*********OFFICIAL DEBATE THREAD #3**********

[Tatiana]

It has become clear to me that the purpose of this "debate" is to bash Dems.

Thread #1:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5534858

Thread #2:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5535232

Edited to add:

ABC News Network Programming Feedback

http://abcnews.go.com/Site/page?id=3271346

[stop the bleeding]

1. present

:beer:

[Haole Girl]

2. Did she really say "...more sleep time"?

:rofl:

[ampad]

Yea she did

She is a damn liar and people saw her for all her glory with that sleep time comment.

[NightWatcher]

3. I wish they would hold hands and walk off the stage, this is a joke

[VenusRising]

11. I was just thinking that, too.

The politicians need to show the media they aren't going to willfully feed the 24 hours news cycle.

This is disgusting.

[tishaLA]

This disgusts me

Bosnia, Wright. Blah blah blah.

Obama keeps WANTING to get to the issues, but Charlie and George aren't playing. They want DIRT

[Tatiana]

44. It is totally disgusting and repulsive. n/t

[derby378]

4. To quote Flavor Flav...

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaoooooooooooooowwwwwwwwww!!

[Nitrogenica]

5. Stupid childish questions keep coming.

[high density]

6. Thank you OBAMA!!!

Let's get off this bullshit talk!

[Inspired]

7. When asked about an attack, I wish one of them would own it instead of backing down.

It would make my day.

[Inspired]

27. Why don't you wear the flag? How absurd. Who wears a flag in 'real life' anyway?

[MadBadger]

8. Obama is an amazing PERSON..Giving her a pass.

[TahitiNut]

THAT was exactly the right position to take, imho.

It's the "background noise" of a campaign - it'll ALWAYS be there - but if the candidate dwells almost solely on "gotcha politics" they're not EARNING a single vote.

[jazzjunkysue]

9. That's it, Barack. Redirect them Go for it. Applause.

[jazzjunkysue]

30. We're not learning anything here. This is so 7th grade.

Great job, ABC. Heck-uv-a-job. Really.

ABC: STFU.

[NDambi]

10. Obama gets applause..he's a class act

[Starbucks Anarchist]

12. Stupid twit with the flag-pin question.

:banghead:

[slick8790]

26. What a fucking mouthbreather.

Does he believe in the American flag? Fuck, it's not the easter bunny!

Pisses me off.

[peoli]

13. Obama dismisses HIS and Hillarys gaffes and hits a fucking home run

[NightWatcher]

14. flag lapel bullshit?????????????

[Ichingcarpenter]

15. His positives went into the 80s on that comment on the issues

[blonndee]

29. I saw that. Nice!

[oviedodem]

16. flag-gate are you kidding me!!!!!

[Joe the Revelator]

17. OH JESUS CHRIST, THE LAPEL FLAG THING??? SERIOUSLY??????????/

[blonndee]

18. Someone linked to online feed with undecided voter approval feedback

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/livemedia?section=news/politics&id=6083174

Obama WAY above midline (just now nearly up to 80), Hillary hardly got above it once and was well below it when discussing her Bosnia lies.

[babylonsister]

THANK YOU! REC'D. nt

[NightWatcher]

19. flag lapel bullshit?????????????

[Tatiana]

20. Question about whether Obama "believes in the flag."

I don't believe this shit.

Nationally televised advertisement for the GOP.

[Labors of Hercules]

36. COME ON YOU SONS OF BITCHES... STOP THIS BULLSHIT!!!

Flag? People are fucking DYING!!! PLEASE.

[high density]

LAPEL PINS!!@!!!!

This is simply amazingly bad.

[NDambi]

ABC tanked on this debate...goodness...

[michaz]

21. Now we are going to worship a pin!! n/t

[babylonsister]

34. Stoopid topic! How could anyone doubt his patriotism? nt

[tishaLA]

22. "It's all over the internet"

jesus christ.

[book_worm]

23. they both should insist that they start asking some real, policy questions or they'll walk off

and leave ABC with egg on their face.

[shadowknows69]

I agree this is a complete sham

But Hillary wouldn't walk, so far it's 70-30 against Obama.

[book_worm]

61. I have it the reverse

70-30 for Obama :)

[blogslut]

24. Well, I figured this ABC thing would be bad

But jesus, This debate is bullshit.

