-a-Dope" and run out the clock.

Stop debating all together.

[rgbecker]

24. Nobody should be allowed on National TV without Lapel Flag!

[kwenu]

26. The challenger is unworthy to occupy Obama's time anymore. Tell her to go home.

[jackson_dem]

29. Why don't we just ban elections and make the messiah chairman for life?

[kwenu]

39. No. That is the ONLY way Hillary is going to win the nomination. Obama has been freely chosen.

We don't want Hillary. Tell her to go back to the Senate.

[haymakeragain]

45. Why don't you

pitch a tent between my nuts and live there?

[PVnRT]

53. Help! Help! I'm being repressed!

I suggest leather gloves to haul that cross around.

[democracy1st]

36. debate

GIBSON: ABC News is pleased to sponsor the debate, along with the National Constitutional Center.

Guess who?

National Constitution Center Board of Trustees

NATIONAL HONORARY COMMITTEE
Mrs. George H.W. Bush
President & Mrs. Jimmy Carter
President William J. Clinton &
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
Mrs. Gerald R. Ford

CHAIRMAN
President George H.W. Bush

[cbayer]

40. From the DU rules:

Do not spam the message board by posting the same message repeatedly.

I know you are trying to make a point (a point that happens to be at the top of the greatest page and the home page) but that's a bit much.

[Ichingcarpenter]

30. He won't have to because Hillary will lose Pennsylvania

it will be over.

[DemBones DemBones]

76. If so, get ready for President McCain. Obama cannot win a general election.

He has divided the party and the country, with the help of the petty tyrant Howard Dean who, along with Donna Brazile, is trying desparately to throw the nomination to Obama.

Obama won red state primaries and caucuses, but can't win those states in the fall.

Dean thinks we Dems are like sheep and will all come home to the party but he is wrong. A lot of us will not vote for Obama, not because we are so in love with HRC we can't stand to see her lose, but because we think Obama would be a disaster as president.

Dean's insistence on deciding the nomination by July 1 is absurd. Dean is fighting against democracy.

[Heathen57]

78. Every time one of you post that

inane statement, I ask that you put up a post that has details on how you are telling the future. None of you have been able to come up with real reasons for your predictions.

Can you come up with something other than the rhetoric that you keep recycling?

[TML]

41. Get a real job

You spend way too much time on here NOT to be paid by HRC. How many pennies per post do you get paid?

[kmsarvis]

59. He has to be paid in I O Us

[merh]

42. Yeah sure

watch this

http://thinkprogress.org/attackerman/2008/04/17/you-gotta-get-get-that-that-dirt-off-your-shoulder/

[kikiek]

43. That's right! He knows he will lose. He is chicken.

[haymakeragain]

44. What a waste of a post, nice going. Hilly is done FYI, so pull thy head

from thine arse.

[bread_and_roses]

47. The last thing any winner would want would be another "debate"

If you win, you want that to be the image left in the populace's mind's eye. Because any politician knows that any such event is fraught with peril - no matter how good s/he is at it. That HRC is even suggesting it makes me think that she's not happy with the outcome.

[earthlover]

57. In Hillary's case, her campaign is broke, and a debate is free air time....

Best solution. A compromise. Since the PA debate had a Clinton aide as one of the panelists, along with a representative of the Disney Corporation....co-sponsored by a committee that Hillary herself is a member of....let's have a NC debate with Olberman and an Obama aide as panelists! Good for goose, good for gander?

[PresidentObama]

48. Do you ever post anything without lying, distorting or twisting Obama's words?

[Lucky 13]

49. GOTCHA!!

Great point, jackson_dem. We DO need more debates. We have lots more questions about flag pins and weatherunderground (which up until this week I thought was a weather web site). And I am learning so much more about the ISSUES... like heathcare....no wait... like trade...no wait....

Good one, jackson_dem!

[RBInMaine]

54. You are a JOKE !

[bigwillq]

55. There's no need for another debate

Enough is enough.

[nancyr]

58. These sideshows are not debates.

Golly, yes, next time why not have Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter do the inquisitioning?

[bigwillq]

60. Last night's was really bad

but the others were ok. I am not a bit surprised that people are so outraged. Obama's the front runner, and the front runner is always usually attacked. Last night was a bit excessive though.

[Gore1FL]

63. He did well enough

Hillary won't get the 75% of PA she needs.

[HuffleClaw]

64. wow, what a bad move

he should have said (literally) 'BRING IT ON!'

that at least would have been a nice little poke in bush's eye.

[StevieM]

65. Obama only accepts debaes in states where he trails in the polls (eom)

[GoldieAZ49]

67. Farrakhan, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Rezko

His judgement is not debatable it sucks

[OzarkDem]

69. They didn't bring up

past drug use, etc.

There's a lot more the GOP will throw at him.

[Moochy]

70. jackson_dem smokes quantity

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKJG0cXz0GI

[RiverStone]

71. jackson_dem, why not try a different tact?

Tell us why/how you think Hillary can still legitimately win the nomination and on what merits --- vs posting hit thread after hit thread on Obama.

We really know you don't like him - we got it.

Honestly, you (or I) are not changing any minds at this point.

I'd rather tell ya why Obama is going to win vs why Hillary is losing - but you have heard that already too (X 1000).

[BlooInBloo]

72. There IS no other tack to take.

[AtomicKitten]

74. He's winning. Your candidate is shit out of luck.

[Bensthename]

75. He IS the nominee. Why give the GOP more amo. She has lost, get over it already.

[Cali_Democrat]

77. Well if the media is going to ask him about flag pins made in China

Obama has every right to decline these absurd debates.