For those who claim Clinton's ad is not right out of the right wing playbook

[democrattotheend]

Remember this ad from 2004? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzVBdJ3ZSdw

Paid for by the group Citizens United, the 30-second message calls Kerry "another rich liberal elitist from Massachusetts who claims he's a man of the people."

It's the kind of thing I would expect from the Republicans, but http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Clinton_Pennsylvania.html">coming from a Democrat it's absolutely despicable. I have never called for Clinton to drop out of the race, I have said that I will vote for her if she is the nominee, and I have defended her when I thought fellow Obama supporters crossed the line. But running an ad against Obama in a swing state that Kerry won by less than 3% that plays right into the Republican attack narrative that, as she herself said, has sunk 2 good candidates in the past 2 elections is absolutely despicable, and she is really testing my resolve to support her no matter what if she gets the nomination. I think the remaining superdelegates should get together and warn Clinton that they will endorse Obama en masse tomorrow if she does not get this trash off the airwaves.

[democrattotheend]

1. No comment?

[AZBlue]

2. I'm just flabbergasted by her behavior and each act is more despicable than the last.

Your idea of SD's coming together is a good one.

[democrattotheend]

5. I've been opposed to a massive push to get her to drop out

And I still am. But I think they should use the threat of a "superdelegate bomb" to get her to remove that right wing trash from the air. Kind of like on West Wing, when Bartlett told the 2 presidential candidates that if one of them stepped over the line he'd grab a microphone and call them out on it and just might endorse the other one while he was at it.

[JimGinPA]

3. I Flip-Flopped...

I said I would NEVER vote for her, then I wavered and said I would hold my nose if she won, but now I don't think she CAN win. If she manages to steal the nomination somehow I dn't know what I'll do.

[democrattotheend]

7. Suck it up and vote for her, I hope

She's still better than McCain. But it will be a bitter pill to swallow (no pun intended). I feel like I am going to have a tougher time getting motivated to volunteer for her if she wins the nomination by destroying a candidate I respect and admire.

[AlinPA]

14. That's where I am, but my wife just asked me what the difference is between McCain

and Clinton, because she is so pissed at her for the last negative TV ad in PA on the "bitter" stuff.

[Yael]

4. She is low on cash

I am guessing she is taking out RNC loans at this point -- and those are with "reusable in November" strings attached.

[Two Americas]

6. some egos are wounded, that is all

The party does have a problem with this, or the right wing talking points would not be so effective.

Don't force Obama into this corner. The professor image that appeals to the progressive base is a handicap going into the general. That is just the way it is. We can face that and overcome it, or play games about it. Don't defend it, don't celebrate it - it is an Achilles' heel. Obama needs to get out of the bubble and do what RFK did in 1968. Go to the poor neighborhoods and make himself available and listen to people and forget about the progressive base and pleasing them. Speak out for the poor and left behind and give them something to vote for, rather than analyzing them, or worse yet saying to hell with them we don't need them, as I see many Obama supporters saying today. He would do that if he knew we would support him in that. We have 60-80% support from the public on every true political issue - economics, power and justice. Forget about guns and religion - those are not political issues, they are phony issues inserted into politics by the right wingers, and we get suckered into a losing position on those every time.

So what if he is an elite? So were FDR and JFK. It need not hurt us, but it WILL hurt us if we keep going down the path we are going now.

Forget Clinton and endlessly bashing her. That doesn't get us anywhere. Obama is never going to be a "regular guy" but he sure as Hell could be a strong advocate for the regular folk out there, if we let him and if we have his back. If, on the other hand, we get all bent out of shape about this and try to fight the culture wars and force Obama to please us at every turn, we will be toast.

The disaffected voters of Pennsylvania and rural areas around the country are the result of the failures of the Democratic party - that is the truth that needs to be spoken. That is a lot more difficult to do - looking in the mirror - then it is to look over there and debate what is wrong with "them."

[uponit7771]

8. Only freepers are supporting Hillary at this point

[nebula]

9. Hillary's playbook has received glowing endorsements

from Karl Rove, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, John McCain, etc.

[smiley_glad_hands]

10. K & R. eom

[PA Democrat]

11. Sorry, dupe.

[PA Democrat]

12. Hillary's campaign has been running this ad non-stop in western PA.

Hillary is creating a LOT of ill will among the party's movers and shakers in this county. People that she would need if she somehow managed to get the nomination. I just don't see people volunteering to work for her in the fall if she "wins" using these tactics. I supported Edwards in 2004, but volunteered for the Kerry campaign in the general election. I would vote for Hillary if she is the nominee, but I would never volunteer for her. I don't want to be personally associated with that type of campaign.

[democrattotheend]

15. So do you think it will resonate, or backfire?

What are you hearing in your neck of the woods?

[PA Democrat]

16. People who are already decided aren't going to change their vote over it,

I think it may influence some percentage of the undecideds, not sure how many. Most of the people I talk to have been committed to one candidate or the other for some time now. But what has surprised me is how many people are upset by how Hillary has run her campaign, even several Hillary supporters.

[taterguy]

13. Describing a political tactic as coming from a "playbook" is something only right wingers do

Football is a fascist sport.

More democratic sports like basketball don't have playbooks.