[babylonsister]

Hell, it's half over. Ridiculous! nt

[blue horseshoe]

46. It can only improve from here

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

25. K& REC!

[spanone]

28. THE FUCKING FLAG??????

[HereSince1628]

31. Flag buttons!!! WOW! THAT is a HUGH issue1111

What the hell is up with the producers at ABC?

[merh]

32. ABC is doing a shitty job

They take the wedge issues, the worst shit on the internet and pose questions based upon that crap and what us to believe this is a debate on the issues.

This is pathetic

[abbyg8r]

33. This debate is making me yearn for Russert as mod. n/t

[tishaLA]

it's depressing, huh?

[yourguide]

35. Glad George got his fox talking points together

what a shitty debate.

[TahitiNut]

71. Steph is a Clintonite ... never forget that. (They're Mommy and Poppy, in a political sense.)

At times, he panders to the point of licking up their urine drips ... and then (like all children) tries clumsily to show his individuation.

[ampad]

37. Look at Obama

ABC is a fucking joke talking about Bosnia gate and Wright ohh no now the fucking lapel pin. Fuck ABC.

[spanone]

38. worse moderated debate i have EVER seen

[muntrv]

39. ABC has it's lips pressed upon John McSame's buttocks.

[Submariner]

40. Draft dodging coward Gibson asking about flag?

This is a corporate Disney pile-on of Obama. ABC sux.

[ChicagoBurbsMale]

41. Lot of "uh" "ah" "hm"

WOW he looks rattled?

[high density]

47. Ignore this idiot

He seems to have found the wrong forum.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

63. He's another RememberWellstone

Tries to fly under the radar during the debate.

[babylonsister]

He does not. You're tripping. nt

[high density]

42. I hope the rest of the media rips ABC for this poor "debate"

But they're all in a circle jerk so I guess that's stupid of me to expect that.

[aaronbees]

43. "There is no other country where my story is even possible"

Rock on, Barack. :patriot:

This line of questioning though is idiotic.

[McCamy Taylor]

45. I think the debate is good for both of them, it lets them explain the bad press

and put their spin on the negative stories

[spanone]

48. absolutely correct manufactured issue shame on abc

[stop the bleeding]

49. GS needs to beat it

:beer:

[michaz]

50. Are the damn pins even made in the US?

[rainbow4321]

51. If he DID wear one, it would be "who has the BIGGER flag pin" n/t

[NDambi]

52. Oh Georgie is playing the role of Sean Hannity tonight

[tishaLA]

68. He has LITERALLY asked 2 Hannity questions!

[Joe the Revelator]

53. WEATHER UNDERGROUND---- This is Hannity's question

[tishaLA]

54. The live viewer response goes WAY up

when he says "can't we just talk about the issues?"

[Inspired]

55. Why is Obama getting all of the hardballs? He's doing OK with them but still........

[NDambi]

67. The deck is stacked...against Obama

[Inspired]

72. Great response Barack! It's bullshit.

[Inspired]

83. OK bullshit Hillary. You are married to a cheating husband....what does that say about you?

I'm getting pissed.

[Inspired]

106. Call her out Barack. She deserved that one big time.

[oviedodem]

56. Ayers-Gate HOLY SHIT!!!

[shadowknows69]

62. This is an assasination attempt, nothing less

[NDambi]

74. Yep...it's a set up.

[blonndee]

64. I hope he mentions the pardon

[Tatiana]

135. She sure did! n/t

[babylonsister]

65. THAT was inspired by Hannity, from an earlier thread I read. Ugh. nt

[blonndee]

Obama's answer on Ayers high approval with undecideds 70s, near 80

[anonymous171]

57. OMG HE'S TALKING ABOUT AYERS! HANNITY TOLD HIM TO DO THAT!

[ChicagoBurbsMale]

73. and he cant answer it LMAO

He lives down the street?

LMAO

[blonndee]

142. Oh, he answered it all right! LOL and with approvals between 60 and 70.

[Emit]

197. And at that very moment my neighbor knocks and I missed it

Who asked the question? Did George ask it?

Damn, I'm gonna have to find a re-run so I can watch this

[MadBadger]

58. I wanna turn this off, Taking Questions from HANNNITTTY

[anonymous171]

Fuck steph I hope this gets him fired from whatever he does.

