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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:18 PM
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Who Are Hillary and Bill Pandering to Now with the 'I'm Not Bitter' Campaign?
I mean, really. Isn't it quite apparent that folks have been bitter for at least the last 8 years under Bush & Co. and so desperately wanting of change? Suddenly now everything is all hunky-dory? Who is she trying to appeal to? Serious question. I'd really like to know.

Are true progressives buying this crap she's peddling? Or is this just part of her 'Third Way' approach? Speaking of which, it seems we may as well have a three party race right here and now, because I don't see her supporting the Democratic base with this message or her triangulating actions on the campaign trail. She's abandoned the base and is pandering to some other constituency, IMHO.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:26 PM
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1. I have no idea. I'm still trying to figure out ...
who she was pandering to when she slammed back a shot of whiskey. :shrug:
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:30 PM
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5. PA likes to drink.
She is doing anything for a vote. It's gotten embarrassing. I really think that they don't know what they're doing.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:34 PM
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7. Maybe she thinks this is her last chance to knock Obama off and they just decided to
go nuclear with it to see if it would stick? :shrug: Kind of like a cornered cat.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:59 AM
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25. They are clearly pandering to
the hemorrhoids on each others assholes.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:29 PM
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2. voters n/t
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:29 PM
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3. Superdelegates.
:shrug:
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:35 PM
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9. By George, I think you've got it. That's the real audience for this non issue.
Superdelegates above all want a winner. The only way she can win is to somehow persuade the superdelagates that Obama's a loser. There's no better way to do that than to declare him another Kerry or worse yet Dukakis.

The fact that the Republicans are falling all over themselves to agree tells you something. What Democrat in his or her right mind would agree with the likes of Joe Scarborough or Pat Buchanan?
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:43 PM
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11. "What Democrat in his or her right mind..."
Indeed. Some folks around here need to buy a clue.
:hi:
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CatsDogsBabies Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:29 PM
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4. No idea
I don't get where the controversy is and I can't imagine that people are really thinking about this that much.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:32 PM
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6. Exactly! I have been thinking the exact same thing.
Most voters are going to be thinking "You bet your ass I am bitter after 8 years of the worst president in American History".

I just don't know why they think that is going to resonate with other than Bush supporters? I think it shows she is out of touch with Democrats and our frustrations.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:35 PM
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8. Bush supporters?
They are probably the only Americans who are not bitter, so it must be them.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:57 PM
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14. What is that, 26% of the electorate
and 26% who have been told by Fox Noos that Hillary and Bill are evil incarnate. What gives? What the fuck is wrong with her? She can't even call herself a liberal. Remember that from one of the debates? God forbid she represent her base.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:37 PM
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10. It's like they are auditioning in front of a mirror. Completely irretrievably tone deaf.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:44 PM
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12. With regard to the past 8 years - we should all be talking about being bitter!

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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:55 PM
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13. God you Obamatrons are hopeless today. VOCABULARY FACT: "Bitter" is NEVER good.
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 08:55 PM by smalll
At least when applied to people (rather than foods) "bitter" is NEVER a "good thing."

Some words are positive, some are neutral, and some are negative. Many words can share positive and negative aspects. But BITTER NEVER DOES.

You can call people angry, irate, nonplussed, or enraged. You can even call them upset, disconcerted, untrusting, irritated or annoyed and NOT imply some negative value-judgement about them. "Bitter" is not like that. It is a 100% negative word. It's like calling someone "unhinged" "hysterical" "curdled" or "dessicated."

HONEST ADVICE TO OBAMA SUPPORTERS: STOP TRYING TO CLAIM "BITTER" FOR YOURSELVES AND ACCEPT THAT OBAMA IS HUMAN AND THEREFORE IMPERFECT.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:00 PM
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17. I had absoulutely no idea there was a moratorium on the word "bitter"
Thank you so much, smalll with three l's for enlightening us on the matter. Is that something Hillary has taught you, or did you pick that one up on your own?
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:58 PM
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15. They're pandering to an imaginary, stereotypical Demographic that only exists...
In the mind of Penn
They're clueless
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:00 PM
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16. Oh....that Demographic exists......it just happens to be the
ones that even Rendell knows votes GOP....and they ain't about to start voting for a Clinton.

That's why she's clueless.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:42 PM
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19. lol... omg we lost the assault rifle toting, fundamentalist, xenophobe vote
the sky is falling

yup... you're right

I was thinking, on the left again
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:02 PM
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20. The ones that hold the Clintons in such high regard
and love us librals. Yup.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:02 PM
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18. Hillary claims she is the candidate of change but
but then goes after voters who aren't bitter about how things are. If those voters think there is no reason to be bitter than who does she want claim to appeal to. :shrug: I don't get it.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:08 PM
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21. Hell, she gonna make us want to change
party affiliation to Independent....which is something I am now considering.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:27 PM
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22. My SO just changed from Repug to Democrat in order to vote for Edwards or Obama
and now, if Hillary eeks out this win by hook or crook, the only way she can, IOW, my SO is going Independent.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:41 AM
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24. I'm considering it myself
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 01:44 AM by Raine
if Hillary destroys the party and gets the nomination, cause the party won't be worth shit. x(

Edit: added word
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:55 AM
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23. Bitter DLC
:D


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IamyourTVandIownyou Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:59 AM
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26. She forgot she was in a Dem Primary Race
..pandering to the right like she's in the GE already.

Bad mistake to amplify this story, by whomever the new Chief Stategist is now, imho.

This will cost her big amongst PA (Dems).


She knows better.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 04:10 AM
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27. I don't know. But...
I know it's not me. Maybe she is pandering to big business. What happened to jobs, health care, the Iraq war, the economy, home foreclosures, student loans, and the list goes on to feel angry over? We need someone like Obama who owes nothing to big business.
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