[spanone]

59. these are absolutely the worse fucking questions i have ever heard

[DerekJ]

60. Oh - FUCK ME TERRORRRRRIIISST ALEERRTTT

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

66. BAD Audience! Clapping with Obama talking. nt

[cornermouse]

69. lololololololololololololol

[babylonsister]

70. Bringing up Coburn; GREAT answer! nt

[VenusRising]

75. WTF ABC?!?!

This is total bullshit.

45 minutes and still no issues.

[Tatiana]

76. Obama FREAKING PWNS Georgieboy! n/t

[CherokeeDem]

111. He Shoots...He Scores!!!!

Way to go, Barack!!!!

[oviedodem]

77. Hilliary is truly evil

[The Doctor.]

88. she's talking about serving on 'boards' now!

Oh... Obama hit it!

[Colobo]

89. Hillary is a snake.

[AlinPA]

154. A silent viper.

[The Doctor.]

78. dangerous territory Hillary!

[Life Long Dem]

79. Well lets talk about Walmart

[NJSecularist]

80. Hillary.. are you fucking joking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You slimeball!

[spanone]

81. i'm outta here....FUCK THIS

[tishaLA]

82. Oh GOD! Now Hillary is going to DEFEND the Ayers bullshit

OMFG

[NDambi]

84. OMG this is a fucking set up...unreal

[Joe the Revelator]

Exactly. It is a set up. I just created a thread about it

Set up pure and simple.

[yourguide]

85. OMG FUCK CLINTON

Now she brings up serving on a board with weather underground dude.

[Hazelrah]

86. my god, I think I miss tweety.

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[Political Heretic]

99. Man, chill out - step away from the computer and stop being exactly like people we critcize.

:(

[bullwinkle428]

117. Word - post recommended!

[babylonsister]

87. Bring up all those folks big dawg pardoned who killed people, wouldya?

So Hill could run? :eyes:

[edhopper]

90. I can't believe

Hilary is this desperate.

[abbyg8r]

91. Oh lord please help me. I want to say that I will vote for her if she is the nominee

but she makes it so hard.

[RiverStone]

128. Don't worry, she will never be the nominee!

[pdxmom]

93. Clinton is feeding every singly RW talking point. This has been a total

smear job by ABC/HRC. Obama refuses to take part in the few attempts at smearing that have been half-heartedly thrown out there.

[tishaLA]

I'm sorry but she's really overstepped now

I am as disgusted by her as I am by Charlie and George

[global1]

94. Did ABC And Hillary Rehearse This Debate......

she is just shoveling the manure here. She is so disingenuous and contentious. I don't want a person like this in the White House.

[crankychatter]

148. yes.... it's a set up 100% - I can only pray the American People see through this crap

.

[Armstead]

GODDAMN YOU HILLARY CLINTON

Smack her down for her rubbing the Ayers crap

[GoesTo11]

95. History will remember this debate as the death of the American press

[Hepburn]

96. Fuck you, Hillary and your MEGA bullshit Ayers comments

Rot in hell....:grr:

[TahitiNut]

121. It sure smells like George and the Clinton camp COORDINATED on the 'issues'

Smells.

[NDambi]

97. Omg...this is fucking hilarious!! LOL the Pardons

[Starbucks Anarchist]

103. I loved it.

:rofl:

[aaronbees]

98. Hillary is a soulless cretin to push the Ayers shit

[The Doctor.]

100. BOOM!

[derby378]

101. Hillary: Repukes should "apologize" and "not run anybody"

Okay, but what about in this universe? :shrug:

[rainbow4321]

102. Damn she makes that little green line DROP fast

On the undecided focus group..soon as she started talking more about Ayers it bottomed out to 50


http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/livemedia?section=news/politics&id=6083174

[stop the bleeding]

104. uh oh - pardoned - he keeps knocking them all out of the park

:beer:

[DUyellow]

105. This debate is a hit job

[NDambi]

115. Yes it is..but he's knocking them down like bowling pins...lol

[Yael]

107. HRC -- BO and Ayers are BFF. LOL!!

[NDambi]

108. Slammed on the Pardons...good one Obama...what a fucking two headed snake she is

[anonymous171]

109. He just brought up the pardons! OMG she's fucked.

[blonndee]

110. The pardon!!!! OMG! He DID mention it....holy shit!

[The Doctor.]

113. BOOM!

[jenmito]

114. When it comes to vetting, I don't think she'd make it!"

[aaronbees]

123. That was a beautiful line

And absolutely true.

[jenmito]

139. IN HER FACE! And he got applause!

[aaronbees]

152. Hell yeah he did!!

He deserved it too - he's gotten a smattering of applause at a few points tonight. Good!

[Lisa0825]

129. I scared the hell outta my cats when he said that, because I yelled

and punched the air! :rofl:

[CherokeeDem]

Me, too!!! LOL

Both kitties took off running!!!!

[csorman]

192. One of mine is screameowing in the other room, due to my yelling. Poor kitty!

[jenmito]

146. It was worth it!

In my opinion. :D

[Colobo]

116. She chose not to respond!

[stop the bleeding]

smartest choice she has made in a while

:beer:

[jenmito]

126. And that's because she had NO explanation! BAM!

[eleny]

132. C'mon, Hillary - Talk to us about those pardons

[Phoonzang]

112. Wow he's fucking pissed.

I wouldn't be able to hold back if I were him

[The Doctor.]

118. He's very collected.

[SaveAmerica]

188. The kind of president we are desperate for...

[Labors of Hercules]

120. I wish he'd stop holding back.

He needs to take the fucking gloves off.

[shadowknows69]

119. Gibson just said they give Clinton more time because she's getting short changed?

That's because it's been a non-stop attack on Barack.

[The Doctor.]

125. Yep. Let's see if they bring up Columbia

[myrna minx]

143. Why bring up Clinton conflicts of interest with the Colombia trade deals,

when you can ask loaded questions about lapel pins? :puke: This is just pathetic.

[myrna minx]

122. Hillary is taking every opportunity to trash Obama, but when he had his

opportunity to make political hay out of the Bosnia affair, he didn't. He showed his class, and she showed that she's an opportunist. THis "debate" is nothing but an ambush of Obama and T-ball for Clinton. 47 minutes of Wright, Weather Underground and lapel pins. :puke:

[anonymous171]

140. rope-a-dope. She's swinging too wide and he's hitting her where it hurts.

[myrna minx]

155. Her raised eyed smugness is just too thick.

[Armstead]

124. I hope Obama brought along his snake bite kit cause he's on stage with a rattlesnake

[AlinPA]

173. That snake is loaded with poison.

[Radical Activist]

127. The media have been trivializing the entire primary.

THEY are the problem.

[Wise Child]

130. Halfway through and it's crap,

I can't believe I'm wasting a DVD+R on this.

[edhopper]

138. I'm glad our country isn't facing

ANY OTHER FUCKING PROBLEMS so we can talk about flag pins!!!

[Annces]

131. Clinton really playing games n/t

[grantcart]

133. for those that are watching TV the link on internet has a reaction line

and the reaction to Obama is much higher than Clinton

sometimes clinton's line just plummets.

[DUyellow]

169. do you have a link to this?

[Colobo]

134. Hillary is acting like a Republican snake. She's pathetic.

[panAmerican]

136. OBAMA SAID BILL CLINTON PARDONED 2 WEATHER UNDERGROUND MEMBERS!!!!!!!!!!!

HA!!!!!!!!!!!! No wonder she didn't mind going on a commercial break!!!!!!!!

[global1]

137. Next Question After The Commercial - Senator Obama Your Wife Said She Was Not Proud As...

an American until now........

What else are they going to throw at this him. I have to applaud him for his self control and his sharp responses.

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[grantcart]

144. 42 minutes and not one sensible question

[uponit7771]

153. RIGHT!! WTF?!!?!

[Yael]

145. HRC's hit ad is playing now (Philly ABC)

[grantcart]

149. good its going to piss people off

[TK421]

147. OK...back on

[crispini]

150. Here is my email to ABC

I am complaining about the idiotic moderating of John Gibson and George S. in the recent debate. What a pair of poo-flinging monkeys. Dimwitted dillweeds! I can't believe they wasted 40 minutes talking about all of the non-issues and all of the horseshit that passes for dialog today. WHY NOT TALK ABOUT THE FACTS? WHY NOT TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES? What a disgraceful performance. SHAME ON YOU, ABC. SHAME ON YOU.

I called my local affiliate but their mailbox was full.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

160. LOL! Poo-flinging monkeys, dimwitted dillweeds!

I couldn't have said it better myself! :rofl:


Good email!

[babylonsister]

165. Charlie Gibson. nt

[crispini]

184. LOL, well, thanks. I was a little overheated at the time. :) nt.

[Joe the Revelator]

151. Another fluff question for Hillary

Awesome

[Yael]

156. Get us out of Iraq question. FINALLY

[Joe the Revelator]

162. Obama: "Is it true that you hate our troops? Thats what the internets say"

[Adelante]

157. I used the Feedback form in the OP to complain nt

[godai]

Likewise....everyone should send an email. This is disgraceful n/t

[GoesTo11]

158. Now for the fake tough questions for Hillary

[Tatiana]

159. FIFTY-THREE fucking minutes into this "debate" and we get a question about Iraq troop withdrawal.

Unreal.

[babylonsister]

161. She had the balls to mention moving the goal posts? Bwhahaha! nt

[VenusRising]

175. She knows how to do that well.

[panAmerican]

186. lol, that's what I said! She knows all about it

[grantcart]

163. regardless of any facts - she just walked into a trap

[crankychatter]

164. I propose a national boycott of ABC

at minimum

I FEEL like going "weatherman" on their ass

[knixphan]

167. gladly

[jenmito]

193. Don't worry. It's making Obama look better and better with every "tough" question.

[anonymous171]

166. Finally, issues,.

[spanone]

abc taking the bu$h* view on iraq....i'm shocked i tell ya

[Why Syzygy]

168. I doubt her sincerity.

and ability.

[crispini]

170. Thank GOD, an issue.

Withdraw from Iraq. Right on!

[grantcart]

171. she is wander and weak

[OzarkDem]

172. She gets good audience approval on Iraq answer

She's very strong on this issue, her confidence and understanding of needs of military and the public gets her very good scores.

[Why Syzygy]

179. what are you watching?

[blonndee]

198. Here's the link (thanks to whomever provided it to me)

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/livemedia?section=news/politics&id=6083174

[Zhade]

203. You're replying to someone who denies the video evidence that proves clinton lied about Tuzla.

Waste of time.

[uponit7771]

185. link? thx

[panAmerican]

174. Excellent reply from Hillary about withdrawing the troops!

[uponit7771]

180. Yeap, ...good answer, I just don't believe her

[uponit7771]

176. WOW, they're talking about an issue!!

[high density]

177. President sets the mission!!!

Heck yeah, what a good response!!!

[spanone]

178. great answer obama....the PRESIDENT sets the policy...wake up charlie

[Tatiana]

181. Obama nails Bush on saying "well, I'm just listening to what the generals say."

The President sets the mission. He will listen to the generals with respect to tactics.

"The buck stops with me as Commander-in-Chief."

[Yael]

182. Obama on Iraq, "I am strategy and they (military) are tactics. AWESOME!!

[Hepburn]

183. OMG....he OWNED the question on Iraq!

[Windy]

191. what was the audience reaction to the question on Iraq and Obama's answer??? nt

[OzarkDem]

187. Obama doesn't score well on Iraq

not as good as Clinton. I sense voters aren't as sure of his ability to handle the job. He's vulnerable on this issue w/ voters.

[shadowknows69]

194. Bullshit

[uponit7771]

195. She might have the benefit of exposure but who can believe her? She's not very honest

[blonndee]

196. LOL! Yeah, a steady 70 approval on POLICY, not meaningless soundbites. Not "strong" at all. LOL

[high density]

199. I see ignore lists have stopped working

That's too bad.

[Hepburn]

200. Fling your stupid BS lies elsewhere...your one-note tune is old.

[OzarkDem]

202. Watch the audience response graph

Just reporting what the audience says.

[Teaser]

201. FAIL

.

[Political Heretic]

205. You:

[anonymous171]

189. ISRAEL! WTF!?

[VenusRising]

190. Link the Thread #4

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5536557

[Chisox08]

204. Worst. Debate. Ever.

I had to turn it off in fear of losing even more brain cells.